CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)OP upd 28/03

Hector Savage · 26-03-2020 02:18PM

owlbethere wrote: »

https://www.mpg.de/14610776/immune-boost-corona-virus

This looks very promising and hopefully it will work. Scientists in Germany are looking at the BCG vaccine. Originally its for TB. Studies on mice show it can protect against viral infections of the respiratory tract.

Fingers crossed it works. Although the BCG is not a vaccine against covid19, hopefully it will bridge a gap until a vaccine is available.

And with that bit of positive news, I bow out of this thread for the day - too much doom and gloom lads jaysys!

is_that_so · 26-03-2020 02:18PM

kyote00 wrote: »

BCG vaccine was widely used in Ireland in the 70s/80s in schools, IIRC

Here's another piece on it with a bit less technical detail.

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/industry/healthcare/biotech/pharmaceuticals/serum-institute-to-test-if-tb-vaccine-vpm1002-is-effective-against-covid-19/articleshow/74800246.cms?from=mdr

pjohnson · 26-03-2020 02:18PM

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

The news on about mortuaries already

They will be overwhelmed aswell. We were too late. Not as late as some but still too late for a country this size.

Naggdefy · 26-03-2020 02:19PM

Antares35 wrote: »

No problem with people doing this, provided they are willing to sacrifice their ICU bed for someone who isnt a f*cking neanderthal moron like they are. Why should people who deliberately engage in this kind of behaviour be afforded any kind of medical hep if needed. Keep the resources for those of us who are compliant.

I'd be inclined to meet fire with fire. Give them a dose of their own medicine back. A bit of vigilantism wouldn't go astray to beat some of these neanderthals so badly that they won't behave like this again.

nacho libre · 26-03-2020 02:20PM

Red for Danger wrote: »

You don't have to read the thread
Should i leave so you can read on and comfort yourself

No need. Just process the information you are being given in replies to your posts, which refute your claims that we are days away from finding ourselves in the same situation as Italy.

FVP3 · 26-03-2020 02:21PM

Here's an example of how the curve is being flattened in Italy.

Extrapolations by me.

Wibbs · 26-03-2020 02:23PM

kyote00 wrote: »

BCG vaccine was widely used in Ireland in the 70s/80s in schools, IIRC

It was. I was one of the few of my schoolmates who didn't get the three marks in my upper arm. Can't remember why exactly, but I do remember a doctor saying I didn't need it. Innate immunity? I remember a scratch test of some nature. So I'm probably fecked, or golden, depending on how optimistic I am.

AllGunsBlazing · 26-03-2020 02:23PM

EDit wrote: »

And the UK. I had the “stapler” test, but must have had immunity already as I didn’t need the big needle (and missed out on the big lumpy scar so many people of my generation have)

I remember that back in the 80's, it was a booster as we all got a shot originally as infants.

Shower of bastards were going around the next day punching people in the shoulder.

FVP3 · 26-03-2020 02:24PM

US curve is till mostly exponential but the lockdown there will presumably show in the figures soon enough.

iwillyeah1234 · 26-03-2020 02:26PM

Unlike our scumbags ( who seem hell bent on spreading the virus via "coughing" on Gardai ), in Spain, their scumbags are hell bent on stopping the spread

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8155335/Pensioners-come-attack-coronavirus-evacuation-Spain.html

"Pensioners on coronavirus evacuation buses are pelted with ROCKS in Spain by locals to stop them arriving from virus-affected area"

FVP3 · 26-03-2020 02:28PM

Antares35 wrote: »

No problem with people doing this, provided they are willing to sacrifice their ICU bed for someone who isnt a f*cking neanderthal moron like they are. Why should people who deliberately engage in this kind of behaviour be afforded any kind of medical hep if needed. Keep the resources for those of us who are compliant.

Some are "influencers" and in that case terrorist type laws need to be invoked, as they are encouraging something that will cause death in others ( if not the toilet lickers, people they come into contact with), and generally terrorise the population.

branie2 · 26-03-2020 02:28PM

iwillyeah1234 wrote: »

Unlike our scumbags ( who seem hell bent on spreading the virus via "coughing" on Gardai ), in Spain, their scumbags are hell bent on stopping the spread

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8155335/Pensioners-come-attack-coronavirus-evacuation-Spain.html

"Pensioners on coronavirus evacuation buses are pelted with ROCKS in Spain by locals to stop them arriving from virus-affected area"

They're going about it the wrong way

kowloon · 26-03-2020 02:29PM

Scumbags gonna scum.

Deeper Blue · 26-03-2020 02:29PM

Red for Danger wrote: »

Macron on last night was close to tears as he told country to brace itself the big wave starting in next few days.
He knows whats coming and eventually just like Italy they'll be destroyed,
Supposing the social distancing measures slowed the numbers down to that of half Italy's numbers. It still only buys them a few days and suppose they're twice as well prepared that too only buys them another few days. Best case scenario they hold out a week or 10days longer than the Italians
Ireland is in the same position its only further out out, this time next week you'll know

People have been posting these "ominous" warnings every day for about 2 weeks at this stage. In reality it's pure scaremongering bollocks and ye haven't a clue.

Red for Danger · 26-03-2020 02:29PM

nacho libre wrote: »

No need. Just process the information you are being given in replies to your posts, which refute your claims that we are days away from finding ourselves in the same situation as Italy.

I didn't say that why are you lying?

I'll try again
I dont agree with the term "wave" which is often used
A wave implies something that will pass through and be big or small. And then we're waiting and hoping for a small wave.
Its not something that passes through like that.
Its more like trying the stop a flood the more you block the more it builds up.

The numbers from the other European nations who are further along are day after day. You only get to hold out for a few extra days by being well prepared. Also you you only get an extra few days by flattening the curve.

Gods Gift · 26-03-2020 02:29PM

George Lee is a bit of a doomsday merchant.

Every time I hear him I get depressed.

Cork Boy 53 · 26-03-2020 02:30PM

Mary Lou McDonald on RTE Radio 1 now stating that she is displaying symptoms of the virus.

iwillyeah1234 · 26-03-2020 02:30PM

welcome development in the UK.
Hopefully something similar will be introduced in Ireland.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2020/mar/26/uk-coronavirus-live-news-updates-self-employed-rishi-sunakhospital-car-parking-charges-waived-for-nhs-staff-in-england?page=with:block-5e7ca72a8f0878a2a48aaa19#block-5e7ca72a8f0878a2a48aaa19

'Coronavirus coughing' at emergency workers could lead to two years in jail, says CPS

"The CPS says that using coughing in this way as a threat could lead to someone being charged with common assault. And it says that assaults specifically against emergency workers are punishable by up to two years in prison."

BorneTobyWilde · 26-03-2020 02:31PM

Can't believe over a thousand dead in USA already, they're just at the beginning of this crisis. It will be 50 times worst than 9/11 when finished.

DOCARCH · 26-03-2020 02:32PM

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

Mary Lou McDonald on RTE Radio 1 now stating that she is displaying symptoms of the virus.

I think she (actually) said she had symptoms of a cold.

FVP3 · 26-03-2020 02:32PM

Red for Danger wrote: »

I didn't say that why are you lying?

I'll try again
I dont agree with the term "wave" which is often used
A wave implies something that will pass through and be big or small. And then we're waiting and hoping for a small wave.
Its not something that passes through like that.
Its more like trying the stop a flood the more you block the more it builds up.

The numbers from the other European nations who are further along are day after day. You only get to hold out for a few extra days by being well prepared. Also you you only get an extra few days by flattening the curve.

If you keep the curve flattened the number of people infected peaks at a level the hospitals can handle. That's the idea. Theres no subsequent peak after a peak. That's a contradiction.

The integral below the line of the unflattened or flattened curves is the same. Same number of people infected overall, just in a different timeframe. However in one of them the hospitals can cope, in others they cant.

giveitholly · 26-03-2020 02:33PM

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

Mary Lou McDonald on RTE Radio 1 now stating that she is displaying symptoms of the virus.

On twitter earlier she said she had a head cold,symptoms must be developing rapidly if they are now showing the signs of coronavirus

iwillyeah1234 · 26-03-2020 02:33PM

FVP3 wrote: »

Some are "influencers" and in that case terrorist type laws need to be invoked, as they are encouraging something that will cause death in others ( if not the toilet lickers, people they come into contact with), and generally terrorise the population.

That has happened in Missouri - charged under terrorism laws

https://metro.co.uk/2020/03/25/man-charged-terrorism-licking-supermarket-shelves-mock-coronavirus-12453518/

eagle eye · 26-03-2020 02:35PM

I responded to two people on my phone on the stupid app which isn't supported anymore. It acts like you posted and everything's ok. It was as the old thread which was closed before I responded to them.

iwillyeah1234 · 26-03-2020 02:35PM

branie2 wrote: »

They're going about it the wrong way

yeah i know.

kind of reminds me of those Chinese villages that blocked themselves off a few months ago.

FVP3 · 26-03-2020 02:36PM

DOCARCH wrote: »

I think she (actually) said she had symptoms of a cold.

Could be the USA's Chernobyl moment.

igCorcaigh · 26-03-2020 02:36PM

Beautiful day out there.

Go for a walk in the sun, aware with distance.

Naggdefy · 26-03-2020 02:37PM

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Can't believe over a thousand dead in USA already, they're just at the beginning of this crisis. It will be 50 times worst than 9/11 when finished.

9/11 was very small in terms of deaths, 3,000 or so. America lost more to German U boat sinkings in both World Wars, 3 million approx from flu pandemic of 1918/19 in the US.

893bet · 26-03-2020 02:37PM

iwillyeah1234 wrote: »

Unlike our scumbags ( who seem hell bent on spreading the virus via "coughing" on Gardai ), in Spain, their scumbags are hell bent on stopping the spread

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8155335/Pensioners-come-attack-coronavirus-evacuation-Spain.html

"Pensioners on coronavirus evacuation buses are pelted with ROCKS in Spain by locals to stop them arriving from virus-affected area"

Do you think we should mirror their approach and throw rocks at pensioners?

Prob be proposed in the Dail tonight.

fritzelly · 26-03-2020 02:37PM

DOCARCH wrote: »

I think she (actually) said she had symptoms of a cold.

Still blowing the people voted for us trumpet

CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)*OP upd 28/03*

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CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)OP upd 28/03