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CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)*OP upd 28/03*

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  • #212
    Boggles
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    Thelonious Monk wrote: »
    Yeah it's just weird that every other country seems to have army with guns on the streets and empty city centres, i dont get why we are an outlier.

    Because we haven't had to convert ice rinks into morgues.

    Be happy we don't have them on the streets, it means we are in trouble if they are.


  • #213
    Naggdefy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,981 ✭✭✭Naggdefy


    Thelonious Monk wrote: »
    Yeah it's just weird that every other country seems to have army with guns on the streets and empty city centres, i dont get why we are an outlier.

    They're too busy recording Ultimate Special Forces Hell Week:D


  • #214
    Rob A. Bank
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭Rob A. Bank


    Distribution of COVID-19 cases worldwide, as of 26 March 2020

    novel-coronavirus-distribution-cases-worldwide-26-march-2020.jpg?itok=ZPahCKvr

    Blue = China, Orange = Rest of the world

    I remember a time when we thought the Chinese numbers were bad.

    Looks like uncontrolled exponential growth in the rest of the world now.

    :-(

    Larger version here :- https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/geographical-distribution-2019-ncov-cases


  • #215
    shesty
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,917 Mod ✭✭✭✭shesty


    Varadkar said in some speech or another that we don't rule with arms in this country - which we don't....and they intend to keep it that way.
    Look, whether it's "right" or "wrong" ( and really, what is these days) I don't know,but I can see the logic of where he is coming from.


  • #216
    Hurrache
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,381 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    whiskeyman wrote: »
    Same.
    I just walked to the shop at lunchtime, but far more cars out on the road.
    The Government must be aware of ultimately how we behave, which is why they know they can't enforce a 'lockdown'.

    We're not in a lockdown anyway - just a range of various measures needed to slow the spread of the virus.

    The streets of the city have been relatively empty since Paddy's day, definitely not far more cars on the road.


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  • #217
    kingshankly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,019 ✭✭✭kingshankly


    is_that_so wrote: »
    Leo's speech was 11 days ago.

    Was two weeks ago today


  • #218
    tikkahunter
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    Back from a test in Croke Park , absolute clockwork and ran with minimal fuss .


  • #219
    cloudatlas
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    shocksy wrote: »
    Exactly my point. It is far too late for the UK now. What's about to come their way can't be stopped now. However, if we close our borders from them we at least have some hope, otherwise we're importing all these cases that are going to explode in the coming days.

    Community spread is already occuring in Ireland. The WHO said that concentrating on stopping flights is not important at this stage, not that there are many flights if at all. The first case of coronavirus in Northern Ireland came from the Republic. Looks like they should have closed the border to the South.


  • #220
    Snow Garden
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    Red for Danger wrote: »
    How relevant is panic buying discussion in the face of whats coming.
    It more an online thing in that the discussion/memes jokes about the thing was bigger than the thing itself

    Because the panic buying was exactly what the virus needed to spread exponentially. Crowded shops with frantic people falling over each other to grab and paw food - senseless idiocy. For absolutely no reason too, the shelves are still fully stocked. It also scared old people who are the most vulnerable. We will never know how much transmission was done during the panic days around the ides of March. Wibbs and a few others here did their best to warn people of the futility and danger.


  • #221
    Rob A. Bank
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    AllGunsBlazing wrote: »
    It looks like the exodus of people fleeing the north of Italy has now begun a second wave of infections in the south.

    Very worrying... The health infrastructure in the south of Italy is poor, compared to the North. Another disaster in the making.


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  • #222
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    kingshankly wrote: »
    Was two weeks ago today
    You mean the first one? I'm talking about the big one to the nation.


  • #223
    Duke of Url
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,662 ✭✭✭Duke of Url


    tikkahunter wrote: »
    Back from a test in Croke Park , absolute clockwork and ran with minimal fuss .

    What symptoms are you suffering?


  • #224
    Xertz
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    Thelonious Monk wrote: »
    Yeah it's just weird that every other country seems to have army with guns on the streets and empty city centres, i dont get why we are an outlier.

    Honestly, despite all of our moaning about ourselves and navel gazing about 'only in Ireland' we are actually a very socially cohesive country and never relied on a presence of heavy handed policing or anything like that to keep order.

    We tend to just be rather capable of being cooperative and getting on with things without much fuss and there isn't a big scary government trying to sit on stuff.

    I'm not saying there's no element of scumbags - of course we do, but compared to a lot of places, it's not a case of Robocop style policing keeping a lid on what would otherwise melt into chaos. You certainly get the sense that a lot o US and even some continental cities are far more like that.

    Our normally poor planning and lack of dependence on public transport may also be playing some role in this too. Other than a few narrow tight spots in the bigger cities, we have relatively low density housing and a lot of garden space and so on, which is probably keeping us able to self isolate a lot more easily than most, particularly when you compare to to say Spain or Italy where apartment living is normal and communal spaces are used a lot more than here.

    I mean if you think about it, most of us do actually live in suburban houses, not apartments and most of us can actually self isolate quite easily in those. There's self contained space, green space and so on to use. Also, while the average size of new build apartments here is too small, the average size of dwelling overall is quite large by EU standards.

    Even if you've a small back garden here, it's going to keep you sanely able to isolate yourself a bit and keep the kids entertained.


  • #225
    Snow Garden
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    tikkahunter wrote: »
    Back from a test in Croke Park , absolute clockwork and ran with minimal fuss .

    Did they use Hawkeye? Ta or Nil?


  • #226
    AllGunsBlazing
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    tikkahunter wrote: »
    Back from a test in Croke Park , absolute clockwork and ran with minimal fuss .

    How long before a result?

    Hoping it's a negative for you as well.


  • #227
    cloudatlas
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    shocksy wrote: »
    Regardless of restrictions in place, we are continuing to allow flights into Ireland from Hotspots, the UK being the main one. Until a stop is put to imported cases we will continue to have more confirmed cases. Its scandalous that we still have open borders with the UK which will be an absolute cluster**** in a couple of weeks. The government truly f*cked up there because they were weak and always have been, and hopefully when things improve they will be held accountable for their f*ck up.

    First case in Northern Ireland came via Dublin. 'Chief medical officer Dr Michael McBride said the adult had travelled from northern Italy via Dublin'.


  • #228
    kingshankly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,019 ✭✭✭kingshankly


    is_that_so wrote: »
    You mean the first one? I'm talking about the big one to the nation.

    That’s when schools closed


  • #229
    FVP3
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    Thelonious Monk wrote: »
    Yeah it's just weird that every other country seems to have army with guns on the streets and empty city centres, i dont get why we are an outlier.

    The city centre is pretty empty.


  • #230
    pawdee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 558 ✭✭✭pawdee


    shocksy wrote: »
    There is a huge majority of them that are disgusting anyway.

    I seen 8 or 9 of them yesterday all huddled up at lunchtime, laughing, joking, hugging and play fighting. Absolute fools, showing complete disregard to social distancing.

    How was their grammar and diction? Any observations you could share?


  • #231
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    https://twitter.com/SimonHarrisTD/status/1243179742087569408?s=20


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  • #232
    Cork Boy 53
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    Naggdefy wrote: »
    I think a real problem in 2 weeks by the Easter Weekend will be lockdown fatigue. If that corresponds with 16-20C weather it will be hard to keep people at home.

    If you haven`t done so already take a look at M.T.`s forecast thread in the Weather forums and you will see that he is predicting something along those lines for the Easter weekend.


  • #233
    Cee-Jay-Cee
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    jamesf85 wrote: »
    The Spanish economy won't last another 2 months of complete lockdown. Not only will their health servicefail, but the ar*e will fall out of their entire economy.

    Same for airlines, none of them will be in business if this continues for 2 more months

    I don't get this part. Airlines should have huge reserves, especially the national airlines. Why should they go out of business? They aren't flying and so their overheads should be very small (in comparison to when in full operation) Basically the business sits dormant till this is over and then starts up again. I think there is too much over dramatization of the fall out in relation to businesses. 95% of businesses should be able to start again afterwards, its not like the world or countries populations are going to disappear.


  • #234
    caveat emptor
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    Spook_ie wrote: »
    To be fair, the Brits weren't the ones travelling from Ireland to Cheltenham or Premiership matches, so perhaps that blame should lay on Irish shoulders.

    classic "Field of Dreams" defence. if you build it they will come. :pac:


  • #235
    Snow Garden
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    Duke of Url wrote: »
    What symptoms are you suffering?

    He has a match program rolled up in his hand and he is frothing and screaming profanities at the ref. Your average Tipp fan really.


  • #236
    Cee-Jay-Cee
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    10000maniacs wrote: »
    Darwinism coming to the fore again.

    https://metro.co.uk/2020/03/24/doctor-warns-innocent-people-will-die-coronavirus-challenge__trashed-12450472/

    It should actually be encouraged as there are too many stupid people on the planet, the more we get rid of the better.


  • #237
    Rob A. Bank
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    Spook_ie wrote: »
    To be fair, the Brits weren't the ones travelling from Ireland to Cheltenham or Premiership matches, so perhaps that blame should lay on Irish shoulders.

    That is all water under the bridge at this stage. I am referring to what we can do now to minimize future spread.

    We need to stop the spread at the border from a developing hotspot... otherwise all our social isolation, distancing etc. is just window dressing.


  • #238
    yourdeadwright
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    cloudatlas wrote: »
    First case in Northern Ireland came via Dublin. 'Chief medical officer Dr Michael McBride said the adult had travelled from northern Italy via Dublin'.[/QUOT

    We have know this for weeks ? A women and she got a taxi from airport to Connelly then a train to Belfast ,


  • #239
    Jurgen Klopp
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,807 ✭✭✭Jurgen Klopp


    Lads what are the figures that are being used again.

    What percentage of an entire population is expected to get infected?

    Of the infected number is it 80% are expected with little to mild symptoms?

    Then what is percentage of infected that needs hospital/ICU and deaths?

    Was just trying to number crunch given out pop of 4,983,943


  • #240
    Naggdefy
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    Cork Boy 53 wrote: »
    If you haven`t done so already take a look at M.T.`s forecast thread in the Weather forums and you will see that he is predicting something along those lines for the Easter weekend.

    I have looked at. Being a fortnight away though any little pattern change could bring different weather.


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  • #241
    billybonkers
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    Cee-Jay-Cee wrote: »
    I don't get this part. Airlines should have huge reserves, especially the national airlines. Why should they go out of business? They aren't flying and so their overheads should be very small (in comparison to when in full operation) Basically the business sits dormant till this is over and then starts up again. I think there is too much over dramatization of the fall out in relation to businesses. 95% of businesses should be able to start again afterwards, its not like the world or countries populations are going to disappear.

    Airlines run on extremely small margins and no that's just not how it works or can ever work. Most don't even own their aircraft the lease them and have to continue to do so, they leases warehouse space, fuel storage etc they are highly leveraged and don't have many assets they can sell to prop them up. They are kept going by the bookings being made daily and right now there are none...


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