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CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)*OP upd 28/03*

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  • #1412
    Yurt2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    This economist is a looper. *spend* he says...fcuk off.

    What's he saying? Not tuned in


  • #1413
    Logan Roy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 452 ✭✭Logan Roy


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    More than you know. Hundreds of thousands of people are out of work and have bills to pay...wtf are they going to spend??

    So enlighten us?


  • #1414
    ChikiChiki
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    Logan Roy wrote: »
    What are your economic qualifications?

    Tbf he wants old pensioners stuck in their homes afraid of their lives to spend all their money online. That is the message.

    Its an awful awful sentiment. No humanity.

    We are not that low as a country.


  • #1415
    AtomicHorror
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,888 ✭✭✭AtomicHorror


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    This economist is a looper. *spend* he says...fcuk off.

    To be fair, it's pretty much by the book economics. Krugman stuff. I happen to consider the whole business to be a total black art with pretty much zero scientific merit, but the guys not a radical. If he was a priest, he'd be suggesting a mass.


  • #1416
    FVP3
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,187 ✭✭✭FVP3


    Fakediamond wrote: »
    My father lost three siblings. An old man from my village, now long deceased, remembered seeing the three shrouded bodies lined up when he was a child, so they must have died at the same time. AFAIK, it continued to resurface right up to 1939 in different waves, but I’m open to correction on that.

    I don't think so. From what I read it peaked in one month (October IIRC) , and died out the next.


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  • #1417
    timmy_mallet
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,165 ✭✭✭timmy_mallet


    omerin wrote: »
    Can someone please explain to me why the **** are guards shopping, collecting prescriptions and making deliveries? I equate it to nurses and doctors cleaning the floors in hospitals, why are they wasting their time on meaninless activities, activities that should be done through the shops, chemists or communities. It is a waste of their manpower, when they should be strategically planning for what is to come.

    I honestly couldnt believe it when i saw the picture of 2 guards in a shop, if we werent in such dire times i would have laughed.

    Police have little else to be doing, why wouldn't they be helping out the community?


  • #1418
    sideswipe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,439 ✭✭✭sideswipe


    ChikiChiki wrote: »
    This lad on Prime Time seriously lacks any humanity.

    Economy
    Economy
    Economy


    To be fair there were some major projections announced by The ERSI today. This is an unprecedented event in all our lifetimes, the human cost is obviously tragic and deserves the majority of our attention but one day this will be over and the very future of our economic futures is at a massive crossroads. We should be allowed discuss it.


  • #1419
    Columbia
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,494 ✭✭✭Columbia


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    Time taken to reach these numbers:

    March 6: 100,000 (c. 3 months)
    March 18: 200,000 (12 days)
    March 21: 300,000 (3 days)
    March 24: 400,000 (3 days)
    March 26: 500,000 (2 days)

    Quoting this so it gets more exposure in a fast moving thread.

    Don't kid yourselves, the situation is bad and according to global recovered/died ratios, 15% of patients are dying from this before they recover. And that's with reported numbers. Many countries are suppressing the real data to avoid panic. I don't advocate panic but I do suggest taking basic precautions. Remember before you buy all of the hand sanitiser in Dunnes, to avoid this virus you need OTHER people to sanitise/wash their hands.


  • #1420
    amadangomor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭amadangomor


    Pence is a right wing cretin but he is far more presidential than Trump and imagine would have handled this crisis a lot better.


  • #1421
    froog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭froog


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    This economist is a looper. *spend* he says...fcuk off.

    he's right.


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  • #1422
    davemckenna25
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,253 ✭✭✭davemckenna25


    omerin wrote: »
    Can someone please explain to me why the **** are guards shopping, collecting prescriptions and making deliveries? I equate it to nurses and doctors cleaning the floors in hospitals, why are they wasting their time on meaninless activities, activities that should be done through the shops, chemists or communities. It is a waste of their manpower, when they should be strategically planning for what is to come.

    I honestly couldnt believe it when i saw the picture of 2 guards in a shop, if we werent in such dire times i would have laughed.

    What..... do you think all the Guards in the country sit down around a really large table to make up the plans and to.... strategically plan for what is to come..

    I think them helping out the vulnerable and at risk categories who have noone else to look after them is a great idea.


  • #1423
    Wibbs
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,321 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Fakediamond wrote: »
    My father lost three siblings. An old man from my village, now long deceased, remembered seeing the three shrouded bodies lined up when he was a child, so they must have died at the same time. AFAIK, it continued to resurface right up to 1939 in different waves, but I’m open to correction on that.
    I remember my maternal grandmother telling me stories of that time F. She would have been 18/19 when the pandemic rolled in. She told me she caught it early on, which would have likely saved her, the second wave being far worse. Her mother was one of those women who helped with local births and deaths. My grandmother helped her in turn. And yes talk of every second household calling on them to look at the recently deceased and "lay them out".

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • #1424
    stockshares
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,760 ✭✭✭stockshares


    paul71 wrote: »
    Public transport. The population of Dublin is the same as the rest of Leinster roughly. 774 cases vs 150 odd. It was spread on Dublin Bus and Dart.

    Train also. The Commuter belt all with high numbers

    Total cases as of Tuesday 24th
    Dublin 774
    Wicklow 49
    Kildare 39
    Meath 27
    Louth 20
    Kilkenny 19
    Wexford 8
    Carlow <5

    Cork 154
    Kerry 38
    Tipp 27
    Waterford 22


  • #1425
    Wibbs
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,321 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    davemckenna25 wrote: »
    I think them helping out the vulnerable and at risk categories who have noone else to look after them is a great idea.
    I think it's a bloody brilliant idea.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • #1426
    FVP3
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,187 ✭✭✭FVP3


    AtomicHorror wrote: »
    To be fair, it's pretty much by the book economics. Krugman stuff. I happen to consider the whole business to be a total black art with pretty much zero scientific merit, but the guys not a radical. If he was a priest, he'd be suggesting a mass.

    The only way to get out of a depression. ( which is where we are or will be real soon) is to spend.

    There are two schools of thought on this, which I wont get into too much, supply side and demand side stimulus. Suffice to say that supply side is nonsense.


  • #1427
    pawdee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 558 ✭✭✭pawdee


    tobefrank321 wrote: »
    Because we will just import cases for the next month from countries who havent properly locked down.

    A scientist in the UK said today one infected person has the potential to lead to 59,000 other infections.

    You can't slow the spread without turning off the flow of new cases.

    A year also because that's the soonest we'll have a vaccine and even that is optimistic.

    The Chinese must be scratching their heads at our joke of a lockdown where people can come in and leave anytime they want.

    They can be scratching their wholes for all I care.


  • #1428
    namloc1980
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,449 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Logan Roy wrote: »
    So enlighten us?

    No thanks.


  • #1429
    Mervyn Skidmore
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,210 ✭✭✭Mervyn Skidmore


    omerin wrote: »
    Can someone please explain to me why the **** are guards shopping, collecting prescriptions and making deliveries? I equate it to nurses and doctors cleaning the floors in hospitals, why are they wasting their time on meaninless activities, activities that should be done through the shops, chemists or communities. It is a waste of their manpower, when they should be strategically planning for what is to come.

    I honestly couldnt believe it when i saw the picture of 2 guards in a shop, if we werent in such dire times i would have laughed.

    What do you mean by strategically planning for what is to come? What is coming that requires extra policing? The reality is that they are state employees that can be utilised in a number of ways.


  • #1430
    jprender
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,428 ✭✭✭jprender


    Sono Topolino wrote: »
    In my neighbourhood, due to the volume of people and width of the paths, maintaining social distancing is impossible.

    Grand.

    So in your neighbourhood, due to the volume of people and width of the paths, you think it’s a good idea to stay home

    That doesn’t mean it should apply to the whole friggin country.


  • #1431
    ChikiChiki
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    sideswipe wrote: »
    To be fair there were some major projections announced by The ERSI today. This is an unprecedented event in all our lifetimes, the human cost is obviously tragic and deserves the majority of our attention but one day this will be over and the very future of our economic futures is at a massive crossroads. We should be allowed discuss it.

    And we will rebuild. But humans need to come first.


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  • #1432
    Hurrache
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,381 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    The Black Oil wrote: »
    No, it was a far left/PBP amendment.

    https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1243262354776883201

    So giving them squatters rights anywhere they pull into. That's ridiculous.


  • #1433
    timmy_mallet
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,165 ✭✭✭timmy_mallet


    sideswipe wrote: »
    To be fair there were some major projections announced by The ERSI today. This is an unprecedented event in all our lifetimes, the human cost is obviously tragic and deserves the majority of our attention but one day this will be over and the very future of our economic futures is at a massive crossroads. We should be allowed discuss it.

    And also, he was asked on the specifically talk about the Economy, why would he be talking about the 'humanity' of it all?

    The cost to society should be talked about in conjunction with cases/deaths, it's a parallel concern with equal merit.


  • #1434
    timmy_mallet
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,165 ✭✭✭timmy_mallet


    ChikiChiki wrote: »
    And we will rebuild. But humans need to come first.

    Simple as that, eh?


  • #1435
    Gretas Gonna Get Ya!
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,245 ✭✭✭Gretas Gonna Get Ya!


    Wibbs wrote: »
    My major concern beyond the obvious about this pandemic is when it gets worse in certain regions, moronic hotheads like Trump could kick off an actual war.

    Trump has been anti-war for quite a long time now.

    He has publicly criticised many of the conflicts that the U.S has been involved in... and predicted that they would be disastrous mistakes!

    I'm not saying it's impossible that he could take them into a war... but there are far more dangerous world leaders and nations right now. Russia and China being the biggest of them!


  • #1436
    namloc1980
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,449 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    froog wrote: »
    he's right.

    Yeah the 400k people who'll be on the dole will be spending like there's no tomorrow.


  • #1437
    Quantum Erasure
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,640 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    43 homeless individuals awaiting testing.
    https://twitter.com/AnthonyICHH/status/1243287427374030850?s=20

    i said it before, if it starts spreading in homeless people, a few hotels will have to go into lockdown


  • #1438
    AtomicHorror
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,888 ✭✭✭AtomicHorror


    BorneTobyWilde wrote: »
    And USA has different states, all treated as individual,states that are as big or much bigger than countries in Europe.

    The EU has nothing comparable to the US Federal government to coordinate a union-wide response. A fact which has a lot to do with Euroskeptic resistance to any effort to federalize the EU. So they're really not comparable.

    The US has the edge on the EU for responding to the pandemic and yet every sign we can see in the data suggest they are managing to screw this up horribly.


  • #1439
    Yurt2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    This economist is a looper. *spend* he says...fcuk off.

    Not a fan of O'Brien, think he's a watery economist, but he's probably on the money on this. All European countries and developed economies are going to have to spend like crazy after this is done. The old austerity orthodoxy we were trained into believing is the only path is consigned to history, whether you think the measures were necessary or needlessly harmful.

    The age of austerity and German inspired prudence are over. Fiscal compact will be out the window soon enough.


  • #1440
    BanditLuke
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,600 ✭✭✭BanditLuke


    Mental Mickey wrote: »
    US has second highest numbers GLOBALLY now. On CNN

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bE68xVXf8Kw

    NY is in real trouble. Interesting that the nurse says they are seeing loads of serious cases in the 30-50yo bracket. She's put her job on the line doing this so i think it's worth 5 minutes of everyones time.


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  • #1441
    Hurrache
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,381 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    Sono Topolino wrote: »
    Just don’t. It’s selfish and stupid.

    It's neither ffs.


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