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CoVid19 Part X - 1,564 cases ROI (9 deaths) 209 in NI (7 deaths) (25 March) *Read OP*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,597 ✭✭✭auspicious


    ET6gxEfUMAE5KLS?format=jpg&name=small

    Alas Obama was only good for dropping bombs, over a hundred thousand. We don't need his help.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,749 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    But could this all be inaccurate to a certain extent if data is modelled excluding the 43,000 symptomless carriers? (If its true they were deliberately kept out of official stats).

    You don't say


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,099 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/1240371160078000128

    The comments on this are fantastic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 909 ✭✭✭keithkk16


    I thought I was lucky enough to still have a job to go to this week then noticed that my weekly wages are less than the dole now. I don't understand anything anymore:confused:


  • Posts: 7,967 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    MipMap wrote: »
    I think you now need to have a dry cough and a temperature.
    They are tweaking the criteria to try to cut down the number of people who get referred for a test. In the beginning they would only test you if you had symptoms and had recently been to Italy or China. Now you need 2 symptoms to qualify.


    It does not matter. If you feel sick ring your GP. He will advise you and tell you what to do.


    We are far too focused on this testing business. It's primary purpose is to isolate possible case, find some of their contacts and isolate them. It has nothing to do with caring for you because there are no treatments for Covid 19.


    The normal rules still apply - talk to your GP and if he is not available and you are in a bad way call for an ambulance.

    Thanks. Im wondering because my partner is still going to work daily and basically wondering if I feel unwell but don't qualify for a test, is he still ok to go to work. Anyway, thank you for the info.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 961 ✭✭✭James 007


    https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/1240371160078000128

    The comments on this are fantastic.
    Tea Shock wrote: »
    A mate of mine obviously has it. Been waiting for a test for a week now. Can't leave the house. Lives with two elderly parents

    Lives with two elderly parents:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:
    The question is should he be living with them at all!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92,394 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    A rehab hospital in the South of ROI with many elderly patients has 8 confirmed positive cases


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 435 ✭✭MipMap


    https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/1240371160078000128

    The comments on this are fantastic.


    I'm 65 and when I was their age I was just the same.
    We didn't have a virus, we had the threat of a nuclear war and we
    didn't give a sh1t about it. We lived for today and that is what they are doing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 912 ✭✭✭bekker


    I'm really confused. Is there a link to the new criteria for getting a test? I don't understand what qualifies you for a test.
    Compare symptoms of coronavirus, flu and cold.

    When you may need a test
    You should self-isolate and call your GP to be assessed for a test if you have a (fever high temperature - 38 degrees Celsius or above or chills and one ) of the following symptoms:

    a cough - this can be any kind of cough, not just dry
    shortness of breath
    breathing difficulties
    If this is you, the people in your household need to restrict their movements.

    HSELive is an information line only and can’t order coronavirus tests.

    Read more about coronavirus testing


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,067 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    MipMap wrote: »
    I'm 65 and when I was their age I was just the same.
    We didn't have a virus, we had the threat of a nuclear war and we
    didn't give a sh1t about it. We lived for today and that is what they are doing.
    Maybe the difference was that if you'd been hit by a nuke, it wouldn't have made much difference to anybody else.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 435 ✭✭MipMap


    Thanks. Im wondering because my partner is still going to work daily and basically wondering if I feel unwell but don't qualify for a test, is he still ok to go to work. Anyway, thank you for the info.


    If you feel unwell ring your GP. If you don't have a GP google the nearest one
    to you and discuss it with Him/Her.

    Be Well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,442 ✭✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    RTE thinks it's important we know what Greta thinks

    Greta Thunberg: Coronavirus crisis response shows world can act fast

    https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0324/1126125-thunberg-crisis-response-shows-world-can-act-fast/

    Greta Thunberg says it's 'extremely likely' she has coronavirus.

    https://www.buzz.ie/news/greta-thunberg-says-extremely-likely-coronavirus-361043
    The Swedish climate activist said she was self-isolating after returning from a trip around central Europe with her father around two weeks ago.

    She said they both began to feel ill a few days later, with Thunberg suffering with “shivers, sore throat and cough”.

    Thunberg said she had not been tested, in line with the policy in Sweden, and had now "basically recovered".

    so thats where she's been


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92,394 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Louisiana has 4.66m people. 1388 cases, same as Ireland, with 216 new cases and 46 deaths . Louisiana is a real hot spot, I'm not sure we are doing too good.

    So warm weather not slowing it down either


  • Posts: 7,967 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    bekker wrote: »
    Compare symptoms of coronavirus, flu and cold.

    When you may need a test
    You should self-isolate and call your GP to be assessed for a test if you have a (fever high temperature - 38 degrees Celsius or above or chills and one ) of the following symptoms:

    a cough - this can be any kind of cough, not just dry
    shortness of breath
    breathing difficulties
    If this is you, the people in your household need to restrict their movements.

    HSELive is an information line only and can’t order coronavirus tests.

    Read more about coronavirus testing

    Thanks Bekker. That's very helpful.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 807 ✭✭✭marilynrr


    Thanks. Im wondering because my partner is still going to work daily and basically wondering if I feel unwell but don't qualify for a test, is he still ok to go to work. Anyway, thank you for the info.

    The advice they seem to be giving is that if you had symptoms you would need to self isolate at home and stay as far away from your partner as possible. Use separate bathrooms. Don't share stuff etc.

    ETA: That was from https://www2.hse.ie/conditions/coronavirus/self-isolation-and-limited-social-interaction.html
    I saw the previous poster posted conflicting advice from the HSE.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,442 ✭✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    citysights wrote: »
    I don’t think we’ll go back to the way we were before. Well need to rethink things, even the fact of the Venice canals being full of fish after so long might make us consider our effects on the planet......

    Nope. it'll be back to business as usual as soon as possible, if not before


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,713 ✭✭✭cloudatlas


    marilynrr wrote: »
    The advice they seem to be giving is that if you had symptoms you would need to self isolate at home and stay as far away from your partner as possible. Use separate bathrooms. Don't share stuff etc.

    There’s a separate bathroom in every house?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,796 ✭✭✭KungPao


    Spare a thought for your local burglar at this testing time. My area was plagued by such uninvited guests shortly before this outbreak. Reports of such enterings are zero these days, with practically everyone home they can’t get a look in.

    One positive at least.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,354 ✭✭✭nocoverart


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    So warm weather not slowing it down either

    I think we may forget about the warm weather myth lads. Some cold ones and a BBQ is what we should be focusing on with regards to the Summer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1 BustedG2020


    Do you not think it is completely daft that RTE.ie states in each COVID-19 update that?:

    “Generally, you need to be 15 minutes or more in the vicinity of an infected person, within 1-2 metres, to be considered at-risk or a close contact"

    Although this is clear and unambiguous, in specific reference to <15 minutes, it is not accurate and will mislead the general public!


    Is it accurate?

    No. This phrase is simply not correct when presented on its own, without context.


    As stated in HSE guidelines, the phrase is not based on observations of COVID-19, it is “based on observations from similar serious coronaviruses – SARS-CoV and MERS-CoV." This does not make it to RTE.ie publication. May I also add a generalization from comparisons to two other similar coronaviruses is being made here, not a large number.


    Is it misleading?

    Many or most people may interpret that “Generally” is in reference to at least observation/s of COVID-19, and that they are safe for up to 15 minutes, thus leading to ill-advised and imprudent behaviour, not warned that COVID-19 appears more transmissible than SARS-CoV and MERS-CoV, which the phrase is based on.

    To add, one would think a phrase, if to be repackaged, would at least promote cautious, vigilant behaviour, in such a fast evolving public safety topic.


    Alternatives?

    I am not objecting to any advice provided by HSE, RTE.ie should provide the information that HSE provides to the general public, and other creative images and communications. RTE.ie is repackaging information from HSE interim technical guidelines, and presents it without very important context, while we deal with a more infectious virus this time around.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 435 ✭✭MipMap


    Has everyone gone to Bed?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 269 ✭✭Cyclonius


    Not just yet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 435 ✭✭MipMap


    Was about to send out a Raven


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,442 ✭✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    cloudatlas wrote: »
    The advice they seem to be giving is that if you had symptoms you would need to self isolate at home and stay as far away from your partner as possible. Use separate bathrooms. Don't share stuff etc.
    There’s a separate bathroom in every house?

    if there's no en-suite, they advise that the person with symptoms use the bathroom after everyone else is done, disinfect / wipe down surfaces afterwards, use separate towels, and keep them separate, dirty laundry in a binbag, and do separately...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,371 ✭✭✭✭jimmycrackcorm


    Thargor wrote: »
    Is anyone else just in total shock that this is happening and how suddenly it came along? I forget about it then remember that its happening all over again a minute after my alarm goes off every morning, its absolutely mad when you think about it. Bill Gates was warning us we were completely unprepared for a pandemic in his TED talks from 2015 onwards.

    Imagine if this was some kind of airborne Ebola that was actually killing 90% of the people who got it, society would just collapse.

    I had to laugh at this. You just described the start of "The walking dead"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,224 ✭✭✭Talisman


    Louisiana has 4.66m people. 1388 cases, same as Ireland, with 216 new cases and 46 deaths . Louisiana is a real hot spot, I'm not sure we are doing too good.
    My sister's in-laws have family living there. My nieces are devastated because last week their grand-uncle volunteered to help out at a nursing home so that his daughter who was on the medical staff there could go work in the local hospital and he became infected within two days. He has both diabetes and cancer and refused to take up a ventilator so he stands little to no chance of surviving but he's a stubborn old man and he's still hanging on. His daughter and son have both been infected at the hospital they were working at so they are both in isolation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 435 ✭✭MipMap


    Talisman wrote: »
    he's a stubborn old man and he's still hanging on.


    Not All Heros wear Capes


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,986 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Thanks. Im wondering because my partner is still going to work daily and basically wondering if I feel unwell but don't qualify for a test, is he still ok to go to work. Anyway, thank you for the info.

    Fever above 38 °C + one of the following..
    Cough ,any kind
    Shortness of breath
    Breathing difficulties

    Info is readily available on HSE.ie Coronavirus pages and updated every day.

    If you are unwell ring your GP, and if you are referred for a test you will need to self isolate and your household will have to restrict their movements , that means not going to work. Again all on the above site.
    This has been changed from people only restricted if close contact or household of a CONFIRMED case, probably because there is such a backlog of people waiting to be tested.
    7 to10 days at present as those new test sites are only up and running this week.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 807 ✭✭✭marilynrr


    Goldengirl wrote: »

    Info is readily available on HSE.ie Coronavirus pages and updated every day.

    If you are unwell ring your GP, and if you are referred for a test you will need to self isolate and your household will have to restrict their movements , that means not going to work. Again all on the above site.

    They have conflicting advice on this page https://www2.hse.ie/conditions/coronavirus/self-isolation-and-limited-social-interaction.html


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,986 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    marilynrr wrote: »

    Really?
    What conflicting advice?
    The only thing I have found is one week it's people with contact with those travelling from Italy or China, then just from abroad , then contacts of confirmed cases only need be concerned and now its contacts or household of any case , confirmed or not . But not applying to healthcare workers!
    Very difficult to keep up with this disease, but I think the HSE are doing their best.
    As I said , updated regularly.
    So if you find conflicting advice, just look at the date it was updated. The newer the advice , the more relevant it is.

    I think I see what you are saying now ...that page does say that household contacts do not need to restrict movements unless told to do so , which was the advice up to this week .
    Then it says under social isolation on the next page that they do. Confusing alright.


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