CoVid19 Part X - 1,564 cases ROI (9 deaths) 209 in NI (7 deaths) (25 March) Read OP

Jim_Hodge · 25-03-2020 04:09PM

A good graphic on how we can help slow this down

https://www.rte.ie/news/newslens/2020/0325/1126323-graphic-illustrates-importance-of-social-distancing/

Bob24 · 25-03-2020 04:10PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

Didn't your mother ever tell you to not worry about what other people do. Onus is on you to behave responsibly.

And the connection to my post you quoted?

joe_99 · 25-03-2020 04:10PM

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

It makes it looks like there is PPE available to him, but that the Government won't buy it. So weird that you have celebrities like Ronaldo saying things like '' I'm buying 10000 ventilators '' when no one else can buy one!

Seems so crazy.

Exactly. Money is not the problem it's availability

the.red.baron · 25-03-2020 04:10PM

flynnlives wrote: »

explain the dramatic drop in A&E numbers?

I bet given access we would see a dramatic drop in referral letters to them.

There is simply no other explaination then less referrals from gp's to them.

i've been in A&E Twice never referred by a GP

explain that

is_that_so · 25-03-2020 04:11PM

An Ciarraioch wrote: »

If a home testing kit is being rolled out in the UK next week, presumably it'll also be licensed here?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/25/uk-coronavirus-mass-home-testing-to-be-made-available-within-days

That's a question for Holohan and Co. Their approach so far suggests probably not.

JP Liz V1 · 25-03-2020 04:11PM

kowloon wrote: »

I wonder how coughing on someone purposely would go down with the Gardai, is it a form of assault?

Was someone in the US arrested for terrorism for doing it

TheAsYLuMkeY · 25-03-2020 04:12PM

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

It makes it looks like there is PPE available to him, but that the Government won't buy it. So weird that you have celebrities like Ronaldo saying things like '' I'm buying 10000 ventilators '' when no one else can buy one!

Seems so crazy.

If Leo can go up in credits wit me after his national address, then so can conor mcgregor.

Fair play to him if he is doing that, i dont see any news stories about Denis O'Brien, Jp mcmanus, Larry Goodman doing the same.

the.red.baron · 25-03-2020 04:12PM

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

It makes it looks like there is PPE available to him, but that the Government won't buy it. So weird that you have celebrities like Ronaldo saying things like '' I'm buying 10000 ventilators '' when no one else can buy one!

Seems so crazy.

I'm buying a millions ventilators

CIARAN_BOYLE · 25-03-2020 04:12PM

flynnlives wrote: »

explain the dramatic drop in A&E numbers?

I bet given access we would see a dramatic drop in referral letters to them.

There is simply no other explaination then less referrals from gp's to them.

Routine procedures were cancelled. These resources were used to clear A&E. Many people in A&E are kept in as a way 5o force to the top of the que for things that can be done with routine resources.

Xertz · 25-03-2020 04:12PM

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

It makes it looks like there is PPE available to him, but that the Government won't buy it. So weird that you have celebrities like Ronaldo saying things like '' I'm buying 10000 ventilators '' when no one else can buy one!

Seems so crazy.

The problem isn’t one of money. It’s a supply chain issue. We’ve never, ever, ever needed this volume of PPE and ventilators and there isn’t the capacity to make them in the normal supply chain. Ventilators are also highly complex, almost hand built machines that typically are not made on the scale of consumer appliances or something like that.

Adapting other companies to produce them is possible, but it’s a massive challenge to get something that technical, that’s all about extreme detailing and so on onto different kind of production line.

I’ve no doubt companies will try to do it, and may succeed to some degree but this isn’t a money issue. It’s a hard limit of what can actually be done.

PPE, in general, however isn’t that technically complex except maybe for filtration systems, and the entire garment production resources of the planet need to go into it for a while if we’re going to have the amounts we need.

circadian · 25-03-2020 04:13PM

the.red.baron wrote: »

I'm buying a millions ventilators

I'm buying 5 million.

is_that_so · 25-03-2020 04:13PM

the.red.baron wrote: »

i've been in A&E Twice never referred by a GP

explain that

It's a general comment that quite a number of people who go to A&E do not need to be there.

Tacitus Kilgore · 25-03-2020 04:13PM

TheAsYLuMkeY wrote: »

If Leo can go up in credits wit me after his national address, then so can conor mcgregor.

Fair play to him if he is doing that, i dont see any news stories about Denis O'Brien, Jp mcmanus, Larry Goodman doing the same.

I'd say he's too raging his hospitals are being used for the common good to be able to speak in public.

STB. · 25-03-2020 04:14PM

is_that_so wrote: »

I think it's to find a lot more cases and to remove an awful lot of people from testing who don't need it. The winter flu' programme gets 40% positive in tests.

You think. That's were you went wrong.

If 45% of the infections are from community transmission, do you

A) test all those people and hope to reduce your numbers infected and isolate them and repeat the procedure until numbers are no longer presenting themselves therefore not overwhelming your ICU's

b) abandon all of those people 11 days later because you haven't the capacity to do it and give them shít excuses, gambling that it wont spread like wildlfire, and hoping that only those really affected, live alone, and will present themselves in a heap in your ICU, for ventilation, if they are "that bad".

c) make some obscure remark about an unrelated illness whilst pointing in the opposite direction, hoping nobody will notice

kowloon · 25-03-2020 04:14PM

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Was someone in the US arrested for terrorism for doing it

Yep, just found a report of it (posted previous page)

Bob24 · 25-03-2020 04:14PM

Roger_007 wrote: »

This is precisely the problem. And it’s not just for a month or two., it could be a year or two.
That is why the current ‘lockdowns’ across the world are unsustainable in the longer term. At some point things are going to get out of control in a public order and industrial relations sense. Workers in the very labour intensive food industry, for instance, will down tools at some point because they won’t want to be in the ‘firing line’.
There is no prospect that this virus is going to be contained anytime soon and a vaccine is still at least a year away. Does anyone seriously believe that a lockdown can be maintained for that length of time. I don’t!

Lockdowns are fine for 2 months to control a strong outbreak. Once the outbreak is under control, the exit strategy is to transition to the Singapore/Korea/China (except Hubei) strategy which has proved the possibility of significantly limiting the number of now infections without being in lockdowns.

bekker · 25-03-2020 04:14PM

is_that_so wrote: »

I think it's to find a lot more cases and to remove an awful lot of people from testing who don't need it. The winter flu' programme gets 40% positive in tests.

No it's not, triaging those seeking tests is designed to achieve that.

'Flu statistics are irrelevant, UK found out hard way.

TheAsYLuMkeY · 25-03-2020 04:16PM

NaiveMelodies wrote: »

The vital PPE gear that's currently required for frontline staff is NOT readily available from China. It's being snapped up before being ready. Lots of back orders.
If anyone can source IIR masks let me know.

Thats not true.

I have spoken with one of the biggest PPE suppliers in Ireland this morning and they will have 100,000 masks landing here in two weeks, order received and confirmed by China manufacturers.

An Ciarraioch · 25-03-2020 04:16PM

37 new cases in NI, now have 7 deaths there:

https://twitter.com/DarranMarshall/status/1242824610183352321

the.red.baron · 25-03-2020 04:16PM

is_that_so wrote: »

It's a general comment that quite a number of people who go to A&E do not need to be there.

loads are drunk people ffs, not referred by GP

which was the original point

Seamai · 25-03-2020 04:16PM

bekker wrote: »

C.....! Read the entire post.

I did read the entire post and plenty of of other articles mentioning that drop in accounts. I'm not saying I believe, just find it strange and also I'm not taking any report from China as gospel

I hope you're not calling me what I think you are.

Blaze420 · 25-03-2020 04:18PM

New Home wrote: »

Probably not the best advice to follow... call the Gardaí and do that ^^^ inside your head instead.

**** that, play stupid games/win stupid prizes.

NaiveMelodies · 25-03-2020 04:18PM

TheAsYLuMkeY wrote: »

Thats not true.

I have spoken with one of the biggest PPE suppliers in Ireland this morning and they will have 100,000 masks landing here in two weeks, order received and confirmed by China manufacturers.

Yes, the masks are accounted for.
They'll be waiting longer for another 100,000 if they ask tomorrow. Millions are required.
What type of mask do you know?

kingshankly · 25-03-2020 04:18PM

TheAsYLuMkeY wrote: »

If Leo can go up in credits wit me after his national address, then so can conor mcgregor.

Fair play to him if he is doing that, i dont see any news stories about Denis O'Brien, Jp mcmanus, Larry Goodman doing the same.

Jp mc manus is one of the most charitable men alive the amount of money he gives to charity is incredible

JP Liz V1 · 25-03-2020 04:18PM

NaiveMelodies wrote: »

The vital PPE gear that's currently required for frontline staff is NOT readily available from China. It's being snapped up before being ready. Lots of back orders.
If anyone can source IIR masks let me know.

Does any Irish companies make? We need to protect the healthcare frontline

spookwoman · 25-03-2020 04:18PM

NaiveMelodies wrote: »

The vital PPE gear that's currently required for frontline staff is NOT readily available from China. It's being snapped up before being ready. Lots of back orders.
If anyone can source IIR masks let me know.

Another problem is countries are starting to stop export or just claiming oh we need to check whats in your truck.
https://www.straitstimes.com/world/europe/confusion-after-czech-officials-seize-china-donated-masks-bound-for-italy

Bob24 · 25-03-2020 04:18PM

Drumpot wrote: »

South Korea have a government, a system and a population ready to deal with this after having these sort of issues before. South Korea were also dealing with the start of this when the rest of the world was open for business and medial resources easily available.

Ireland trying to follow the South Korea strategy is great but to expect us to be able to match what they are doing is unreasonable. People are holding our government to a ridiculously high standard without factoring in no country is prepared for this. We aren’t the only country struggling to get the resources we want to deal with it but at least our country is trying to be more like The best (South Korea) at dealing with it , then trying to make sh*t up (uk/USA) or leaving it too late like the rest of Europe. So far the tiered closedown has been way ahead of a lot of European countries or at least level with most...

Mistakes will be made, but that’s supposedly what happens in crisis, the key thing is to learn from mistakes and to regroup.

All I was saying though is that it is either a mistake or a lie to claim we are following the SK strategy; as we are very clearly missing key components of that strategy in our own strategy (all of which being easy to identify).

I.e. I am not talking about the quality of execution of the strategy, but simply explaining why it is incorrect to say this is the strategy we are trying to follow.

0gac3yjefb5sv7 · 25-03-2020 04:19PM

China were only in lockdown for 40 days I think...any chance we would be the same?

caveat emptor · 25-03-2020 04:19PM

https://twitter.com/QuickTake/status/1242829935506534403?s=20

kilkenny31 · 25-03-2020 04:20PM

wakka12 wrote: »

Scandinavia seems to have gotten a handle on their growth it seems like? Initially they all seemed to be growing by 300-500 daily but seems like just a steady 150-200 new cases daily in Norway , Sweden, Denmark

I'll say it again. Population density and the amount of people in a country will come into play here. The potential for growth in countries with a smaller population just isn't there. Our population although more urbanised than in the past still has a large amount of people living in small towns and rural villages. There's a natural social distancing that comes with that.

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CoVid19 Part X - 1,564 cases ROI (9 deaths) 209 in NI (7 deaths) (25 March) Read OP