CoVid19 Part X - 1,564 cases ROI (9 deaths) 209 in NI (7 deaths) (25 March) Read OP

Kermit.de.frog · 26-03-2020 12:50AM

Beasty wrote: »

XI beckons - not sure if that's indicative of something akin to Spinal Tap or the General Secretary of the Chinese Communist Party....

...expect a new thread sometime tomorrow

Xi endorses the coming homage to his greatness.

kowloon · 26-03-2020 12:50AM

Klonker · 26-03-2020 12:51AM

kilkenny31 wrote: »

Is it slowly getting to the point where we can start to say Ireland is going to be OK. Look at the growth pattern over the past week and looking at the ICU figures it looks like we will cope with this and hopefully will end up with a death rate similar to the seasonal flu.

Way to early to tell. Look at how Spain spiralled the last week. The vast majority are trying their best with physical distancing which is definetly going to help but how much is the question. We also have the full lock down card to use and although people are screaming at the government to lck down across social media, I think they are timing the measures well.

auspicious · 26-03-2020 12:51AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBB9bA-gXL4

Am I missing something? He's not saying anything we don't already know: The high death rate is more attributed to covid pushing those with underlying conditions beyond their limit, rather than covid just by itself. Okay pollution in Italy, China, but how many people smoke 20/30 a day worldwide?
He says the closure of large gatherings is gross. Surely if we drop all measures now the hospitals will still be full and health staff will still be working in fear, but for a prolonged period.

paul71 · 26-03-2020 12:52AM

branie2 wrote: »

You are right, it's Headfort.

And thats the odd thing about boarding schools, the are residences too. So closing them is not as simple as closing ordinary schools. Many of the pupils are from other countries, so there are still minors in a foriegn country who need to be cared for.

FVP3 · 26-03-2020 12:53AM

givyjoe wrote: »

I and the other poster were referring to Spain. Not Italy.

The guy you were replying to clearly wasn't.

fin12 · 26-03-2020 12:54AM

https://www.echolive.ie/corknews/Parents-threatened-with-violence-by-teens-being-kept-indoors-during-pandemic-bac8e17f-026c-4f7b-be99-c275ae80140f-ds

Parents threatened by violence by teens being kept indoors.

rob316 · 26-03-2020 12:54AM

froog wrote: »

you agree with him that it's business as usual around the world? normal death rates, normal ICU admissions?

Its chaos but there will be as much death and chaos in the economic fallout of this.

paul71 · 26-03-2020 12:55AM

redarmy wrote: »

Gardaí are conducting three criminal investigations into incidents where emergency service employees have been coughed at or spat at in the course of their work.

I read of one teenager being arrested on Monday for coughing at a Gardai, a pair of f***wits also coughed at the minister for health on Monday. Given his medical history that could have had very serious consequences.

fritzelly · 26-03-2020 12:55AM

redarmy wrote: »

Gardaí are conducting three criminal investigations into incidents where emergency service employees have been coughed at or spat at in the course of their work.

Attempted manslaughter charges wouldn't go amiss and if the culprit was not infected then I'm sure they can think of or bring in to law some other charge with a proviso that a bad upbringing has no bearing on sentencing

branie2 · 26-03-2020 12:56AM

fin12 wrote: »

https://www.echolive.ie/corknews/Parents-threatened-with-violence-by-teens-being-kept-indoors-during-pandemic-bac8e17f-026c-4f7b-be99-c275ae80140f-ds

Parents threatened by violence by teens being kept indoors.

That's terrible!

Kermit.de.frog · 26-03-2020 12:56AM

FVP3 wrote: »

The guy you were replying to clearly wasn't.

There is a sign of slowdown in Italian new cases and a slight slowdown in deaths but before popping champagne today was the third highest death toll so far. It will be several days of more significant decline before it can be said a corner has been turned.

givyjoe · 26-03-2020 12:57AM

FVP3 wrote: »

The guy you were replying to clearly wasn't.

Go back and read again, re: the original post. We were not talking about Italy. Again, we the original stupid post accused the poster of scaremongering re: the alarming FACTUAL rise in deaths in Spain.

spookwoman · 26-03-2020 12:58AM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

There is a sign of slowdown in Italian new cases and a slight slowdown in deaths but before popping champagne today was the third highest death toll so far. It will be several days of more significant decline before it can be said a corner has been turned.

Hospitals overloaded etc and so many dying at home don't know the true scale

1800_Ladladlad · 26-03-2020 12:58AM

These parasites will only lap up the attention. Cretin

https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1242630562285670400

STB. · 26-03-2020 12:59AM

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

There is a shortage all over the world.

Every country is trying to get them.

Were not unique.

Only so much can be produced in a time of worldwide universal crisis.

There will be a shortage of every essential item soon.

We are unique. Our health system is not up to the same standards as other countries due to generations of not fixing it. We knew about this pandemic well in advance.

The HSE did not order enough in February of the basic PPE and Testing Equipment. The community testing regime has been abandoned as a result.

The first batch of a 28m shipment was clearly dithered about, but is now due on Friday (according to the HSE PR manager) a full month into the pandemic here.

247 healthcare staff have been infected, that's a large percentage of the medical staff to play russian roulette with. Its such an issue that they have taken to social media to get protective gear, because their employer has failed in their duties.

And please don't try and trivialise this matter, This is not an amateur debating society.

26-03-2020 01:00AM

paul71 wrote: »

I read of one teenager being arrested on Monday for coughing at a Gardai, a pair of f***wits also coughed at the minister for health on Monday. Given his medical history that could have had very serious consequences.

and this is the type of vermin that will be looking for hospital care if they are struck down with this virus.

paul71 · 26-03-2020 01:00AM

1800_Ladladlad wrote: »

These parasites will only lap up the attention. Cretin

https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1242630562285670400

That guy actually looks like an Irish scoobie....

Cork_Langer1 · 26-03-2020 01:02AM

redarmy wrote: »

Gardaí are conducting three criminal investigations into incidents where emergency service employees have been coughed at or spat at in the course of their work.

Whatever about the spiting, but you can't stop a cough, only block it, why are they getting so close, they can't ask us to social distance, while not doing it themselves.

fin12 wrote: »

https://www.echolive.ie/corknews/Parents-threatened-with-violence-by-teens-being-kept-indoors-during-pandemic-bac8e17f-026c-4f7b-be99-c275ae80140f-ds

Parents threatened by violence by teens being kept indoors.

Smells of we need more resources kinda ****e.

Some Irish media outlets have gone to ****e.

1wizards sleeve · 26-03-2020 01:03AM

Same people who clog up A and E must have decided to **** around with the testing facilities. 40000 people waiting to be tested. At current figures 37600 will have nothing. I'm all for lots of testing but this is just madness. I would imagine every hypochondriac in Ireland has rang up their gp with imaginary symptoms.

Mervyn Skidmore · 26-03-2020 01:03AM

STB. wrote: »

We are unique. Our health system is not up to the same standards as other countries due to generations of not fixing it. We knew about this pandemic well in advance.

The HSE did not order enough in February of the basic PPE and Testing Equipment. The community testing regime has been abandoned as a result.

The first batch of a 28m shipment was clearly dithered about, but is now due on Friday (according to the HSE PR manager) a full month into the pandemic here.

247 healthcare staff have been infected, that's a large percentage of the medical staff to play russian roulette with. Its such an issue that they have taken to social media to get protective gear, because their employer has failed in their duties.

And please don't try and trivialise this matter, This is not an amateur debating society.

I never knew you had to be a seasoned professional debater to post on boards.

extra gravy · 26-03-2020 01:05AM

fin12 wrote: »

https://www.echolive.ie/corknews/Parents-threatened-with-violence-by-teens-being-kept-indoors-during-pandemic-bac8e17f-026c-4f7b-be99-c275ae80140f-ds

Parents threatened by violence by teens being kept indoors.

That's a reflection on the parents more than the teenagers.

NasserShammaz · 26-03-2020 01:06AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

and this is the type of vermin that will be looking for hospital care if they are struck down with this virus.

Henna tattoo on the face Indicating that they have deliberately tried to infect an other and medical care is denied automatically, it should last about 5 weeks even with washing and decent people living in their communities will also see what skum they are, or the could stay indoors for 5 weeks either will do..

FVP3 · 26-03-2020 01:06AM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

There is a sign of slowdown in Italian new cases and a slight slowdown in deaths but before popping champagne today was the third highest death toll so far. It will be several days of more significant decline before it can be said a corner has been turned.

It doesn't need days of significant decline to see that an exponential trend is slowing significantly or stalled.

Exponential trends by their nature keep going. If a rate of increase is doubling every few days, it is exponential, if it stagnates it isn't. Of course the future may be different, but for now the trend is significantly slowing.

Had Italian cases followed the trend of even a few weeks ago, then they would have 1M known cases now.

In particular for cases rather than deaths ( which are a lagging indicator), the trend has been slowing for a while.

New Home · 26-03-2020 01:07AM

FVP3 wrote: »

the problem is that lots of people, not just you, dont understand the nature of exponential growth or when it stops.

A few weeks ago at a family gathering I told my family that millions could die worldwide ( and in two months) and they laughed. They are now panicking just as the exponential nature of the growth declines in most countries.

Which doesn't mean cases wont increase for a while, but the rate of growth has dropped.

Of course getting back to normal is a whole other problem.

I wasn't objecting to the slowing down in growth. I was disagreeing with this part.

kilkenny31 wrote: »

Is it slowly getting to the point where we can start to say Ireland is going to be OK. Look at the growth pattern over the past week and looking at the ICU figures it looks like we will cope with this and hopefully will end up with a death rate similar to the seasonal flu.

It's not hit us full force, yet.

froog · 26-03-2020 01:07AM

rob316 wrote: »

Its chaos but there will be as much death and chaos in the economic fallout of this.

that's true. but that's not the guys point. his point is there is literally nothing to see here. that we could go about business as usual and there would not be obscenely high death rates around the world. when we know that is not the case. completely unchecked, this thing would kill 10s of millions of people. and that's a very low estimate. a minimum.

best case mortality rate: let's say 1%
with swine flu like controls that happened in 2009 - this thing easily infects 20% of the worlds population. (swine flu numbers, with lots of action by countries)

that's 15 million deaths.

with no controls at all? business as usual?

easily 50% of world's population.

38.5 million deaths.

if the mortality rate is 2, 3, 4% etc well... you can do the math.

FVP3 · 26-03-2020 01:08AM

By the way on the subject of beds and trolleys, isn't a lot of the reduction because all elective surgeries have been cancelled.

Maestro85 · 26-03-2020 01:08AM

ArchXStanton wrote: »

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Jinglejangle69 · 26-03-2020 01:09AM

FVP3 wrote: »

By the way on the subject of beds and trolleys, isn't a lot of the reduction because all elective surgeries have been cancelled.

Link?

galaxy12 · 26-03-2020 01:09AM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

There is a sign of slowdown in Italian new cases and a slight slowdown in deaths but before popping champagne today was the third highest death toll so far. It will be several days of more significant decline before it can be said a corner has been turned.

Thought this is great it doesn't mean much as the numbers would again spiral without the lockdown .It does but them time until we kicks in and there is a slowdown hopefully

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CoVid19 Part X - 1,564 cases ROI (9 deaths) 209 in NI (7 deaths) (25 March) Read OP