CoVid19 Part X - 1,564 cases ROI (9 deaths) 209 in NI (7 deaths) (25 March) Read OP

bekker · 24-03-2020 11:29PM

A question which doesn't to have been asked is why exactly are we testing.

What is the purpose?

If it is ,

to evaluate the extent of penetration of the virus then statistically valid, repeated randomised testing of the population the best answer.

to identify and rapidly treat those who are displaying symptoms of serious reaction then fast GP triaging, fast testing and fast processing.

to test the cohort who are statistically most vulnerable then selection by existing medical record is the best answer, but to test 400,000+?

to reassure the population then the present strategy seems to be effective, but meaningless as a strategy for any of the above.

woohoo!!! · 24-03-2020 11:29PM

tuxy wrote: »

Spain is in for a really though time for the next few weeks ( I know it was difficult for them already )

Any signs of what country is the next one in major trouble?

France, then UK. Switzerland and Holland also.

eldamo · 24-03-2020 11:29PM

tuxy wrote: »

Spain is in for a really though time for the next few weeks ( I know it was difficult for them already )

Any signs of what country is the next one in major trouble?

USA all the way tough guy. Hooooooooo.

Yeah, if trump gets his way they are proper feckeroonied.

Steve F · 24-03-2020 11:29PM

Corkgirl20 wrote: »

I can not wait until this is all over !

Yes indeed...we all feel the same.
Sobering thought though is we are "probably" only at the beginning of a long haul.A couple of points
1. A successful vaccine is approximately 12 to 18 months away.
2.Social Distancing is here till then because if we don't keep it up the virus cases will Skyrocket again.
3.Experts keeping a close eye on what happens in China now restrictions are starting to be relaxed,this will be key to what happens here and elsewhere.
4.Two major developments on our side could be the use of Antivirals that kill the virus in infected patients or Covid19 mutates into a less potent strain and becomes less harmful to humans.
5.A hope that warmer weather slows the spread.

We live in hope

JP Liz V1 · 24-03-2020 11:30PM

tuxy wrote: »

Spain is in for a really though time for the next few weeks ( I know it was difficult for them already )

Any signs of what country is the next one in major trouble?

France and US numbers getting higher

Corkgirl20 · 24-03-2020 11:30PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Fair play to Simon. He's not well and doing a fantastic job.

What do you mean by not well? His Crohn’s disease ?
I thought he looked very pale today.

amadangomor · 24-03-2020 11:30PM

Dr. Bre wrote: »

Humans are social creatures- social distancing won’t last a year

Other generations did things like bring Hitler to his knees with great sacrifice and all we are being asked to do is stay on our couch and talk on skype etc instead of in person. Of course it's doable ffs

ACitizenErased · 24-03-2020 11:31PM

Corkgirl20 wrote: »

What do you mean by not well? His Crohn’s disease ?
I thought he looked very pale today.

Yeah he has Crohn's disease. He always looks a bit ill.

Mwengwe · 24-03-2020 11:31PM

Steve F wrote: »

Yes indeed...we all feel the same.
Sobering thought though is we are "probably" only at the beginning of a long haul.A couple of points
1. A successful vaccine is approximately 12 to 18 months away.
2.Social Distancing is here till then because if we don't keep it up the virus cases will Skyrocket again.
3.Experts keeping a close eye on what happens in China now restrictions are starting to be relaxed,this will be key to what happens here and elsewhere.
4.Two major developments on our side could be the use of Antivirals that kill the virus in infected patients or Covid19 mutates into a less potent strain and becomes less harmful to humans.
5.A hope that warmer weather slows the spread.

We live in hope

It's too soon to say 2. Social Distancing is here for 12-18 months. We should brace ourselves for that possibility but we'll see.

JP Liz V1 · 24-03-2020 11:32PM

Corkgirl20 wrote: »

What do you mean by not well? His Crohn’s disease ?
I thought he looked very pale today.

The stress he is under too is huge, fair play to him

boardise · 24-03-2020 11:32PM

GeorgeBailey wrote: »

Has anybody noticed a huge increase in self-appointed smart people recently?

Whose advice to follow ?
On the one hand I can heed the statements of highly qualified Public Health experts or ,on the other , I can row in with someone who happened to stumble on a celebrity tweet and who has a problem computing percentages.
Hmm, tough one.

froog · 24-03-2020 11:34PM

it's nearly a month since first death in the US and no signs of any real large scale social distancing or lockdowns. by this stage other countries had been doing these things for at least a week or more. it's going to get real ugly there in the next few weeks.

Mwengwe · 24-03-2020 11:35PM

GeorgeBailey wrote: »

Has anybody noticed a huge increase in self-appointed smart people recently?

I think a lot of people were always one step away from it, and that step was being forced to sit at home with a computer all day

Silverfish · 24-03-2020 11:35PM

greenpilot wrote: »

"2 Children under 5 in hospital in Ireland with virus .no mum or dad allowed.imagin .
STAY HOME.what if it was your child ."

Just a sample of the utter ****e being shared around Facebook at the moment by bottom feeders.

It could well be true - there's a number of kids under 5 with it

Corkgirl20 · 24-03-2020 11:36PM

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

The stress he is under too is huge, fair play to him

Bless him, they must be under a huge amount of pressure. I can’t imagine they can sleep well at night under the stress. They’re all doing a good job to be fair.

What Username Guidelines · 24-03-2020 11:37PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Yeah he has Crohn's disease. He always looks a bit ill.

I’m getting about 4 hrs sleep a night with the stress of this whole thing, and I’m working from home at a laptop.

Can’t imagine how he’s still standing at this stage, with a long way to go. Fair play to him.

JP Liz V1 · 24-03-2020 11:37PM

I nearly told myself to fcuk off today as too close, reflection in a shop window on my way to the pharmacy

fritzelly · 24-03-2020 11:37PM

elperello wrote: »

I know we are all on edge but it's not nice to wish harm on others.

They get the virus, turns serious, takes a bed away from someone who is not an idiot

Quantum Erasure · 24-03-2020 11:39PM

greenpilot wrote: »

"2 Children under 5 in hospital in Ireland with virus .no mum or dad allowed.imagin .
STAY HOME.what if it was your child ."

Just a sample of the utter ****e being shared around Facebook at the moment by bottom feeders.

https://www.gov.ie/en/press-release/f0c391-statement-from-the-national-public-health-emergency-team-saturday-21/

Hospitalised by Age Group

age range, no., percent
.... >5..... 2 ..... 1%
. 5 - 14 ... 1 ..... 1%
15 - 24 ... 9 ..... 5%
25 - 34 ... 24 ... 14%
35 - 44 ... 18 ... 10%
45 - 54 ... 28 ... 16%
55 - 64 ... 31 ... 18%
.... 65+ ... 60 ... 35%
*all statistics measured at midnight 19 March 2020

dougm1970 · 24-03-2020 11:39PM

amadangomor wrote: »

Other generations did things like bring Hitler to his knees with great sacrifice and all we are being asked to do is stay on our couch and talk on skype etc instead of in person. Of course it's doable ffs

i dunno.
for instance, its expecting every single adult (single as in not married or a couple)....to not have sex for year.....can humans do that ?

(note - the quote was referring to someone who posted about a year or more social distancing)

magma69 · 24-03-2020 11:42PM

dougm1970 wrote: »

i dunno.
for instance, its expecting every single adult (single as in not married or a couple)....to not have sex for year.....can humans do that ?

Phil Leotardo wanted to fcuk a woman for the twenty years he was in the can but he compromised and jerked off into a tissue.

jay0109 · 24-03-2020 11:42PM

dougm1970 wrote: »

i dunno.
for instance, its expecting every single adult (single as in not married or a couple)....to not have sex for year.....can humans do that ?

It's easy to do if your married

MipMap · 24-03-2020 11:42PM

dougm1970 wrote: »

i dunno.
for instance, its expecting every single adult (single as in not married or a couple)....to not have sex for year.....can humans do that ?

If I could get it once a year ............

elperello · 24-03-2020 11:42PM

fritzelly wrote: »

They get the virus, turns serious, takes a bed away from someone who is not an idiot

I know people might say I should toughen up but then it's easy to be tough on here.

Seriously, I don't wish harm on anyone who hasn't harmed me or mine.

questionmark? · 24-03-2020 11:42PM

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

The stress he is under too is huge, fair play to him

It doesn't matter how anyone voted as this is above politics but the current government, caretaker or not, are doing a great job along with the HSE. If you don't agree just look to the left and right of Ireland for comparison.

Strazdas · 24-03-2020 11:44PM

CNN reporting that Louisiana has become an unlikely hotspot. Case numbers rocketing up and 26 people have already died.

24-03-2020 11:45PM

froog wrote: »

it's nearly a month since first death in the US and no signs of any real large scale social distancing or lockdowns. by this stage other countries had been doing these things for at least a week or more. it's going to get real ugly there in the next few weeks.

There certainly is social distancing and the same restrictions that we have here.
But because the US is federal states may implement different levels of it.

In Massachusetts certainly schools are shut about as long as ours are, non essential businesses closed, bats, cafes etc closed, people working from home, just the same as here.

iguana · 24-03-2020 11:45PM

Ok, so I went back and started reading some of the earlier threads. And back on thread two there was a little speculation about the really bad flu that was going around at Christmas with very, very similar symptoms to Covid-19. So out of curiosity I started googling and lots of countries were either reporting an unexpectedly early and large flu surge from December 27-31st 2019 or, like Malaysia denying claims they were experiencing a surge in flu cases.

If Corononavirus was spreading in China from some point in November but not detected until the last week of January. Is it really so impossible that what was being assumed was a surge in flu cases on December 27th in the UK, Ireland and the US was at least in part an early spread of Covid 19? Were we really having an 'especially severe' flu outbreak in many regions of the world where "An early start to the season has left 2,092 people in England needing treatment for the contagious virus so far in 2019. By comparison, there were just 256 hospital admissions with flu at the same point 12 months ago." Right at the same time as a global pandemic of a virus which presents with flu like symptoms was already underway for several weeks?

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/irish-hospitals-breaking-point-after-21172185
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-7810129/Flu-cases-EIGHT-TIMES-higher-point-UK-winter.html
https://www.fox5atlanta.com/video/639365
https://www.nst.com.my/news/nation/2019/12/552217/influenza-infections-still-within-normal-parameters-says-health-dg
https://time.com/5758953/flu-season-2019-2020/

Steve F · 24-03-2020 11:47PM

amadangomor wrote: »

Other generations did things like bring Hitler to his knees with great sacrifice and all we are being asked to do is stay on our couch and talk on skype etc instead of in person. Of course it's doable ffs

Yes.
Even before this outbreak I had begun to notice a particular trait in some people where they couldn't tolerate a moment's inconvenience.
Spoilt beyond belief.You know the type I mean?Ones that would have a breakdown because their phone battery didn't last as long as they thought it would or their wasn't enough cheese in their Big Mac.
How dare we expect them to stay away from people for a few weeks to save lives?
The temerity of it
NB This isn't aimed at any particular race or nationality.I have noted it nearly everywhere I have been

Mwengwe · 24-03-2020 11:47PM

dougm1970 wrote: »

i dunno.
for instance, its expecting every single adult (single as in not married or a couple)....to not have sex for year.....can humans do that ?

(note - the quote was referring to someone who posted about a year or more social distancing)

I've been doing that most of my life.

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CoVid19 Part X - 1,564 cases ROI (9 deaths) 209 in NI (7 deaths) (25 March) Read OP