CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)OP upd 28/03

MOR316 · 27-03-2020 11:04AM

weldoninhio wrote: »

Seen someone mention a loss of taste too.

But that's enough about my favourite music

growleaves · 27-03-2020 11:06AM

Aww the poor crathurs. Guess they shouldn't be in areas they shouldn't be then eh? Gardai should be allowed use their batons to move people on or break up groups who are refusing to break up.

There are food shortages in India.

Edit: deleted

walshb · 27-03-2020 11:07AM

weldoninhio wrote: »

They were in an area they should not have been. We use the carrot approach in Ireland and have scum with over 100 convictions roaming the streets. The stick approach is an option we should try.

So straight to beating people, is that what you want to see from our gardai...women and men beaten without first trying to request and ask...?

So, a person is out and about, and straight to beating him/her up for being in an area he shouldn't?

You are coming across quite sadistic...

I am not talking about scum with convictions. You keep bringing this bit up...

quokula · 27-03-2020 11:08AM

eastie17 wrote: »

Can anyone point to useful metrics to show how we are doing with this as a country?
The number of identified cases per day is not a good metric imho. The testing regimes, criteria for testing and indeed the different population demographics, that society's way of living etc are so different its a nonsense.
I can see people in this country getting panicked when we start to hit the 3,000s plus and continue to increase by 200+ a day - why? Because its a big number - but it doesn't really mean anything

Number of patients in ICU versus capacity, number of deaths as a per capita stat versus other countries are useful numbers that actually mean something. I'm finding the daily count number to be a bit of a nonsense and something that people are going to get wound up over unnecessarily.

If this is actually working, our early school closures, social distancing etc then a metric showing that (or not) is key to keeping the population (those who will) properly engaged.

At 4 deaths per million we’ve a similar rate to Germany, and doing better than most European countries. The likes of Sweden and Denmark are 50% higher than us while our closest neighbour the UK has more than twice the death rate. France and Netherlands are more than double that again with Spain and Italy way off the chart.

Our death rate is also very close to South Korea’s but given that they’ve been dealing with it longer that doesn’t mean we’re doing quite so well.

legrand · 27-03-2020 11:08AM

one of a number of Covid trackers https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6

What I find curious, and hope it's just down to being unable to get the data, but the 'recovered' count has been sitting on just '5' for over a week now [for the Ireland record].

tobefrank321 · 27-03-2020 11:08AM

weldoninhio wrote: »

People seen doors being welded shut and their imaginations went into overdrive. From what I saw reported, the back entrances to apartment blocks were welded shut to ensure anyone entering or leaving the building went through a door that was manned.

That's my understanding too. Cutting down the entrances to make it easier to patrol.

Basically they tried to enforce a lockdown.

In Ireland we didn't bother to enforce a lockdown.

KiKi III · 27-03-2020 11:08AM

weldoninhio wrote: »

:D:D:D:D All ganging up on me. Hilarious. I must be getting to FF/FG am I?

I mean, you demanded proof that you said it was scaremongering and people gave it to you. You asked for it more than once. And when people happily obliged you, they're "ganging up".

The grown up thing to do would be to admit you got it wrong.

I'm not blameless. I went abroad on 12 March on holiday. There were about 10 cases in Ireland at the time and about 20 the place I was going. It was the wrong decision - I shouldn't have gone. Hindsight is 20:20.

I had no idea how fast this would escalate. You can call that ignorant, I don't think anyone knew the extent of it. I do think the government should have given better advice.

I ended up flying home 10 days early and I've been in total isolation since.

AtomicHorror · 27-03-2020 11:12AM

legrand wrote: »

one of a number of Covid trackers https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6

What I find curious, and hope it's just down to being unable to get the data, but the 'recovered' count has been sitting on just '5' for over a week now [for the Ireland record].

Recoveries are more likely to be lost to follow-up, so could just be that.

from_atozinc · 27-03-2020 11:12AM

what are the general opening hours of the test centers, 9-5 type setup is it?

is_that_so · 27-03-2020 11:14AM

legrand wrote: »

one of a number of Covid trackers https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6

What I find curious, and hope it's just down to being unable to get the data, but the 'recovered' count has been sitting on just '5' for over a week now [for the Ireland record].

In one briefing or another this week they said they expected to have that available soon.

Hobgoblin11 · 27-03-2020 11:14AM

China closes borders to incomers as imported covid cases up to 55

27-03-2020 11:14AM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Today's deaths show the trouble of getting into nursing homes. That is something that has to be stopped at all costs.

One of my friends works in a nursing home. None of the staff are tested.

Steve F · 27-03-2020 11:15AM

KiKi III wrote: »

I mean, you demanded proof that you said it was scaremongering and people gave it to you. You asked for it more than once. And when people happily obliged you, they're "ganging up".

The grown up thing to do would be to admit you got it wrong.

I'm not blameless. I went abroad on 12 March on holiday. There were about 10 cases in Ireland at the time and about 20 the place I was going. It was the wrong decision - I shouldn't have gone. Hindsight is 20:20.

I had no idea how fast this would escalate. You can call that ignorant, I don't think anyone knew the extent of it. I do think the government should have given better advice.

I ended up flying home 10 days early and I've been in total isolation since.

How ya feeling...OK I hope
On the 12th of March hardly anyone was predicting the extent of it so as you say Hindsight is 20:20

growleaves · 27-03-2020 11:15AM

So straight to beating people, is that what you want to see from our gardai...women and men beaten without first trying to request and ask...?

So, a person is out and about, and straight to beating him/her up for being in an area he shouldn't?

He doesn't think he'll be the one getting his head smashed open.

27-03-2020 11:16AM

growleaves wrote: »

There are food shortages in India.

One good thing that might come of all is this is if your average boardsie coward who spends his life complaining about scumbags and dole-bludgers leaves his house (due to hunger) and gets battered over a head by a garda with a nightstick.

"But I'm not a scumbag! I'm in the 52% tax bracket"

Another clatter over the head. Blood running down your face now.

You can spit in a Garda's face and they won't do that.

Sittingpretty · 27-03-2020 11:16AM

from_atozinc wrote: »

what are the general opening hours of the test centers, 9-5 type setup is it?

I think I read it’s 8-8. Not certain on that though.

I wonder if there will be even further restriction after today’s NPHET meeting and if so I wonder what they might be.

I’m still stuck in surreal shock.

murpho999 · 27-03-2020 11:17AM

tobefrank321 wrote: »

China now banning all but the bare minimum of flights into the country to prevent a second wave of infections. Showing decisive leadership again.

Yes, they're a great bunch of lads. Would love to live under their regime.

People are going on about fights.

Flights are greatly reduced. Passenger numbers are down massively.

Also all incoming passengers, regardless of nationality, are told on flights and in the airport that they need to self-isolate for 14 days.

The point is now that the virus is in the community, incoming flights now are negligible and not the problem.

Seamai · 27-03-2020 11:18AM

I see worldometers is showing 24 "resolved" cases in Ireland made up of 19 deaths and 5 recoveries, it then shows 1795 "active" cases, technically this figure in probably not correct as I'm sure there are more than 5 people recovered 4 weeks after the first cases were reported here.
As new cases increase, there will also be recoveries at the other end, a more accurate figure for active cases would be welcome. I realise that this site is only going on info given to them.

Babooshka · 27-03-2020 11:19AM

amadangomor wrote: »

You're doing the same here , report it if your not happy. He's a gob****e and he's stinking up the thread/trolling

Honestly, there are more important things. Let it go and let the thread move on.

growleaves · 27-03-2020 11:19AM

You can spit in a Garda's face and they won't do that.

I know that.

I'm joking about the totalitarian fantasies that some posters have.

If there really was a police state they'd be getting bashed over the head themselves and their sense that their being a respectable person would protect them (as opposed to 'scummers') would be out the window.

I don't actually want anyone to be harmed, including Indians who are hungry and in the wrong place at the wrong time.

voluntary · 27-03-2020 11:21AM

Hobgoblin11 wrote: »

China closes borders to incomers as imported covid cases up to 55

They must be seeing tons of community transmission right now. Impossible to have so many imported cases for so many days and not tricked down to the wider society. We only needed very few imported cases in Ireland to have a thousand right now.

tobefrank321 · 27-03-2020 11:22AM

KiKi III wrote: »

I mean, you demanded proof that you said it was scaremongering and people gave it to you. You asked for it more than once. And when people happily obliged you, they're "ganging up".

The grown up thing to do would be to admit you got it wrong.

I'm not blameless. I went abroad on 12 March on holiday. There were about 10 cases in Ireland at the time and about 20 the place I was going. It was the wrong decision - I shouldn't have gone. Hindsight is 20:20.

I had no idea how fast this would escalate. You can call that ignorant, I don't think anyone knew the extent of it. I do think the government should have given better advice.

I ended up flying home 10 days early and I've been in total isolation since.

Good idea to isolate and hopefully you are fine.

Even when there was no confirmed cases or a low level in certain countries, covid19 was likely spreading undetected. There was in all probability thousands of cases in Northern Italy before they started confirming cases.

I'm fairly sure its endemic in the UK now with hundreds of thousands of undetected cases. The US probably has close to 1 million undetected cases. France, Spain, also high levels. We can assume that the actual level of cases is probably ten times the number of confirmed cases.

weldoninhio · 27-03-2020 11:22AM

growleaves wrote: »

He doesn't think he'll be the one getting his head smashed open.

They were hitting them across the legs on the videos I saw, so unless your head is up your hole you aren't gonna get it smashed open.

27-03-2020 11:23AM

The nursing home situation is really worrying. From my own experience a family member was in short-term care in a private nursing home recently. Every single time I visited the corridors smelled of human waste to a degree that we were holding our noses, not dettol, not bleach. I hope after this Ireland as a society looks more emphatically at the care of our elderly including the possible nationalisation of all care homes.

pc7 · 27-03-2020 11:23AM

AtomicHorror wrote: »

Recoveries are more likely to be lost to follow-up, so could just be that.

Or they have to wait a few weeks for a test to show they are clear.

AtomicHorror · 27-03-2020 11:23AM

Babooshka wrote: »

Honestly, there are more important things. Let it go and let the thread move on.

So talk about those things and the conversation will move. Stop trying to force it.

4Ad · 27-03-2020 11:24AM

My brother just went to pick up my Dads pension, the post office worker was wearing NO gloves handling cash, my brother was wearing gloves and asked her to put money into a freezer bag he provided.
Ridiculous esp as she is dealing with older people..

AtomicHorror · 27-03-2020 11:24AM

pc7 wrote: »

Or they have to wait a few weeks for a test to show they are clear.

Yep, it'll definitely lag behind, and I think you have to get two negatives?

Looptheloop30 · 27-03-2020 11:25AM

Media briefing at 11.15

iwillyeah1234 · 27-03-2020 11:26AM

Interesting development in England

"Councils in England have been asked to house all rough sleepers by the weekend, Sky News is reporting, though the government has yet to confirm this. The charity Crisis, which supports the homeless, told Sky the “unprecedented” move was made in a letter from the Ministry of Housing, Communities and Local Government to local authorities yesterday."

Source : https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2020/mar/27/uk-coronavirus-live-rough-sleepers-nhs-applause-covid-19-latest-news?page=with:block-5e7dc2888f081e5eda237c4b#block-5e7dc2888f081e5eda237c4b

CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)*OP upd 28/03*

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CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)OP upd 28/03