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CoVid19 Part X - 1,564 cases ROI (9 deaths) 209 in NI (7 deaths) (25 March) *Read OP*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,392 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    xabi wrote: »

    That would save millions of lives.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,801 ✭✭✭Jurgen Klopp


    There's a swell of opinion now bubbling that some drugs that work on other diseases could well work for covid 19. Early days yet of course but if proven true it could launch us out of this crisis quicker than most could imagine!!

    I've seen that, 3 I think 2 used for Malaria and Cuba has its Alpha 2 so much so that the government here had a meeting about buying in large amounts

    I mean not a cure but if the drugs stopped a nice amount needing hospitalisation or ICU it would be a game changer


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,679 ✭✭✭MAJJ


    I work as a sales rep for a big grocery company calling to Dunnes, spar's, supervalu's every week. I do roughly 7-8 calls per day. The last few weeks has been busy and tough trying to maintain physical distance and washing hands in each call. We have been told we are essential and that our team in Italy are still working.
    With 100's of reps from different companies calling to multiple shops each day across Ireland I feel it is very risky for us catching the virus or spreading it.

    Take care, I appreciate what you are doing, genuinely vital work.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,437 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Corkgirl20 wrote: »
    I can not wait until this is all over !

    Same for all of us : not being able to interact normally with other people is really weird


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 435 ✭✭MipMap


    I've seen that, 3 I think 2 used for Malaria and Cuba has its Alpha 2 so much so that the government here had a meeting about buying in large amounts

    I mean not a cure but if the drugs stopped a nice amount needing hospitalisation or ICU it would be a game changer




    Prime Time tonight deals with this quite well


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,187 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    I work as a sales rep for a big grocery company calling to Dunnes, spar's, supervalu's every week. I do roughly 7-8 calls per day. The last few weeks has been busy and tough trying to maintain physical distance and washing hands in each call. We have been told we are essential and that our team in Italy are still working.
    With 100's of reps from different companies calling to multiple shops each day across Ireland I feel it is very risky for us catching the virus or spreading it.

    Are you merchandising?

    If not it seems like an unnecessary risk.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,286 ✭✭✭beggars_bush


    I work as a sales rep for a big grocery company calling to Dunnes, spar's, supervalu's every week. I do roughly 7-8 calls per day. The last few weeks has been busy and tough trying to maintain physical distance and washing hands in each call. We have been told we are essential and that our team in Italy are still working.
    With 100's of reps from different companies calling to multiple shops each day across Ireland I feel it is very risky for us catching the virus or spreading it.

    You should ask your employer if product placement is more important than the health of staff


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,462 ✭✭✭✭WoollyRedHat


    Don’t you have to have two symptoms now, eg fever and cough, to get a test? Aren’t they trying to cut out people unlikely to have it in order to speed up the testing process?

    This is what confused me but my understanding is that if you have any of symptoms associated with CV you should self-isolate until you receive additional instruction from your GP.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,545 ✭✭✭Martina1991


    irishlad. wrote:
    20,000 people a day seeking a test over the past 10 days according to Dr. Tony.
    You had every hypochondriac in the country seeking testing. Of course they were overwhelmed.
    Does this surprise you? No shows are a huge problem in the health service as well as morons who rock up to A&E that shouldn't be there.

    20,000 a day. Isn't it ridiculous.

    And yet people complain that theres a backlog.

    GPs doing triage over the phone need to be stricter with referring people for testing. In the Covid testing thread many seem to have milder symptoms and have more or less recovered before being called for a test.

    Imagine if everyone that required a test had to go through A&E.
    There would be queues all day everyday and people would say the health service is a disaster.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 7,827 ✭✭✭appledrop


    There are people who asked for test on Monday 16th + are still waiting so I believe the numbers are artificially low. If they wait much longer probably gone out of their system anyway.

    I also think the new rule about having to have 2 symptoms i.e fever + cough is a joke seeing as Dr. Ciara Kelly + Claire Bryne have both publicly come out + said that neither of them had a fever yet both tested positive.

    Remember the WHO rule is test, test, test + we are failing miserably at this at the moment.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,886 ✭✭✭✭Bob24


    This is a European problem. We got pretty much all our cases from northern Italy, not the UK. The lack of any policy by France, Germany, or the UK to handle this crisis until relatively recently seriously jeopardized the success of any action taken here.

    I've heard people criticize Johnson for not acting sooner. I think this is fair. I have heard people criticize him for his current measures being overly draconian. I think this is called 'having your cake and eating it.'

    Agree with you on Italy, France or Spain deserving at least as much criticism as the UK (and some posters particularly focusing on criticising the UK for no valid reason).

    But I think it is too easy an excuse for us as a country to say their actions “seriously jeopardized the success of any action taken here”.

    Sure these countries allowed the virus to establish a stronghold in Europe with their poor reaction. But had our politicians shown leadership they could have introduced travel restrictions and in-country detection and containment mesures a month ago and kept the situation here under control. Singapore, Korea, or Taiwan proved it can be done even when your are neighbouring a massively counts instead area.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭Cork Boy 53


    Strazdas wrote: »
    Same for all of us : not being able to interact normally with other people is really weird

    What we`re experiencing now will be the new normal for a long time to come.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,579 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    punchdrunk wrote: »
    absolutely not- self isolate and book a test!

    Self isolate is what they'll be told.

    Anyone who rings the gp from tomorrow morning wont get a test without 2 symptoms as per the change made this evening.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 700 ✭✭✭kilkenny31


    20,000 a day. Isn't it ridiculous.

    And yet people complain that theres a backlog.

    GPs doing triage over the phone need to be stricter with referring people for testing. In the Covid testing thread many seem to have milder symptoms and have more or less recovered before being called for a test.

    Imagine if everyone that required a test had to go through A&E.
    There would be queues all day everyday and people would say the health service is a disaster.

    No they are right to refer even the mildest of cases. We need to identify as many cases as possible. Maybe that person with a mild dose might pass it to someone who could become more seriously I'll.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,040 ✭✭✭✭castletownman


    Strazdas wrote: »
    Same for all of us : not being able to interact normally with other people is really weird

    Agree.

    My step-granny rang me earlier to apologise that she never sent me a birthday card last week (as if I gave a damn). She has been in isolation by herself in her home with the only visitor her nephew who goes shopping for her everyday and delivers the paper every morning.

    She hurt her back during one of the storms and a bout of shingles and spent some time in hospital, thankfully before this Covid-19 struck. She still has her wits about her, but I could sense her fearfulness over the phone.

    For a woman that's used to having daily visitors, and would be active for her age, it breaks my heart that she is alone through no fault of her own.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,442 ✭✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    Kentucky Governor says 1 person who attended a "coronavirus party" has tested positive for coronavirus




    https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1242587104330350592


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,917 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    I'm mightily impressed by the governor of New York, Andrew Cuomo. The US could do with a guy like him at the top table.
    https://twitter.com/NYGovCuomo/status/1242469263425908736?s=20


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭froog


    Feck off. I'm breathless and tight chest etc but never had a temperature. You haven't a clue what you are talking about.

    Lots of people with it don't have a temperature.

    sounds like you are suffering from anxiety.


  • Posts: 45,738 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Definitely people's going for testing that shouldn't be be.

    94% tests are returning negative!

    Make them more strict, which they have done, and get through the backlog. Test test test and we'll get right on top of it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 435 ✭✭MipMap


    This is what confused me but I understand that if you have any of symptoms associated with CV you should self-isolate until you receive additional instruction from your GP.


    Answer is YES. Only 7% of those who get referred for tests prove positive.


    The are looking for a set of criteria that lets them catch a higher percentage and reduce the waste of time in testing negative cases. I'm sure there are characters out there who feel fine ringing their doctors and saying they have a cough and a fever just because they want a test.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,844 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    I've seen that, 3 I think 2 used for Malaria and Cuba has its Alpha 2 so much so that the government here had a meeting about buying in large amounts

    I mean not a cure but if the drugs stopped a nice amount needing hospitalisation or ICU it would be a game changer

    They have begun clinical trials in Europe based on the most promising drugs already approved for human use.
    www.euronews.com/amp/2020/03/23/clinical-trials-starting-in-europe-as-new-drug-offers-hope-of-potential-coronavirus-treatm
    I believe the WHO are also overseeing a world wide trial also


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,437 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    What we`re experiencing now will be the new normal for a long time to come.

    Possibly for a year or so but the hope would be that a global vaccine would be able to beat the virus down.

    The idea of humans never being able to congregate again in a group setting would be beyond unthinkable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,814 ✭✭✭Thepoet85


    Don't know about anyone else, but I'm struggling mentally being stuck inside so much. Waiting to be tested, and haven't left the house in 11 days. I'm ready to crack.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,099 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


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    The virus doesn't come for Putin, Putin comes for the virus.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,288 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    Just wondering is it the density in cities themselves or is it public transport in particular causing the main issues?


    Wuhan shut down public transport, it's an easy bake over for disease to transmit to others.


  • Posts: 4,896 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    This is what confused me but my understanding is that if you have any of symptoms associated with CV you should self-isolate until you receive additional instruction from your GP.

    GP’s probably then guided by Ireland following the 2 symptoms advice from the WHO.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,749 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    What societal changes do people think will happen when this is all over? Cannot imagine everyone suddenly starts wearing face masks like some Asian countries.
    Or do we go back to the same old thing?
    It's shown lots of people, for example, can easily work from home - is there any need for 10s of thousands of people commuting to work every day
    Will hospitals build in to their infrastructure more safeguards against future pandemics (we still don't know if this thing is going to continue to circulate like the flu or mutate)

    Any other thoughts? Normally normalcy prevails in this thread at this time of night...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 962 ✭✭✭darjeeling


    kilkenny31 wrote: »
    No they are right to refer even the mildest of cases. We need to identify as many cases as possible. Maybe that person with a mild dose might pass it to someone who could become more seriously I'll.

    Longer term it would be great to have the capacity to find every case.

    Testing every one of the 3,300 people in the locked-down Italian town where the first person died found a good number with no symptoms, and putting them in quarantine was what stopped the outbreak in the town.

    Right now I can see a good case for trying to use info gained from the testing to date to target people more likely to be positive so they can be notified more quickly, and their contacts traced.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,749 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Kentucky Governor says 1 person who attended a "coronavirus party" has tested positive for coronavirus

    https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1242587104330350592

    I wish them the worst


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 49 Popquiz_hotshot


    elperello wrote: »
    Are you merchandising?

    If not it seems like an unnecessary risk.

    I do stock count in dunnes and merchandising. Most other calls just order


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