CoVid19 Part X - 1,564 cases ROI (9 deaths) 209 in NI (7 deaths) (25 March) Read OP

Blaze420 · 25-03-2020 03:06PM

crossman47 wrote: »

I haven't read all this thread but has anyone mentioned that a couple coughed into the face of Simon Harris as he walked to his department and then ran away laughing. Despicable. He mentioned it in his news conference earlier.

Yep I posted it just a while ago. (Un)official advice is if you see it happen, beat the person non stop until they start seizing or a parent shows up - then beat the ****ing head off them as well for not swallowing. If you are still going, wait for the gardai to show up and give a gentle tug on your arm to stop beating said person to a pulp.

is_that_so · 25-03-2020 03:07PM

bekker wrote: »

What is the purpose of the testing programme, both original and as modified and modified?

If it is ,

to evaluate the extent of penetration of the virus then statistically valid, repeated randomised testing of the population the best answer.

to identify and rapidly treat those who are displaying symptoms of serious reaction then fast GP triaging, fast testing and fast processing.

to test the cohort who are statistically most vulnerable then selection by existing medical record is the best answer, but to test 400,000+?

to reassure the population then the present strategy seems to be effective, but meaningless as a strategy for any of the above.

This a repost from yesterday but when I came on today it appears the testing issue has resurfaced, interestingly nobody here seems to discern any objective for the testing other than the last one.

Testing health workers and in hospital patients is a separate issue and being handle by the new in-house hospital.

I think it's to find a lot more cases and to remove an awful lot of people from testing who don't need it. The winter flu' programme gets 40% positive in tests.

otnomart · 25-03-2020 03:07PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Yes, but Italy has multi-generational families living under the one roof and/or keeping in very close contact. Its another factor working against them to keep in mind.

Dublin and London do have people sharing and living under one roof though.

25-03-2020 03:08PM

US2 wrote: »

Yeah that's me. Managed to do a bit of fishing with all symptoms too

So you also went to work two days ago whilst symptomatic with all the signs of COVID-19? Deary me. Well done on been part of the problem, Typhoid Mary.

growleaves · 25-03-2020 03:08PM

A recent interview with Professor Dr Sucharit Bhakdi, an infectious medicine specialist. Professor Bhakdi is one of the most highly cited medical research scientists in Germany. He was head of the Institute for Medical Microbiology at the Johannes Gutenberg University of Mainz.

Please watch the video all the way to the end before commenting.

(One further point left out of the closed captions is that the apparent mortality rate in England is 0.3% at 1:39 to 1:43 in the video).

joe_99 · 25-03-2020 03:08PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1242814082874572800?s=20

Excellent news. Well done Aer Lingus and the pilots

An Ciarraioch · 25-03-2020 03:09PM

If a home testing kit is being rolled out in the UK next week, presumably it'll also be licensed here?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/25/uk-coronavirus-mass-home-testing-to-be-made-available-within-days

is_that_so · 25-03-2020 03:09PM

SDKev wrote: »

PPE equipment is readily available in China, you could have it here within a few days

By Sunday there'll be an order arriving they said.

New Home · 25-03-2020 03:09PM

Blaze420 wrote: »

Yep I posted it just a while ago. (Un)official advice is if you see it happen, beat the person non stop until they start seizing or a parent shows up - then beat the ****ing head off them as well for not swallowing. If you are still going, wait for the gardai to show up and give a gentle tug on your arm to stop beating said person to a pulp.

Probably not the best advice to follow... call the Gardaí and do that ^^^ inside your head instead.

NaiveMelodies · 25-03-2020 03:09PM

The vital PPE gear that's currently required for frontline staff is NOT readily available from China. It's being snapped up before being ready. Lots of back orders.
If anyone can source IIR masks let me know.

Jim_Hodge · 25-03-2020 03:09PM

A good graphic on how we can help slow this down

https://www.rte.ie/news/newslens/2020/0325/1126323-graphic-illustrates-importance-of-social-distancing/

Bob24 · 25-03-2020 03:10PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

Didn't your mother ever tell you to not worry about what other people do. Onus is on you to behave responsibly.

And the connection to my post you quoted?

joe_99 · 25-03-2020 03:10PM

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

It makes it looks like there is PPE available to him, but that the Government won't buy it. So weird that you have celebrities like Ronaldo saying things like '' I'm buying 10000 ventilators '' when no one else can buy one!

Seems so crazy.

Exactly. Money is not the problem it's availability

the.red.baron · 25-03-2020 03:10PM

flynnlives wrote: »

explain the dramatic drop in A&E numbers?

I bet given access we would see a dramatic drop in referral letters to them.

There is simply no other explaination then less referrals from gp's to them.

i've been in A&E Twice never referred by a GP

explain that

is_that_so · 25-03-2020 03:11PM

An Ciarraioch wrote: »

If a home testing kit is being rolled out in the UK next week, presumably it'll also be licensed here?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/25/uk-coronavirus-mass-home-testing-to-be-made-available-within-days

That's a question for Holohan and Co. Their approach so far suggests probably not.

JP Liz V1 · 25-03-2020 03:11PM

kowloon wrote: »

I wonder how coughing on someone purposely would go down with the Gardai, is it a form of assault?

Was someone in the US arrested for terrorism for doing it

TheAsYLuMkeY · 25-03-2020 03:12PM

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

It makes it looks like there is PPE available to him, but that the Government won't buy it. So weird that you have celebrities like Ronaldo saying things like '' I'm buying 10000 ventilators '' when no one else can buy one!

Seems so crazy.

If Leo can go up in credits wit me after his national address, then so can conor mcgregor.

Fair play to him if he is doing that, i dont see any news stories about Denis O'Brien, Jp mcmanus, Larry Goodman doing the same.

CIARAN_BOYLE · 25-03-2020 03:12PM

flynnlives wrote: »

explain the dramatic drop in A&E numbers?

I bet given access we would see a dramatic drop in referral letters to them.

There is simply no other explaination then less referrals from gp's to them.

Routine procedures were cancelled. These resources were used to clear A&E. Many people in A&E are kept in as a way 5o force to the top of the que for things that can be done with routine resources.

the.red.baron · 25-03-2020 03:12PM

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

It makes it looks like there is PPE available to him, but that the Government won't buy it. So weird that you have celebrities like Ronaldo saying things like '' I'm buying 10000 ventilators '' when no one else can buy one!

Seems so crazy.

I'm buying a millions ventilators

Xertz · 25-03-2020 03:12PM

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

It makes it looks like there is PPE available to him, but that the Government won't buy it. So weird that you have celebrities like Ronaldo saying things like '' I'm buying 10000 ventilators '' when no one else can buy one!

Seems so crazy.

The problem isn’t one of money. It’s a supply chain issue. We’ve never, ever, ever needed this volume of PPE and ventilators and there isn’t the capacity to make them in the normal supply chain. Ventilators are also highly complex, almost hand built machines that typically are not made on the scale of consumer appliances or something like that.

Adapting other companies to produce them is possible, but it’s a massive challenge to get something that technical, that’s all about extreme detailing and so on onto different kind of production line.

I’ve no doubt companies will try to do it, and may succeed to some degree but this isn’t a money issue. It’s a hard limit of what can actually be done.

PPE, in general, however isn’t that technically complex except maybe for filtration systems, and the entire garment production resources of the planet need to go into it for a while if we’re going to have the amounts we need.

circadian · 25-03-2020 03:13PM

the.red.baron wrote: »

I'm buying a millions ventilators

I'm buying 5 million.

is_that_so · 25-03-2020 03:13PM

the.red.baron wrote: »

i've been in A&E Twice never referred by a GP

explain that

It's a general comment that quite a number of people who go to A&E do not need to be there.

Tacitus Kilgore · 25-03-2020 03:13PM

TheAsYLuMkeY wrote: »

If Leo can go up in credits wit me after his national address, then so can conor mcgregor.

Fair play to him if he is doing that, i dont see any news stories about Denis O'Brien, Jp mcmanus, Larry Goodman doing the same.

I'd say he's too raging his hospitals are being used for the common good to be able to speak in public.

STB. · 25-03-2020 03:14PM

is_that_so wrote: »

I think it's to find a lot more cases and to remove an awful lot of people from testing who don't need it. The winter flu' programme gets 40% positive in tests.

You think. That's were you went wrong.

If 45% of the infections are from community transmission, do you

A) test all those people and hope to reduce your numbers infected and isolate them and repeat the procedure until numbers are no longer presenting themselves therefore not overwhelming your ICU's

b) abandon all of those people 11 days later because you haven't the capacity to do it and give them shít excuses, gambling that it wont spread like wildlfire, and hoping that only those really affected, live alone, and will present themselves in a heap in your ICU, for ventilation, if they are "that bad".

c) make some obscure remark about an unrelated illness whilst pointing in the opposite direction, hoping nobody will notice

kowloon · 25-03-2020 03:14PM

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Was someone in the US arrested for terrorism for doing it

Yep, just found a report of it (posted previous page)

Bob24 · 25-03-2020 03:14PM

Roger_007 wrote: »

This is precisely the problem. And it’s not just for a month or two., it could be a year or two.
That is why the current ‘lockdowns’ across the world are unsustainable in the longer term. At some point things are going to get out of control in a public order and industrial relations sense. Workers in the very labour intensive food industry, for instance, will down tools at some point because they won’t want to be in the ‘firing line’.
There is no prospect that this virus is going to be contained anytime soon and a vaccine is still at least a year away. Does anyone seriously believe that a lockdown can be maintained for that length of time. I don’t!

Lockdowns are fine for 2 months to control a strong outbreak. Once the outbreak is under control, the exit strategy is to transition to the Singapore/Korea/China (except Hubei) strategy which has proved the possibility of significantly limiting the number of now infections without being in lockdowns.

bekker · 25-03-2020 03:14PM

is_that_so wrote: »

I think it's to find a lot more cases and to remove an awful lot of people from testing who don't need it. The winter flu' programme gets 40% positive in tests.

No it's not, triaging those seeking tests is designed to achieve that.

'Flu statistics are irrelevant, UK found out hard way.

TheAsYLuMkeY · 25-03-2020 03:16PM

NaiveMelodies wrote: »

The vital PPE gear that's currently required for frontline staff is NOT readily available from China. It's being snapped up before being ready. Lots of back orders.
If anyone can source IIR masks let me know.

Thats not true.

I have spoken with one of the biggest PPE suppliers in Ireland this morning and they will have 100,000 masks landing here in two weeks, order received and confirmed by China manufacturers.

An Ciarraioch · 25-03-2020 03:16PM

37 new cases in NI, now have 7 deaths there:

https://twitter.com/DarranMarshall/status/1242824610183352321

the.red.baron · 25-03-2020 03:16PM

is_that_so wrote: »

It's a general comment that quite a number of people who go to A&E do not need to be there.

loads are drunk people ffs, not referred by GP

which was the original point

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