CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)OP upd 28/03

Boggles · 27-03-2020 11:56AM

Looptheloop30 wrote: »

I've seen this episode before

He dies in the end, then he comes back, then he fúcks off again.

Tippex · 27-03-2020 11:56AM

hotmail.com wrote: »

Is the mass on RTE News Now a repeat? It seems almost identical to all the other days.

Not a post I ever expected to see on boards

Xertz · 27-03-2020 11:56AM

beolight wrote: »

In the absence of a protocol they need to take responsibility themselves
PPE needs to be worn if not provided demand it

Leo didn’t really elaborate on cocooning for it to work the health care staff also needs to be cocooned

Kerry25x wrote: »

Exactly. Even if she sanitised and changed gloves in front of you, you're obviously going to treat the money as dirty regardless.

Wearing gloves to handle cash is for the person behind the counter’s protection, not the customer.

You should treat all cash as potentially dirty.

AtomicHorror · 27-03-2020 11:56AM

BKtje wrote: »

Well if you come out as positive then at least you know you have it but a negative means nothing.

No that's not correct. There's a % rate of false positives and a % rate of false negatives. Positive and negative results are both absolutely meaningful, they're just not certain.

I don't know the error rates for the test we do here, maybe someone has a link.

hotmail.com · 27-03-2020 11:57AM

Boggles wrote: »

He dies in the end, then he comes back, then he fúcks off again.

Spoiler alert!

BKtje · 27-03-2020 11:57AM

voluntary wrote: »

And they guarantee no false-positives? I didn't see anything about that.

Honestly i don't know as I guess that depends on the kit itself.
I do know that the lab testing which was 60-70% effective (and now up to 86% if what a previous poster says is accurate) that they didn't give false positives. The substance can't react with something that isn't there so I would be of the belief that the quick tests work similarly.

If they do give false positives and false negatives at such a high rate then they really are useless!

Edit: I guess ignore what I say as AtomicHorror has corrected me. Guess I misunderstood what I read and saw.

Kermit.de.frog · 27-03-2020 11:58AM

eagle eye wrote: »

Not for me. As soon as this is all over I'll be back to cash.
If you could trust that everything you do wasn't being tracked and used I'd have no problem with a cashless society but that'll never be the case.

Cash is going to be taken out of circulation and wont be legal tender eventually.

It's not like there is going to be a choice.

Think of all the benefits. A lot of money theft gone, drugs trade ended overnight, improved health etc etc

The benefits are huge.

mick987 · 27-03-2020 11:58AM

tobefrank321 wrote: »

How many doors were welded shut?

Do you think every door in a city of 8 million was welded shut?

Any proof to back up that assessment if so?

Why have 20 million chinese stopped using their mobile phones since January?

GolfNut33 · 27-03-2020 11:58AM

4Ad wrote: »

My brother just went to pick up my Dads pension, the post office worker was wearing NO gloves handling cash, my brother was wearing gloves and asked her to put money into a freezer bag he provided.
Ridiculous esp as she is dealing with older people..

What difference would gloves have made? their hands would still be passing on any viruses regardless of gloves or not

shocksy · 27-03-2020 11:59AM

Spain early figures are +4,858 new cases and +769 new deaths in the past 24 hours

SteelyDanJalapeno · 27-03-2020 12:01PM

Looptheloop30 wrote: »

I'm Fergal Bowers.....

I'm going on a civil service work email. One granted where they've dated it as Thurs 27th March so make off that what you will

I haven't seen it anywhere else mind

No

I'm Fergal Bowers

mouldybiscuits · 27-03-2020 12:01PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Cash is going to be taken out of circulation and wont be legal tender eventually.

It's not like there is going to be a choice.

Think of all the benefits. A lot of money theft gone, drugs trade ended overnight, improved health etc etc

The benefits are huge.

The risks are also huge. Banks and governments will have absolute authority over our livelihoods. It would push us further towards a 1984 type world. We can't keep increasing government control over our lives every time something new happens. I'll always be against the outlawing of cash as legal tender

Tacitus Kilgore · 27-03-2020 12:02PM

hotmail.com wrote: »

Is the mass on RTE News Now a repeat? It seems almost identical to all the other days.

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stephenjmcd · 27-03-2020 12:03PM

4Ad wrote: »

My brother just went to pick up my Dads pension, the post office worker was wearing NO gloves handling cash, my brother was wearing gloves and asked her to put money into a freezer bag he provided.
Ridiculous esp as she is dealing with older people..

Wearing gloves is not in the current guidelines. If anything it aids the spread of virus. Frequent hand hygiene is much more effective.

is_that_so · 27-03-2020 12:04PM

Xertz wrote: »

Wearing gloves to handle cash is for the person behind the counter’s protection, not the customer.

It is until they reach up to rub their nose!

Fr_Dougal · 27-03-2020 12:05PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

1,049 new cases in Belguim and 69 new deaths. I think that's the highest for them so far in a day.

If people in Ireland don’t cop on we could be looking at similar figures. We’re the second most globalised country in the world, and we have many EMEA HQ.

Rob A. Bank · 27-03-2020 12:05PM

fits wrote: »

Article from New York Times about Bergamo.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/03/27/world/europe/coronavirus-italy-bergamo.html?referringSource=articleShare

That was a shocking read.

Maybe our fate too, if the containment measures do not work.

voluntary · 27-03-2020 12:05PM

shocksy wrote: »

Spain early figures are +4,858 new cases and +769 new deaths in the past 24 hours

Spain is the NEW ITALY. The questions is: what will be the NEW SPAIN.

BKtje · 27-03-2020 12:06PM

AtomicHorror wrote: »

No that's not correct. There's a % rate of false positives and a % rate of false negatives. Positive and negative results are both absolutely meaningful, they're just not certain.

I don't know the error rates for the test we do here, maybe someone has a link.

Would you have a source on this regarding the false positives? I can't find any literature about it (after a quick google) with regards to the coronavirus. I do know that false positives exist but I was under the impression that this was a relatively tiny amount and thus not really something to worry too much about in this case during a pandemic.

I'll keep searching in the mean time.

Thanks

Peruvian Flake · 27-03-2020 12:07PM

voluntary wrote: »

Spain is the NEW ITALY. The questions is: what will be the NEW SPAIN.

Holland possibly.

Cody montana · 27-03-2020 12:07PM

voluntary wrote: »

Spain is the NEW ITALY. The questions is: what will be the NEW SPAIN.

U.K.?

eagle eye · 27-03-2020 12:07PM

DubInMeath wrote:

OK beginning to understand the trump love now.

Trump love? I despise the man.

fits · 27-03-2020 12:07PM

Rob A. Bank wrote: »

That was a shocking read.

Maybe our fate too, if the containment measures do not work.

I know. If you think you might be forgetting how serious this is you need to read that article. Best viewed on desktop.

shocksy · 27-03-2020 12:08PM

fits wrote: »

I know. If you think you might be forgetting how serious this is you need to read that article. Best viewed on desktop.

I'm seeing a paywall on my phone so cant read it.

Naggdefy · 27-03-2020 12:09PM

Back from a supervalu in a small Laois town.

Way too many people inside, the aisles are packed. People tripping over themselves.

is_that_so · 27-03-2020 12:09PM

voluntary wrote: »

Spain is the NEW ITALY. The questions is: what will be the NEW SPAIN.

USA! USA! USA!

TheMilkyPirate · 27-03-2020 12:09PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Cash is going to be taken out of circulation and wont be legal tender eventually.

It's not like there is going to be a choice.

Think of all the benefits. A lot of money theft gone, drugs trade ended overnight, improved health etc etc

The benefits are huge.

"Drugs trade ended overnight" hahahaha

Xertz · 27-03-2020 12:09PM

mick987 wrote: »

Why have 20 million chinese stopped using their mobile phones since January?

That could also be largely economic. Many people in China wouldn’t have much of an ability to continue to top up or pay bills if they’ve been laid off.
I would say the economic realities in China are definitely being underplayed.

murpho999 · 27-03-2020 12:10PM

Xertz wrote: »

Wearing gloves to handle cash is for the person behind the counter’s protection, not the customer.

You should treat all cash as potentially dirty.

Let's assume the cash is infected.

They wear gloves or wash their hands. What's the difference?

The gloves will get infected.

AtomicHorror · 27-03-2020 12:10PM

BKtje wrote: »

Would you have a source on this regarding the false positives? I can't find any literature about it (after a quick google) with regards to the coronavirus. I do know that false positives exist but I was under the impression that this was a relatively tiny amount and thus not really something to worry too much about in this case during a pandemic.

I'll keep searching in the mean time.

Thanks

I wish I did, I've been looking for a few days. In principal, a diagnostic test always has a % of both errors, however small. Even the small errors become significant when you move up to large scale testing. But I haven't been able to find numbers on the nasal swab/PCR test, let alone a comparison with the the other test kits that are popping up.

That home antibody kit would be one I'd be particularly nervous about, given how the UK are touting it for mass use.

CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)*OP upd 28/03*

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CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)OP upd 28/03