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CoVid19 Part X - 1,564 cases ROI (9 deaths) 209 in NI (7 deaths) (25 March) *Read OP*

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  • #7412
    the.red.baron
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,636 ✭✭✭the.red.baron


    gabeeg wrote: »
    I want to keep my criticism of the gov/HSE to a minimum because we all have to get behind them in a time like this.

    Posts like this make it difficult for me though.






    don't hold back, i doubt they are reading this


  • #7413
    MD1990
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,740 ✭✭✭✭MD1990


    AllGunsBlazing wrote: »
    So Charles has it but his wife tested negative. A little odd that.

    the virus seems more dangerous & easy to contract for males


  • #7414
    patnor1011
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,301 ✭✭✭patnor1011


    Donald Trump wrote: »
    Better than his.


    You are posting quotes from "Dr. X" when it turns out that "Dr. X" is a failed, and fired, ex-lecturer in communications from some nondescript "university" in Belgium that nobody has ever heard of.

    "Dr." me hole

    Yep as I suspected. Shoot the messenger when you do not like the message.
    Sorry bud, but you cant wish the facts away. They will still remain facts.


  • #7415
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Achasanai wrote: »
    How is it 'creative accounting'? The real important figure is how many we're testing per population, which I believe is relatively high (compared to other European countries) for the stage that we're currently at.

    If you don't test efficiently and get results quickly. You don't know what stage you are at?
    Therefore you can't say it's relatively high for the stage we are at.


  • #7416
    Eliezer Hallowed Whirlpool
    Posts: 0 ✭ Eliezer Hallowed Whirlpool


    BluePlanet wrote: »
    So far the UK have tested over 90K people and plan on ramping up to hundreds of thousands a day.
    Do we we know how many tests have been done hereto in Ireland?

    We had done 18k tests as of midnight last. As of a day or 2 ago if they'd hit 90k tests then they have done 5x more tests than us but have a population of over 10x ours.

    So we are testing more than the UK by a margin when you adjust for our population.


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  • #7417
    pH
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,188 ✭✭✭pH


    Akabusi wrote: »
    But, but you need to be really sick in hospital in the UK to be tested.

    Apparently not. Prince Charles (and Camila) were both tested on the NHS under the standard testing regime, no queue jumping or special treatment at all, honest guv'.


  • #7418
    BluePlanet
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,444 ✭✭✭BluePlanet


    newbie18892 wrote: »
    GP called me this morning and said despite meeting criteria before i'm not priority now so won't be tested. I don't mind that too much as I know there's more high risk people than me out there. However, she said it's highly likely i have some form of respiratory tract infection but there's nothing really she can do for it, just continue to self-isolate. Fair enough, but I would've thought GP's could still prescribe antibiotics or are they afraid if it is COVID that i have that antibiotics would have adverse effects?

    I concur, if she is diagnosing a respiratory tract infection then i think the normal treatment is antiboitics, not just let the infection fester until you present at A&E.
    Sounds like you got the fob-off. :mad:


  • #7419
    Donald Trump
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,327 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    patnor1011 wrote: »
    Yep as I suspected. Shoot the messenger when you do not like the message.
    Sorry bud, but you cant wish the facts away. They will still remain facts.


    G'way there with your "facts" :pac:

    I think we have different definitions of the word.

    The facts are he is a failed ex-lecturer in communications. Maybe he could give some bad introductory lessons into how to use twitter or facebook?
    On coronavirus, I'm probably not going to put a lot of weight onto his ramblings. You can if you want.


  • #7420
    Dymo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,569 ✭✭✭Dymo


    AllGunsBlazing wrote: »
    So Charles has it but his wife tested negative. A little odd that.

    Most Royals would have separate sleeping quarters only joining up for some fun.


  • #7421
    10000maniacs
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,612 ✭✭✭10000maniacs


    Jurgen Klopp wrote: »
    To be honest as bad as it sounds it might be a good thing the likes of Prince Charles has it

    I think it would really make it hit home to a lot there tbh

    I remember last week he was still shaking hands with everyone.
    His personal medical staff will probably invent treatment for the coronavirus if he gets it bad. Maybe its a good thing that he got it.


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  • #7422
    eagle eye
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,577 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    murpho999 wrote:
    Also, this is not the time for politics or sacking ministers etc, just need to do the work to protect people.
    It is a time for getting rid of people who are not up to the job. You need somebody ruthless in charge who will stop at nothing to improve testing etc.
    Like Michael O'Leary would be my choice to lead us through this. Obviously he can't because he is not an elected official but it's the closest you can get to him is what we need.


  • #7423
    fattymuatty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 295 ✭✭fattymuatty


    Akabusi wrote: »
    But, but you need to be really sick in hospital in the UK to be tested.

    The rules are different in Scotland where he is.


  • #7424
    patnor1011
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,301 ✭✭✭patnor1011


    eagle eye wrote: »
    It is a time for getting rid of people who are not up to the job. You need somebody ruthless in charge who will stop at nothing to improve testing etc.
    Like Michael O'Leary would be my choice to lead us through this. Obviously he can't because he is not an elected official but it's the closest you can get to him is what we need.

    ...and make shareholders some money in the process...


  • #7425
    frillyleaf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 801 ✭✭✭frillyleaf


    JRant wrote: »
    I don't get this line of thinking at all. In their own words they are just following advice from WHO and the CMO. What exactly has he done to "lead" on this?

    Either way their policies implemented how this goes for Ireland. I feel closing schools as early as they did was a good move however I feel the non restricted travel and lack of screening at airports will come back to bite us in a few weeks.

    They are following guidelines but they have to manage how those guidelines are implemented.

    Personally I have little trust with the HSE overall how it is managed but I’m hoping for everyone’s sake we have gotten this right and trying to stay positive:)


  • #7426
    branie2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,325 ✭✭✭✭branie2


    The fact that Prince Charles has the virus just shows that anyone can get it.


  • #7427
    Akabusi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,136 ✭✭✭Akabusi


    AllGunsBlazing wrote: »
    So Charles has it but his wife tested negative. A little odd that.

    They live in a big house


  • #7428
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    cfuserkildare wrote: »
    Why is Simon Harris still in a job??

    3 weeks ago he told us all that we were not at risk of the Pandemic that we now have.

    Yet he is still in his job, that We are paying for!

    Call for him to be replaced!!!

    And how exactly would we do that then? We're "stuck" with all of them until a new government is formed.


  • #7429
    KaneToad
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,709 ✭✭✭KaneToad


    eagle eye wrote: »
    It is a time for getting rid of people who are not up to the job. You need somebody ruthless in charge who will stop at nothing to improve testing etc.
    Like Michael O'Leary would be my choice to lead us through this. Obviously he can't because he is not an elected official but it's the closest you can get to him is what we need.

    This nonsense always rears it head. MOL is a successful airline executive. He is not the man for this job. Just because he is brash & "ruthless" is not reason enough to suggest he would solve everything.

    Donald Trump is another example of a ruthless, brash billionaire. Maybe we could get him on board too?


  • #7430
    khalessi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,216 ✭✭✭khalessi


    frillyleaf wrote: »
    Personally I have little trust with the HSE overall how it is managed but I’m hoping for everyone’s sake we have gotten this right and trying to stay positive:)

    Surely you mean negative lol:D


  • #7431
    the.red.baron
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,636 ✭✭✭the.red.baron


    MD1990 wrote: »
    the virus seems more dangerous & easy to contract for males




    there may be many factors in this, diet, smoking, more men in the workplace etc


    none of these things might affect you


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  • #7432
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    From Guardian feed @08:36. Not sure I'd fancy this being announced here myself!
    French government scientific advisers have recommended a total of six weeks’ lockdown, a suggestion president Emmanuel Macron and his ministers are considering but seem reluctant to announce at this moment, Kim Willsher, the Guardian’s Paris correspondent, reports.

    Meanwhile here's more on that Dutch situation.

    https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2020/03/dutch-coronavirus-measures-may-be-slowing-growth-health-chief-tells-mps/


  • #7433
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    newbie18892 wrote: »
    GP called me this morning and said despite meeting criteria before i'm not priority now so won't be tested. I don't mind that too much as I know there's more high risk people than me out there. However, she said it's highly likely i have some form of respiratory tract infection but there's nothing really she can do for it, just continue to self-isolate. Fair enough, but I would've thought GP's could still prescribe antibiotics or are they afraid if it is COVID that i have that antibiotics would have adverse effects?
    BluePlanet wrote: »
    I concur, if she is diagnosing a respiratory tract infection then i think the normal treatment is antiboitics, not just let the infection fester until you present at A&E.
    Sounds like you got the fob-off. :mad:

    I would disagree. Firstly I'd listen to the doc. Secondly and this is not medical advice. If you do indeed have Covid and were prescribed antibiotics it could in theory exasperate the situation. Antiobiotics kill bacterial infections. We have plenty of "good" bacteria in our system which would also take a hit.
    You don't want depleted resources in fighting this infection just when your body needs them most.

    You can go downhill quite quickly with this infection so be very careful. If you have a pulse oximeter, use that to monitor how much oxygen your body is getting. If you start to see a change at least you can report to a doctor.

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Oximeter-Finger-Saturation-Monitor-Display/dp/B078ZF18G7


  • #7434
    MarkY91
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,071 ✭✭✭MarkY91


    branie2 wrote: »
    The fact that Prince Charles has the virus just shows that anyone can get it.

    Only a matter of time until a high profile celebrity or personality does from the virus. Young or old. I think only then will some people realise the severity of the pandemic will hit some people that ANYONE can contract it and ANYONE can die from it.


  • #7435
    patnor1011
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,301 ✭✭✭patnor1011


    Donald Trump wrote: »
    G'way there with your "facts" :pac:

    I think we have different definitions of the word.

    The facts are he is a failed ex-lecturer in communications. Maybe he could give some bad introductory lessons into how to use twitter or facebook?
    On coronavirus, I'm probably not going to put a lot of weight onto his ramblings. You can if you want.

    Sure. You can do whatever you want, feel free to panic away...


  • #7436
    Christy42
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,106 ✭✭✭Christy42


    eagle eye wrote: »
    It is a time for getting rid of people who are not up to the job. You need somebody ruthless in charge who will stop at nothing to improve testing etc.
    Like Michael O'Leary would be my choice to lead us through this. Obviously he can't because he is not an elected official but it's the closest you can get to him is what we need.

    ??? I feel like O'Leary would still care more about flights than testing.

    I am not sure Harris has stopped at anything to get more testing. As has been mentioned we seem to be doing pretty good per capital in terms of testing.

    Someone mentioned a quote from Harris about Ireland not getting a pandemic but I can't find that and seems to be a random claim. All I can find is his this is serious but don't panic advice which still seems to hold.


  • #7437
    murpho999
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,783 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    eagle eye wrote: »
    It is a time for getting rid of people who are not up to the job. You need somebody ruthless in charge who will stop at nothing to improve testing etc.
    Like Michael O'Leary would be my choice to lead us through this. Obviously he can't because he is not an elected official but it's the closest you can get to him is what we need.

    Michael O'Leary reallY?

    Sanitsers. 2 euro per litre. Oh you want a bottle for it, that wil be €40.

    Testing: €40 per person. Result sent by text for €20.

    Call centre set up in Department of health for premium rates.

    I jest. O'Leary is talented but has no experience in dealing with health, medicine, HSE, etc.

    Testing will improve but it can't be done instantly like so many expect.


  • #7438
    expectationlost
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,508 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    so many people saying they have no fever yet testing positive, can't understand these new test criteria, sure tighten it but chest issues seem to be key not just the fever...


  • #7439
    the.red.baron
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,636 ✭✭✭the.red.baron


    branie2 wrote: »
    The fact that Prince Charles has the virus just shows that anyone can get it.




    currently the space station has zero cases


    just goes to show


    but its a virus, unless you exist in a bubble you could get it


    Someone super rich on a private island where they can self isolate is far less likely to get it than someone working in an A&E


  • #7440
    MarkY91
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,071 ✭✭✭MarkY91


    It's been well over two weeks since the Italy lockdown..how the hell are thousands per day still being confirmed if they're on severe lockdown procedures?

    Even if some people are breaking rules, it's surely just a miniscule amount as 99% of people there are surely decent human beings and the police/army would be putting a stop to anyone they seeing acting the bollocks.


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  • #7441
    walshb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,598 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Yes, O'Leary is what's needed......bulls in china shops are always the way to go during serious health issues and crises...


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