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CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)*OP upd 28/03*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,883 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Wouldn't be in the interest of the virus to wipe us all out. Better to become less deadly which many do over time and become endemic in a population.

    Viruses don't have an interest, they have no motive and no mind, it's a ridiculous way of looking at it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,789 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    paddythere wrote: »
    What do you make of Iceland apparently identifying 40 strains of it?

    Means nothing - multiples of strains have been identified
    Would need a massive shift in it's structure to make any difference

    Tho that dog report earlier could mean it mutates for dogs then gets passed back to humans so no one knows what would happen then


  • Posts: 4,896 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    paddythere wrote: »


    Bizarre. Could be down to faulty test kits as well though. Its been reported on before. Also from that piece:

    “The researchers also found no evidence they were still infections, as family members all tested negative.”


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,245 ✭✭✭Gretas Gonna Get Ya!


    Strazdas wrote: »
    The reason our Govt went with the South Korea model is they are a similar democracy to ourselves. Wuhan was always a non runner (and the military dictatorship style curfew favoured by the nuts on Twitter was only ever applied to a single city, not an entire country).

    Also, the WHO warned western governments against moving to lockdown too soon - their emphasis was always as much on testing and contact tracing.

    But we're not modelling S.Korea - if we are it's a piss poor attempt. We are nowhere near their level of restrictions or their level of testing.

    You know Wuhan has more than twice the population of Ireland, right? So yes their approach was achievable and it's not nuts either... nuts is allowing 1,000's to die in the name of maintaining your reputation as a nice moderate limp-wristed liberal democracy... that's nuts! That's completely bonkers!

    We can barely manage to test people who are showing often quite severe symptoms, for many days... in many Asian countries, they are mass testing... they're even testing animals in Hong Kong for this virus! ffs

    We really need to pull the finger out, before it's too late!


  • Posts: 6,583 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    eagle eye wrote: »
    You are predicting the US to have an awful time with covid-19 and blaming Trump for it.
    Italy and Spain have had a massive amount of deaths due to it. Who are you blaming for that?
    If you are not blaming their leaders the you are a hypocrite blaming Trump.

    Did the leaders of Italy and Spain call it a hoax among the myriad of other sh1te the tool has done?

    The rest of your post isn't worth the bandwidth.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,354 ✭✭✭nocoverart


    Wouldn't be in the interest of the virus to wipe us all out. Better to become less deadly which many do over time and become endemic in a population.

    Yeah, that’s true. I was just philosophically thinking out loud I guess. The most reasonable answer to the Fermi Paradox is that FTL is not possible and the Universe is incredibly large.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 42,788 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    DubInMeath wrote:
    Did the leaders of Italy and Spain call it a hoax among the myriad of other sh1te the tool has done?
    It doesn't matter what they did or didn't do. The leader of the country is either responsible or not responsible. It doesn't change from country to country.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,011 ✭✭✭BLIZZARD7


    17k + new cases in the last 24hrs in the US , they are in deep trouble.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,618 ✭✭✭uncleoswald


    vladmydad wrote: »
    Because of the lockdown they’re running low on supplies.
    Oh, you are one of those QAnon nuts. Always good to know who's opinions can be completely discarded.

    *the other option is that you are not nuts but one the online trolls feeding the nuts. But my response will be the same.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,900 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    First time I get the sense within the department of health and HSE in this press conference of real concern this evening. Especially so is the numbers of those covid-19 patients in ICU's, 47 the latest figures. Dr Holohan is also concerned at the amount of cases in nursing homes and long stay settings.

    Over half of confirmed covid-19 cases are now involving community transmission.

    Scary times indeed and the facial expressions of those at the top table at tonight's presser is of some concern.

    The fact it took themselves so long to realise this is serious is another problem.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,354 ✭✭✭nocoverart


    BLIZZARD7 wrote: »
    17k + new cases in the last 24hrs in the US , they are in deep trouble.

    Absolute sh1t show! The Virus first and then the breakdown of society over there. I fear The Purge has nothing on what’s going to be the reality there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,591 ✭✭✭gabeeg


    Strazdas wrote: »
    The reason our Govt went with the South Korea model is they are a similar democracy to ourselves. Wuhan was always a non runner (and the military dictatorship style curfew favoured by the nuts on Twitter was only ever applied to a single city, not an entire country).

    Also, the WHO warned western governments against moving to lockdown too soon - their emphasis was always as much on testing and contact tracing.

    What we've adopted is far closer to the US model than the South Korean model.
    It's closer to the Iranian model than the South Korean model, frankly.

    If we're somehow doing well in all this crap, it's pure luck


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,178 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    BLIZZARD7 wrote: »
    17k + new cases in the last 24hrs in the US , they are in deep trouble.

    Thank God they have such great leadership at this time of emergency


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 288 ✭✭citysights


    Is anyone still finding this surreal? Have been following from the start here on boards and when I told a few people about it they thought I was being ridiculous. Now they are taking it seriously? I wonder where we’ll be by Christmas 2020 with all of this?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,062 ✭✭✭Fighting Irish


    He's coherent.

    That's not an explanation


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,598 ✭✭✭aligator_am


    Bizarre. Could be down to faulty test kits as well though. Its been reported on before. Also from that piece:

    “The researchers also found no evidence they were still infections, as family members all tested negative.”

    Interesting you say that, I saw an article earlier which indicated that 80% of the virus test kits that China supplied to the Czech Republic were faulty.

    If this is true, and those same test kits are being used as a standard bearer elsewhere then that is extremely worrying!

    I really do hope it's a glitch or maybe just a bad batch.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,153 ✭✭✭dougm1970


    crazy the way the numbers are going....doesnt seem that long ago that the world had hit 100,000 cases and it was big news....and theres been over 60,000 today alone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,900 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    gabeeg wrote: »
    What we've adopted is far closer to the US model than the South Korean model.
    It's closer to the Iranian model than the South Korean model, frankly.

    If we're somehow doing well in all this crap, it's pure luck

    Yep we are far removed from any countries model due to our inability to test or quarantine people. The policy is fingers crossed people stay apart and get lucky. and if that doesn't maybe cross your toes and hope for luck?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,591 ✭✭✭gabeeg


    citysights wrote: »
    Is anyone still finding this surreal? Have been following from the start here on boards and when I told a few people about it they thought I was being ridiculous. Now they are taking it seriously? I wonder where we’ll be by Christmas 2020 with all of this?

    No

    I feel like the life I was living a few months ago was surreal. For me this has surfaced the reality of just how vulnerable we are.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,354 ✭✭✭nocoverart


    We might be over the worst of this by the end of April, or May, possibly into June? Who knows, but then there will be several questions about what just happened, like . . . . .

    1/ Will the virus come back again next year?
    2/ If I've caught it once might I catch it again?
    3/ Might the virus mutate into a different strain?
    4/ Could survivors have future complications?
    5/ Was the release of Covid-19 a deliberate act?
    6) Why is it so random in its individual potency?
    7/ What's been goin on while we're all distracted?


    There's a few questions to be going on with...

    I’d be just happy to order a pint in my local TBH, and worry about all that sh1te later.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,009 ✭✭✭Hamsterchops


    citysights wrote: »
    Is anyone still finding this surreal? Have been following from the start here on boards and when I told a few people about it they thought I was being ridiculous. Now they are taking it seriously? I wonder where we’ll be by Christmas 2020 with all of this?

    Well indeed, I might add that to my list in #1791.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 288 ✭✭citysights


    Interesting you say that, I saw an article earlier which indicated that 80% of the virus test kits that China supplied to the Czech Republic were faulty.

    If this is true, and those same test kits are being used as a standard bearer elsewhere then that is extremely worrying!

    I really do hope it's a glitch or maybe just a bad batch.

    I find it so ironic that the country where this started is now supplying PPE gear etc. to other countries. The ocd part of me worries that the equipment might harbor the virus, plastic packaging etc. Maybe I’m just over thinking.


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 7,809 Mod ✭✭✭✭delly


    citysights wrote: »
    Is anyone still finding this surreal? Have been following from the start here on boards and when I told a few people about it they thought I was being ridiculous. Now they are taking it seriously? I wonder where we’ll be by Christmas 2020 with all of this?

    I was taking it seriously from the start, stocked up on some key provisions early and took my kid out of school 2 weeks before the official closure. With that being said I had absolutely no idea in hell that we would be where we are today. What makes it even scarier is that I genuinely cannot forecast where we will be a month from now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,517 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    citysights wrote: »
    Is anyone still finding this surreal? Have been following from the start here on boards and when I told a few people about it they thought I was being ridiculous. Now they are taking it seriously? I wonder where we’ll be by Christmas 2020 with all of this?

    Just stay at home.

    You'll be grand.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,178 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    pjohnson wrote: »
    Yep we are far removed from any countries model due to our inability to test or quarantine people. The policy is fingers crossed people stay apart and get lucky. and if that doesn't maybe cross your toes and hope for luck?

    An Irish solution to an Irish problem as the great man use to say


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 962 ✭✭✭darjeeling


    A few days ago I posted this, showing a rise in flu-like illness while flu was falling over the first 2 weeks in March (circled).

    507163.png

    This week shows a record increase in reported flu-like symptoms:

    507164.png

    From the report (link):
    GP sentinel surveillance system - Clinical Data

    During week 12 2020, 354 influenza-like illness (ILI) cases were reported by sentinel GPs, this corresponds to an ILI consultation rate of 184 per 100,000 population, an increase compared to the updated rate of 12.9 per 100,000 population reported during week 11 2020. This is likely reflective of the current COVID-19 pandemic rather than influenza.

    ILI case definition: Fever ≥ 38 C◦ and cough with onset within last 10 days.
    The ILI rate for week 12 2020 is now in the very high thresholds levels (103.61 to <329.68 per 100,000)

    ILI age specific rate was highest in those aged 15-64 years (191.3/100,000), 5-14 years (132/100,000) and ≥65year olds (116.5/100,000) and lowest in those aged 0-4 years ( 89.6/100,000)

    This is the highest ILI rate the HPSC has ever recorded with the exception of the peak rate of 201.1/100,000 during the 2009 pandemic

    Some of this increase is probably due to concerned people consulting GPs who in other times would not have done so, but still it looks as though the epidemic was taking off fast in the last few weeks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,326 ✭✭✭Scuid Mhór


    delly wrote: »
    I was taking it seriously from the start, stocked up on some key provisions early and took my kid out of school 2 weeks before the official closure. With that being said I had absolutely no idea in hell that we would be where we are today. What makes it even scarier is that I genuinely cannot forecast where we will be a month from now.

    Yeah. Even as one of those who predicted it/saw it coming in the early threads, now that we are here it's incredible to note that even since I saw it coming since January, I certainly couldn't have imagined anything like this. It's a rather dissociating experience, for sure.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,598 ✭✭✭aligator_am


    citysights wrote: »
    I find it so ironic that the country where this started is now supplying PPE gear etc. to other countries. The ocd part of me worries that the equipment might harbor the virus, plastic packaging etc. Maybe I’m just over thinking.

    To be honest with you, personally I don't put any stock in what the Chinese mouthpieces proclaim.

    I'm a fairly cynical person to be fair, but going by the track record of the Chinese authorities, there's no way I believe it when they say that there are no new cases there.


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  • Posts: 6,583 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    eagle eye wrote: »
    It doesn't matter what they did or didn't do. The leader of the country is either responsible or not responsible. It doesn't change from country to country.

    Leaders are responsible for what they do.

    The leaders of Italy and Spain are doing what they can to stem the situation, they aren't going on national television blaming everyone else, trying to use it for self gain, dividing their country further and generally making an ass of themselves.

    The Donald has been being his usual self and unfortunately Americans are going to suffer more because of it.

    Doesn't take a genius to see the difference.


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