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CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)*OP upd 28/03*

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  • #572
    kingshankly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,018 ✭✭✭kingshankly


    Big jump for Uk today Christ doesn’t Augur well


  • #573
    Gretas Gonna Get Ya!
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,245 ✭✭✭Gretas Gonna Get Ya!


    Deleted User wrote: »
    It's already been used for treatment. It's just an off-label use.

    Yes, I know.

    It needs FDA approval.


  • #574
    screamer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,193 ✭✭✭screamer


    UK lighting up now, next Italy in the making unfortunately. I just hope we’ve done enough to not be next, it’s like the turning of the titanic this one.... squeaky bum time and we just have to wait and see


  • #575
    spookwoman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    Seamai wrote: »
    I'm all for not dropping our guard for one moment but a week ago we were being told that we could have 15,000 cases by the last day of March, worse case scenario at this point would be less than half that, if the are now telling us a surge is due and it fails to materialise people might start to ignore further warnings.

    40k+ tried to get swabbed and they changed the goal posts we really don't know how many are infected as there are only about 2k being tested a day


  • #576
    [Deleted User]
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    AtomicHorror wrote: »
    There's no "just" about off label use. They're a specially-monitored class of cases in pharmacovigilance, on account of the higher risks.

    Aye. The consultant takes responsibility for any adverse events. An off label use would/should only be initiated by a consultant. All I'm suggesting is there is no barrier for this been initiated by a consultant. So DT is not inventing the wheel here.


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  • #577
    voluntary
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 871 ✭✭✭voluntary


    What time are HSE announcements these days?


  • #578
    Ipso
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭Ipso


    A couple interesting graphics on the spread of the virus
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/coronavirus-charts-and-maps-that-explain-the-outbreak-222229834.html


  • #579
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    woohoo!!! wrote: »
    Anyone else had enough of the memes, the let's do something 'entertaining' on day xi of quarantine and stick it online etc?

    No. There’s space for some humour amidst the incessant gloom


  • #580
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 8,647 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Gretas Gonna Get Ya! wrote: »
    Yes, I know.

    It needs FDA approval.

    FDA approval is not needed in Ireland.


  • #581
    Ipso
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭Ipso


    Seamai wrote: »
    I'm all for not dropping our guard for one moment but a week ago we were being told that we could have 15,000 cases by the last day of March, worse case scenario at this point would be less than half that, if the are now telling us a surge is due and it fails to materialise people might start to ignore further warnings.

    That’s the problem with these things. If they went all out at the start and it didn’t materialise, there goes future credibility.


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  • #582
    Fr_Dougal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,166 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    kingshankly wrote: »
    Big jump for Uk today Christ doesn’t Augur well

    It’s nothing compared to what they’ll be facing this time next week.


  • #583
    AtomicHorror
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,888 ✭✭✭AtomicHorror


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Aye. The consultant takes responsibility for any adverse events. An off label use would/should only be initiated by a consultant. All I'm suggesting is there is no barrier for this been initiated by a consultant. So DT is not inventing the wheel here.

    It's not appropriate for a politician to make statements like that when the data is so inconclusive. Medics are entitled to make a call, he is not.


  • #584
    whiskeyman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,564 ✭✭✭✭whiskeyman


    smallfryy wrote: »
    So are we looking like we're gonna be okay overall?
    I haven't seen any massive surges in our figures, thankfully! Does this mean we're probably going to be okay if we continue to maintain social distancing and stay at home unless essential?
    Or does it just mean we haven't really started to see the impact yet?
    It's a mental rollercoaster tbh, something's I read seem really positive. Then others are grim! I don't know what way to think or feel at all.


    I heard someone ask similar... 'are we out of the woods yet?'

    We've barely just entered the shadow of the trees.

    Holohan showed the other night were just starting on the curve upwards.

    And it will go upwards.


  • #585
    [Deleted User]
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    Xertz wrote: »
    Bear in mind it has a 14 day incubation period, so the lockdown results may only be seen in next few days. The current cases could well be result of activity a couple of weeks ago or more.

    Up to 14 days, typically 5 or 6 days.


  • #586
    AtomicHorror
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,888 ✭✭✭AtomicHorror


    Deleted User wrote: »
    FDA approval is not needed in Ireland.

    EMA or else HPRA approval is though.


  • #587
    skimpydoo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,074 ✭✭✭skimpydoo


    Why don't the HSE just have their press briefing at 20:45 every day? Or am I stating the bleeding obvious?


  • #588
    [Deleted User]
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    whiskeyman wrote: »
    Holohan showed the other night were just starting on the curve upwards.

    And it will go upwards.

    Holohan was wrong last night. We have well flattened the curve already. Countries that had their first death the same day as us are in FAR worse shape than we are. Even NI has more deaths than us with 1/3 the population.


  • #589
    Computer Science Student
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 225 ✭✭Computer Science Student


    spookwoman wrote: »
    40k+ tried to get swabbed and they changed the goal posts we really don't know how many are infected as there are only about 2k being tested a day

    Exactly, we need at least some random sampling. We haven't a clue where we are at.


  • #590
    ChikiChiki
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Holohan was wrong last night. We have well flattened the curve already.

    No we haven't. Such nonsense.


  • #591
    AtomicHorror
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    Holohan was wrong last night. We have well flattened the curve already.

    We really don't know that. The signs are good, but it's early days.


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  • #592
    bilston
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,009 ✭✭✭✭bilston


    MD1990 wrote: »
    over 700 deaths for Italy again.

    Their lockdown is not going well at all.

    It could take up to 6 weeks for deaths to greatly reduce from the lockdown starting.


  • #593
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    bennyl10 wrote: »
    They are starting to stabilise

    The lockdown is starting to plateau their graph.

    Although they are so far gone.

    Deaths in Bergamo seem to have fallen sharply according to a chart posted a couple of pages back. Lockdown working there at least it seems. I’d say its deaths rising in other regions that are keeping up the rates.


  • #594
    Fr_Dougal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,166 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    skimpydoo wrote: »
    Why don't the HSE just have their press briefing at 20:45 every day? Or am I stating the bleeding obvious?

    I’d imagine they have more pressing things to tend to than giving press briefings.


  • #595
    Gretas Gonna Get Ya!
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,245 ✭✭✭Gretas Gonna Get Ya!


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Aye. The consultant takes responsibility for any adverse events. An off label use would/should only be initiated by a consultant. All I'm suggesting is there is no barrier for this been initiated by a consultant. So DT is not inventing the wheel here.

    I never said he was re-inventing the wheel...

    He's being aggressive, to try to bring a drug mainstream that could potentially help a lot of people. I like his aggressive approach.

    Hopefully it's successful. :)


  • #596
    bilston
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,009 ✭✭✭✭bilston


    screamer wrote: »
    UK lighting up now, next Italy in the making unfortunately. I just hope we’ve done enough to not be next, it’s like the turning of the titanic this one.... squeaky bum time and we just have to wait and see

    UK figures not moving as fast as Italy's.

    It's still bad and will get much worse, but they aren't following the same curve as Italy in terms of deaths.


  • #597
    Cork Boy 53
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    Holohan was wrong last night. We have well flattened the curve already. Countries that had their first death the same day as us are in FAR worse shape than we are.

    Absolute rubbish. This is just the start of the surge for Ireland.


  • #598
    CIARAN_BOYLE
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    Up to 14 days, typically 5 or 6 days.

    Outliers have been observed upto 27 days.

    14 is a catch all to cover the majority.


  • #599
    SleetAndSnow
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,754 ✭✭✭SleetAndSnow


    Looks like there was actually 712 deaths in Italy :(

    https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1243238547940872192?s=20


  • #600
    citysights
    Closed Accounts Posts: 288 ✭✭citysights


    AtomicHorror wrote: »
    We really don't know that. The signs are good, but it's early days.

    Absolutely, early days, but we should take no chances.


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  • #601
    Jinglejangle69
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,131 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    bilston wrote: »
    UK figures not moving as fast as Italy's.

    It's still bad and will get much worse, but they aren't following the same curve as Italy in terms of deaths.

    They are massaging their figures because they know they made a monumental **** up.


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