AirBnB and COVID19

zell12 · 22-03-2020 5:49am #1

Anyone observe any changes in Galway city centre: An ‘Airbnb town’, due to the Covid19 effect?

pure.conya · 22-03-2020 10:05am

zell12 wrote: »

Anyone observe any changes in Galway city centre: An ‘Airbnb town’, due to the Covid19 effect?

not yet, but the hopefully this crisis helps to reset the balance

Bobeagleburger · 22-03-2020 10:08am

Watch as many properties suddenly spring up as rental properties. Tourism will take a huge hit so should see a lot of properties being freed up to rent.

Knock on affect will be lower rents.

pure.conya · 22-03-2020 10:26am

6 wrote: »

Watch as many properties suddenly spring up as rental properties. Tourism will take a huge hit so should see a lot of properties being freed up to rent.

Knock on affect will be lower rents.

I'm holding onto the glimmer of hope that the knock on effects of all this will go a lot further than reducing rents. its crazy to think that as a society we were totally unable to stop the rat race and allowed things to get so bad for us all. the beginning is near

flazio · 22-03-2020 10:33am

Still seeing ads on Facebook groups for beds in shared rooms. Are they flipping insane?

cefh17 · 22-03-2020 1:10pm

6 wrote: »

Watch as many properties suddenly spring up as rental properties. Tourism will take a huge hit so should see a lot of properties being freed up to rent.

Knock on affect will be lower rents.

I have an alert on daft for the last while, usually around 60-70 properties in Galway for rent (whole home/apartment), shot up to 104 there over the weekend. Could be a coincidence in timing but I doubt it personally

Bobeagleburger · 22-03-2020 1:44pm

cefh17 wrote: »

I have an alert on daft for the last while, usually around 60-70 properties in Galway for rent (whole home/apartment), shot up to 104 there over the weekend. Could be a coincidence in timing but I doubt it personally

Seriously doubt it. Watch that number rise too.

The price gouging landlords day in the sun is over

Mrs OBumble · 22-03-2020 1:50pm

cefh17 wrote: »

I have an alert on daft for the last while, usually around 60-70 properties in Galway for rent (whole home/apartment), shot up to 104 there over the weekend. Could be a coincidence in timing but I doubt it personally

Totally predictable: third level students have gone home, tourists aren't coming. I suspect most will be available for 5.5 month let's

pure.conya · 22-03-2020 4:31pm

6 wrote: »

Seriously doubt it. Watch that number rise too.

The price gouging landlords day in the sun is over

crazy to think we were totally unable to try force the change we all needed so desperately, instead its taken a contagious virus to come along and do it for us

pure.conya · 22-03-2020 4:39pm

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

I suspect most will be available for 5.5 month let's

i have a funny feeling they're in for a shock lol. we're all in for a shock and guess what, we all need a serious shock to get us snapped out of this nonsense society where we're all screwed by the precious system

BeardySi · 22-03-2020 5:36pm

pure.conya wrote: »

crazy to think we were totally unable to try force the change we all needed so desperately, instead its taken a contagious virus to come along and do it for us

The powers that be were totally unwilling...

pure.conya · 23-03-2020 10:12am

BeardySi wrote: »

The powers that be were totally unwilling...

but this pandemic shows us all that we are the powers that be, we work in the supply chain, we operate the service industry, we make everything, not the CEOs or politicians, unless we're willing to show each other solidarity and exercise our collective bargaining then the politicians and the bankers will just ignore and walk all over us

23-03-2020 10:32am

pure.conya wrote: »

but this pandemic shows us all that we are the powers that be, we work in the supply chain, we operate the service industry, we make everything, not the CEOs or politicians, unless we're willing to show each other solidarity and exercise our collective bargaining then the politicians and the bankers will just ignore and walk all over us

"we" can't even control our toilet paper buying habits

ChewyLouie · 23-03-2020 10:49am

Some clear examples on renting groups of Airbnbs dipping their feet back in the rental market in the last few days...

..."We are generally Airbnb hosts but due to Covid19 all bookings have been cancelled for March & April so we have a room going for at least the month of April with a possibility to extend.

Price €600 including bills (wifi, elec, bins)"...

Extortionate pricing though!!

zell12 · 24-03-2020 5:54pm

24/03/20
Daft.ie advertising rentals in Galway City
Room 171
Apt/House 118

Wompa1 · 25-03-2020 2:16pm

This is a lay up for the City council. Get the data from Daft.ie and go after these landlords.

shenanagans · 25-03-2020 10:58pm

Wompa1 wrote: »

This is a lay up for the City council. Get the data from Daft.ie and go after these landlords.

Can't assume they were all airbnb properties. There isn't a student left in the city. Many were possibly students rentals in fairness.

Wompa1 · 25-03-2020 11:09pm

shenanagans wrote: »

Can't assume they were all airbnb properties. There isn't a student left in the city. Many were possibly students rentals in fairness.

It's an assumption based off some logic. For example:

https://www.daft.ie/galway/houses-for-rent/galway-city/saint-bridgets-place-galway-city-galway-2014683/

Listings that offer a short lease that have pictures of folded towels on beds, decorative mugs and soft furnishings etc. are not the usual Daft rentals. Let's face it, the landlords renting to regular people in Galway make f*ck all effort.

Scienceless · 25-03-2020 11:15pm

Wompa1 wrote: »

Let's face it, the landlords renting to regular people in Galway make f*ck all effort.

Wrong. Easy tar all landlords with the same brush, but that statement is bs.

Mrs OBumble · 26-03-2020 1:09am

Scienceless wrote: »

Wrong. Easy tar all landlords with the same brush, but that statement is bs.

+1

Wompa maybe yours does, but mine certainly isn't like that. And many people I know say similar.

Wompa1 · 26-03-2020 1:16am

Scienceless wrote: »

Wrong. Easy tar all landlords with the same brush, but that statement is bs.

How many places have you rented in the city where they had a 43 inch Smart TV or even multiple TVs? I lived in about 11 different places in the city, I don't think I lived in any that even had matching cups, plates and cutlery. Usually a hodge podge of random pub glasses and easter egg mugs.

You can tell by the lease terms, pictures and state of the places whether they were AirBnB, Trip Advisor or not. Where they have made an effort to get a good rating or not. It hasn't exactly been a renter's market. People could get by with doing minimal effort and they did.

There's an ad up for a place on Headford Road where they'll let you have a longer lease but they put the price up 500 a month after May. There are multiple places with towels folded on the beds. If you have experience as a tenant in the city, you'll know the effort in the pictures is not the norm. It's to give a sense of a hotel\villa.

Bobeagleburger · 26-03-2020 3:15am

Air bnb bubble has burst

xckjoo · 26-03-2020 11:00am

Wompa1 wrote: »

How many places have you rented in the city where they had a 43 inch Smart TV or even multiple TVs? I lived in about 11 different places in the city, I don't think I lived in any that even had matching cups, plates and cutlery. Usually a hodge podge of random pub glasses and easter egg mugs.

You can tell by the lease terms, pictures and state of the places whether they were AirBnB, Trip Advisor or not. Where they have made an effort to get a good rating or not. It hasn't exactly been a renter's market. People could get by with doing minimal effort and they did.

There's an ad up for a place on Headford Road where they'll let you have a longer lease but they put the price up 500 a month after May. There are multiple places with towels folded on the beds. If you have experience as a tenant in the city, you'll know the effort in the pictures is not the norm. It's to give a sense of a hotel\villa.

You might be right about all that but it would be hard to prosecute someone based on having matching plates. I guess they could add them to a list, send out (pre?) warning letters and monitor.

zell12 · 26-03-2020 11:06am

xckjoo wrote: »

You might be right about all that but it would be hard to prosecute someone based on having matching plates. I guess they could add them to a list, send out (pre?) warning letters and monitor.

You check if the property was on AirBnB last month and cross-check with Revenue (if legally allowed) if property got income from AirBnB.

xckjoo · 26-03-2020 11:13am

Biggest issue will still be that they need people to do it and that'll involve setting up a team, etc.

zell12 · 26-03-2020 11:21am

zell12 wrote: »

24/03/20
Daft.ie advertising rentals in Galway City
Room 171
Apt/House 118

26/03/20
Daft.ie advertising rentals in Galway City
Room 171
Apt/House 131

26-03-2020 11:26am

6 wrote: »

Air bnb bubble has burst

The whole tourism bubble has burst. We’ve had a form of AirBnB for decades. People taking in guests by word of mouth. It’s only in recent years that whole private properties have been used as short term lets.

shenanagans · 26-03-2020 2:45pm

Wompa1 wrote: »

It's an assumption based off some logic. For example:

https://www.daft.ie/galway/houses-for-rent/galway-city/saint-bridgets-place-galway-city-galway-2014683/

Listings that offer a short lease that have pictures of folded towels on beds, decorative mugs and soft furnishings etc. are not the usual Daft rentals. Let's face it, the landlords renting to regular people in Galway make f*ck all effort.

I'm not fully sure of regulations so correct me if I'm wrong but can a landlord not rent for a limit of 90 days per year on Airbnb?

So could a Galway city landlord rent a property to students from Sept to May and then rent on Airbnb throughout the summer? With 90 day limit.

Totally agree that anyone letting full time on Airbnb should be stopped. The council don't appear to have been enforcing new rules to date. But Corona has certainly but a halt to the Airbnb for the coming months.

flynnlives · 26-03-2020 3:59pm

Wompa1 wrote: »

It's an assumption based off some logic. For example:

https://www.daft.ie/galway/houses-for-rent/galway-city/saint-bridgets-place-galway-city-galway-2014683/

Listings that offer a short lease that have pictures of folded towels on beds, decorative mugs and soft furnishings etc. are not the usual Daft rentals. Let's face it, the landlords renting to regular people in Galway make f*ck all effort.

Note he says its only available for 5 months. He expects this to have passed by then.

Its now a tenants market. I would be looking for a reduction in rent now.
If i was looking for a new place id be looking to sign a lease for 12 months at a minimum.

Its time the greed stopped.

zell12 · 26-03-2020 4:06pm

You also reverse-image search and see how much they charged on AirBnB

Mrs OBumble · 26-03-2020 4:17pm

flynnlives wrote: »

Note he says its only available for 5 months. He expects this to have passed by then.

Or he's only willing to do let's of less than six months so that tenants don't get part 4 rights.

shenanagans · 26-03-2020 4:19pm

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

Or he's only willing to do let's of less than six months so that tenants don't get part 4 rights.

Not such a bright idea to put his name on the ad so....

moceri · 26-03-2020 4:37pm

Wompa1 wrote: »

It's an assumption based off some logic. For example:

https://www.daft.ie/galway/houses-for-rent/galway-city/saint-bridgets-place-galway-city-galway-2014683/

Listings that offer a short lease that have pictures of folded towels on beds, decorative mugs and soft furnishings etc. are not the usual Daft rentals. Let's face it, the landlords renting to regular people in Galway make f*ck all effort.

https://www.airbnb.ie/rooms/27364315?source_impression_id=p3_1585236976_Fd1c0Tzjv1wSdLtH

Seems to have several properties: Galway & Dublin

Mrs OBumble · 26-03-2020 4:45pm

shenanagans wrote: »

Not such a bright idea to put his name on the ad so....

Why? There's nothing illegal about what he's doing. It's an approach favoured by many landlords, because it's so difficult to remove longer term tenantsxwho stop paying.

26-03-2020 5:23pm

Plenty of room for the homeless now. https://www.rte.ie/news/dublin/2020/0325/1126422-dublin-homeless/

shenanagans · 26-03-2020 6:59pm

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

Why? There's nothing illegal about what he's doing. It's an approach favoured by many landlords, because it's so difficult to remove longer term tenantsxwho stop paying.

If he has several properties on Airbnb ...... That is illegal. The council should be able to follow him up. His name is on his daft advertisement and his profile with properties is on Airbnb.

Wompa1 · 27-03-2020 9:44pm

shenanagans wrote: »

I'm not fully sure of regulations so correct me if I'm wrong but can a landlord not rent for a limit of 90 days per year on Airbnb?

So could a Galway city landlord rent a property to students from Sept to May and then rent on Airbnb throughout the summer? With 90 day limit.

Totally agree that anyone letting full time on Airbnb should be stopped. The council don't appear to have been enforcing new rules to date. But Corona has certainly but a halt to the Airbnb for the coming months.

You are right. Landlords are free to short term let for 90 days. I think I said it on a different thread months ago, since the city council have said they don't have the resources to enforce they should outsource it. It would be relatively simple to do. Many, of course are exceeding that 90 days. Or at least they were...

Wompa1 · 27-03-2020 9:51pm

xckjoo wrote: »

You might be right about all that but it would be hard to prosecute someone based on having matching plates. I guess they could add them to a list, send out (pre?) warning letters and monitor.

I wouldn't even bother with warnings. The City Council have said they don't have the resources to enforce so let someone else investigate and pay them what they bring in through fines.

The problem is, they don't really want to solve the problem.

28-03-2020 11:14am

Wompa1 wrote: »

The problem is, they don't really want to solve the problem.

Got a source to back up that nonsensical statement

28-03-2020 12:21pm

Wompa1 wrote: »

I wouldn't even bother with warnings. The City Council have said they don't have the resources to enforce so let someone else investigate and pay them what they bring in through fines.

The problem is, they don't really want to solve the problem.

Really? Did you really expect a clampdown on day one? Investigations had been taking place and planning applications processed and mostly being refused. https://www.rte.ie/news/dublin/2020/0219/1116267-airbnb-dublin-lettings/

Wompa1 · 28-03-2020 5:43pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Really? Did you really expect a clampdown on day one? Investigations had been taking place and planning applications processed and mostly being refused. https://www.rte.ie/news/dublin/2020/0219/1116267-airbnb-dublin-lettings/

The GALWAY city council said they did not have the resources to enforce it. This article is about Dublin and I would have expected them to clamp down from September...legislation was in the works for over 2 years, it came into effect from last summer. They had plenty of time to plan on how they could enforce but they can't enforce, they don't have the resources...

Wompa1 · 28-03-2020 5:56pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Got a source to back up that nonsensical statement

https://connachttribune.ie/owners-of-derelict-corrib-great-southern-hotel-seek-council-support-over-site-redevelopment/

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/financial-services/hotel-meyrick-in-galway-wins-planning-appeal-over-additional-rooms-1.4187842

https://connachttribune.ie/approval-for-new-hotel-in-citys-west-end/

https://connachttribune.ie/hotel-planned-for-site-of-former-laundry/

To quote that arsehole in the RTE debate to the assertion there aren't enough builders to get more houses sooner: "yeah, because they are building hotels"

Their priority is business and catering to tourists. They are driving residents out of the city centre with their action and in most cases, their lack of action.

https://www.rte.ie/news/connacht/2019/0408/1041384-housing-demonstration-galway/

What is it they have done over the last 7 years to help solve the problem.

28-03-2020 7:24pm

Wompa1 wrote: »

https://connachttribune.ie/owners-of-derelict-corrib-great-southern-hotel-seek-council-support-over-site-redevelopment/

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/financial-services/hotel-meyrick-in-galway-wins-planning-appeal-over-additional-rooms-1.4187842

https://connachttribune.ie/approval-for-new-hotel-in-citys-west-end/

https://connachttribune.ie/hotel-planned-for-site-of-former-laundry/

To quote that arsehole in the RTE debate to the assertion there aren't enough builders to get more houses sooner: "yeah, because they are building hotels"

Their priority is business and catering to tourists. They are driving residents out of the city centre with their action and in most cases, their lack of action.

https://www.rte.ie/news/connacht/2019/0408/1041384-housing-demonstration-galway/

What is it they have done over the last 7 years to help solve the problem.

So nothing to back it up, ok, should have just said

Cheshire Cat · 28-03-2020 7:27pm

Have come across this gem repeatedly, it's a short term rental. Now available at an even higher price for the purpose of self isolation.

https://www.daft.ie/22018099

They claim it's Galway City, but that's open to interpretation...

biko · 28-03-2020 7:35pm

Cheshire Cat wrote: »

They claim it's Galway City, but that's open to interpretation...

Yeah, as that house is in Athenry, not Galway city.
Not sure why owner would say something that anyone immediately would find out.

thesandeman · 28-03-2020 10:15pm

biko wrote: »

Yeah, as that house is in Athenry, not Galway city.
Not sure why owner would say something that anyone immediately would find out.

According to the Streetview map provided it's actually in the middle of Eyre Square ON THE GRASS!!

29-03-2020 11:41am

'Self Isolate in comfort, you deserve it.
All group sizes welcome. 2 - 26'
Self Isolate, minimum of two people allowed.

Wompa1 · 29-03-2020 11:49am

Deleted User wrote: »

So nothing to back it up, ok, should have just said

:pac:

You can choose to believe what you want. Continued support for propping up hotels and inaction to deal with short term rentals in the city is proof enough for me. The growing housing list and the last 15 years of their track record is there for all to see.

Sorry, if I hurt your feelings or if you or your family work the council.

shenanagans · 29-03-2020 12:01pm

Cheshire Cat wrote: »

Have come across this gem repeatedly, it's a short term rental. Now available at an even higher price for the purpose of self isolation.

https://www.daft.ie/22018099

They claim it's Galway City, but that's open to interpretation...

Wouldn't be a very effective self isolation if there's 26 people in the house. It's a big house.... But does it have 26 rooms/toilets..... FFS.

This ad should be printed out and posted on every lamp post in Athenry..... Landlord must be local if he can meet and greet 26 potential guests.

It's beside Athenry train station not Eyre Square.

Mrs OBumble · 29-03-2020 5:08pm

thesandeman wrote: »

According to the Streetview map provided it's actually in the middle of Eyre Square ON THE GRASS!!

In fairness, if you just type "Galway" into the location box on lots of systems, it will pick a generic central location like that.

TBH, I'm not quite sure that the outrage over this property being AIRBnB'd is justified. It's not a typical family home, your average renters are not going to be able to afford to heat it, much less rent it.

I'd feel far more ire about entire blocks of 1-2 brm apartments in the Dominick St area being taken out of the regular rental market than this.

shenanagans · 29-03-2020 5:29pm

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

In fairness, if you just type "Galway" into the location box on lots of systems, it will pick a generic central location like that.

TBH, I'm not quite sure that the outrage over this property being AIRBnB'd is justified. It's not a typical family home, your average renters are not going to be able to afford to heat it, much less rent it.

I'd feel far more ire about entire blocks of 1-2 brm apartments in the Dominick St area being taken out of the regular rental market than this.

Should heat itself given he's it down as A1 rated.

AirBnB and COVID19

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