CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)OP upd 28/03

Kermit.de.frog · 27-03-2020 02:05AM

pjohnson wrote: »

Yep we are far removed from any countries model due to our inability to test or quarantine people. The policy is fingers crossed people stay apart and get lucky. and if that doesn't maybe cross your toes and hope for luck?

An Irish solution to an Irish problem as the great man use to say

darjeeling · 27-03-2020 02:08AM

A few days ago I posted this, showing a rise in flu-like illness while flu was falling over the first 2 weeks in March (circled).

This week shows a record increase in reported flu-like symptoms:

From the report (link):

GP sentinel surveillance system - Clinical Data

During week 12 2020, 354 influenza-like illness (ILI) cases were reported by sentinel GPs, this corresponds to an ILI consultation rate of 184 per 100,000 population, an increase compared to the updated rate of 12.9 per 100,000 population reported during week 11 2020. This is likely reflective of the current COVID-19 pandemic rather than influenza.

ILI case definition: Fever ≥ 38 C◦ and cough with onset within last 10 days.
The ILI rate for week 12 2020 is now in the very high thresholds levels (103.61 to <329.68 per 100,000)

ILI age specific rate was highest in those aged 15-64 years (191.3/100,000), 5-14 years (132/100,000) and ≥65year olds (116.5/100,000) and lowest in those aged 0-4 years ( 89.6/100,000)

This is the highest ILI rate the HPSC has ever recorded with the exception of the peak rate of 201.1/100,000 during the 2009 pandemic

Some of this increase is probably due to concerned people consulting GPs who in other times would not have done so, but still it looks as though the epidemic was taking off fast in the last few weeks.

Scuid Mhór · 27-03-2020 02:09AM

delly wrote: »

I was taking it seriously from the start, stocked up on some key provisions early and took my kid out of school 2 weeks before the official closure. With that being said I had absolutely no idea in hell that we would be where we are today. What makes it even scarier is that I genuinely cannot forecast where we will be a month from now.

Yeah. Even as one of those who predicted it/saw it coming in the early threads, now that we are here it's incredible to note that even since I saw it coming since January, I certainly couldn't have imagined anything like this. It's a rather dissociating experience, for sure.

aligator_am · 27-03-2020 02:10AM

citysights wrote: »

I find it so ironic that the country where this started is now supplying PPE gear etc. to other countries. The ocd part of me worries that the equipment might harbor the virus, plastic packaging etc. Maybe I’m just over thinking.

To be honest with you, personally I don't put any stock in what the Chinese mouthpieces proclaim.

I'm a fairly cynical person to be fair, but going by the track record of the Chinese authorities, there's no way I believe it when they say that there are no new cases there.

27-03-2020 02:12AM

eagle eye wrote: »

It doesn't matter what they did or didn't do. The leader of the country is either responsible or not responsible. It doesn't change from country to country.

Leaders are responsible for what they do.

The leaders of Italy and Spain are doing what they can to stem the situation, they aren't going on national television blaming everyone else, trying to use it for self gain, dividing their country further and generally making an ass of themselves.

The Donald has been being his usual self and unfortunately Americans are going to suffer more because of it.

Doesn't take a genius to see the difference.

fritzelly · 27-03-2020 02:13AM

Just decided to rewatch Contagion again (after many years, my previous film selection was TWD, RE etc) - my god it is so damn true to life with regards to what is happening now (also forgot how many stars were in it)

Away With The Fairies · 27-03-2020 02:13AM

Took a nap and woke up with the news of 19 deaths. It's heartbreaking and so much people still not taking this seriously saying things like "we're better than Italy". We're only a few weeks behind them. Please take this seriously.

citysights · 27-03-2020 02:14AM

delly wrote: »

I was taking it seriously from the start, stocked up on some key provisions early and took my kid out of school 2 weeks before the official closure. With that being said I had absolutely no idea in hell that we would be where we are today. What makes it even scarier is that I genuinely cannot forecast where we will be a month from now.

Good that you were well prepared. I considered letting the kids stay at home but felt I’d just get too much grief for doing it, from school and family.

People I know say they are taking it day by day, it’s the most bizarre world now. If anyone had told me at Christmas that we’d be in lock down in March waging war against a new killer virus I’d have told them to get off the video games or see a mental health specialist or stop smoking drugs. This thing is bringing the whole world to a halt. Boards is great though because it’s good for people to talk out their thoughts plus we get loads of information about the virus. I prefer to know than not to know.

BorneTobyWilde · 27-03-2020 02:16AM

Billy Gates on CNN , Not painting a happy picture. Saying Trump is dreaming if he thinks mid April is time to open up American again.

ThePopehimself · 27-03-2020 02:18AM

Hamsterchops wrote: »

We might be over the worst of this by the end of April, or May, possibly into June? Who knows, but then there will be several questions about what just happened, like . . . . .

1/ Will the virus come back again next year?
2/ If I've caught it once might I catch it again?
3/ Might the virus mutate into a different strain?
4/ Could survivors have future complications?
5/ Was the release of Covid-19 a deliberate act?
6) Why is it so random in its individual potency?
7/ What's been goin on while we're all distracted?

There's a few questions to be going on with...

1. Yeah
2. No
3. Yeah
4. Yeah
5. No
6. It isn't.
7. Life

kowloon · 27-03-2020 02:23AM

nocoverart wrote: »

Without getting carried away, perhaps we finally have a legitimate answer to the Fermi Paradox. We’re so vulnerable to these Viruses that they could potentially wipe out the Human Race! this Virus won’t do that but perhaps the next one or the one after that. ****ty Viruses could be the true Great Filter.

I like to think they've seen enough of our tv signals to know not to get involved.

speckle · 27-03-2020 02:24AM

Mervyn Skidmore wrote: »

Send out a family message saying to stay away, no exceptions. Anyone who disagrees, set out the facts.

and change locks on doors if needs be.

cnocbui · 27-03-2020 02:25AM

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Billy Gates on CNN , Not painting a happy picture. Saying Trump is dreaming if he thinks mid April is time to open up American again.

It's rather a pity at this time that Gates isn't the Democrat candidate going up against Trump.

humberklog · 27-03-2020 02:27AM

ThePopehimself wrote: »

1. Yeah
2. No
3. Yeah
4. Yeah
5. No
6. It isn't.
7. Life

Listening to Dr. Fauci recently and he wouldn't agree absolutely with your 2nd answer.

aligator_am · 27-03-2020 02:29AM

Am curious about what your reactions would be if you were on the receiving end of this Corona challenge thing by some youngsters?

So if, for example, some teens came up to you and deliberately coughed in your face or spat at you, would you hesitate in levelling them with a dig in the head?

(Perhaps) More importantly, what would the Gards do? in these exceptional times would they waive their regular application of the law or how do you think it would pan out?

Could you even prove that the little toerags coughed / spat at you?

ThePopehimself · 27-03-2020 02:29AM

fritzelly wrote: »

Just decided to rewatch Contagion again (after many years, my previous film selection was TWD, RE etc) - my god it is so damn true to life with regards to what is happening now (also forgot how many stars were in it)

We watched it the other night.

Scarily accurate.

eagle eye · 27-03-2020 02:29AM

DubInMeath wrote:

The Donald has been being his usual self and unfortunately Americans are going to suffer more because of it.

You see this is what you m talking about. You are blaming him for how bad they are going to be hit by covud-19. That's just ridiculous, there are governor's with enormous powers in every state in the US. There is the CDC whose job is to manage situations like this.
Donald Trump is a horrible human being and the worst President in the history of the USA I think. He is not responsible for Covid-19 though and what he says doesn't really matter as it's up to the governor of each state to decide how seriously they act to prevent the spread of this virus.
And as I've said it doesn't matter who says what, if you are going to blame the leader in one country then your a hypocrite if you are not blaming the leaders in the other countries.

PaybackPayroll · 27-03-2020 02:30AM

humberklog wrote: »

Listening to Dr. Fauci recently and he wouldn't agree absolutely with your 2nd answer.

If it's possible to catch multiple times, then that's a major game changer. No herd immunity.

Each successive time, does it weaken us more?

kowloon · 27-03-2020 02:30AM

humberklog wrote: »

Listening to Dr. Fauci recently and he wouldn't agree absolutely with your 2nd answer.

I got Swine Flu twice, not the same thing, but I imagine it'll take time for Sars-Cov-2 to be researched more.

Corkgirl20 · 27-03-2020 02:33AM

kowloon wrote: »

I got Swine Flu twice, not the same thing, but I imagine it'll take time for Sars-Cov-2 to be researched more.

Apparently people who have had swine flu now have super immunities to other viruses.

eagle eye · 27-03-2020 02:33AM

PaybackPayroll wrote:

If it's possible to catch multiple times, then that's a major game changer. No herd immunity.

Each successive time, does it weaken us more?

We won't know this for a couple of months yet.
We are about 16/17 months from a vaccine. I don't think anybody can consider themselves safe until then.

ThePopehimself · 27-03-2020 02:34AM

The Last Man On Earth (Series)

Mike Pence has died of the Virus.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSyQvrb-caQ

johnnyskeleton · 27-03-2020 02:38AM

PaybackPayroll wrote: »

If it's possible to catch multiple times, then that's a major game changer. No herd immunity.

Each successive time, does it weaken us more?

There are many possibilities though - it gives some/most people immunity, but not others, it gives temporary immunity for a few weeks then goes, possibly that it can give partial immunity (i.e. you can still get it, but are better able to deal with it the second time), you can have immunity to one strain, but not to another novel strain etc.

pjohnson · 27-03-2020 02:40AM

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

Took a nap and woke up with the news of 19 deaths. It's heartbreaking and so much people still not taking this seriously saying things like "we're better than Italy". We're only a few weeks behind them. Please take this seriously.

We've been practically the same as Italy since the start. It took us an eternity to start waking up to this reality.

nocoverart · 27-03-2020 02:41AM

I feel like I let my guard down with my musical tastes these last few years, I allowed horrid Pop Music into my brain stream. My ears are definitely receiving a good vaccine with Radiohead/OK Computer and Pink Floyd/Animals in these tough times, it’s not all bad.

spookwoman · 27-03-2020 02:44AM

Last graph
https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/1243302753851412480?s=20

jill_valentine · 27-03-2020 02:45AM

Louisiana in the US is in the process of getting an absolute walloping as a result of Mardi Gras going ahead.

As an aside, this year's New Orleans procession passed a partially collapsed building where a worker's corpse is still occasionally visible from the street, leading some to suggest it was cursed.

delly · 27-03-2020 02:45AM

citysights wrote: »

Good that you were well prepared. I considered letting the kids stay at home but felt I’d just get too much grief for doing it, from school and family.

People I know say they are taking it day by day, it’s the most bizarre world now. If anyone had told me at Christmas that we’d be in lock down in March waging war against a new killer virus I’d have told them to get off the video games or see a mental health specialist or stop smoking drugs. This thing is bringing the whole world to a halt. Boards is great though because it’s good for people to talk out their thoughts plus we get loads of information about the virus. I prefer to know than not to know.

In my case there was an underlying illness, so it just wasn't worth the risk no matter how small it was in those early days. I actually remember waking up during the night frequently in that first week, literally in a state of panic. I could only compare it to the same feeling of waking when my dad died, the realisation of such a terrible and sad event.

speckle · 27-03-2020 02:46AM

AdrianG08 wrote: »

my mother in law passed away with it today. She had underlying conditions ... but was scarily quick how it took hold.../quote]

May the road rise with her, on her journey home, to the loving embrace of her ancestors. We the people of Ireland also embrace you, and your family from a far. I have a candle in my window for herself, and the other souls that have passed away today.

aligator_am · 27-03-2020 02:47AM

johnnyskeleton wrote: »

There are many possibilities though - it gives some/most people immunity, but not others, it gives temporary immunity for a few weeks then goes, possibly that it can give partial immunity (i.e. you can still get it, but are better able to deal with it the second time), you can have immunity to one strain, but not to another novel strain etc.

That is something that I've been wondering about, I've not heard of any massive outbreaks of the virus in Africa or South America, this is a good thing of course (assuming there's no big outbreaks), just curious as to how it hasn't really kicked off there yet?

Listening to a Joe Rogan podcast and he mentioned that a Doctor friend of his has a patient in their 20's who's a fitness instructor that is in a heap with it and on a ventilator, and yet you have say Idris Elba who's in his 40's or possibly 50's who also has it and is apparently not a bother to him?

It may be a while before we figure out why some are more succeptible than others, but it's interesting nonetheless.

CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)*OP upd 28/03*

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CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)OP upd 28/03