CoVid19 Part X - 1,564 cases ROI (9 deaths) 209 in NI (7 deaths) (25 March) *Read OP*

walshb wrote: »

Why would anyone snipe at, or praise France or Spain?

We have such close ties to Britain..makes sense that we debate them, discuss them, praise them and criticise them...

Truth be known, we’re fixated with England and Britain.

This is a European problem. We got pretty much all our cases from northern Italy, not the UK. The lack of any policy by France, Germany, or the UK to handle this crisis until relatively recently seriously jeopardized the success of any action taken here.

I've heard people criticize Johnson for not acting sooner. I think this is fair. I have heard people criticize him for his current measures being overly draconian. I think this is called 'having your cake and eating it.'

FVP3 wrote: »

Assume 1% I suppose.

I would go with 1% until ICU, staff numbers, ventilator capacity is reached then that number will climb. 80% mild symptoms with 2 weeks til recovery. 14% hospitalisation but would need to get an average weeks stay, same for ICU at 6%, for the 3 scenarios outlined.

fritzelly wrote: »

That would require 50% of all tests to be positive at the current testing rate

It will grow expotentially for around 3 weeks now and then we will see a drop due to the restrictions weve put in place.

But having non essential factorys and building sites open does not help at all. Sites in dublin are made up of mostly people from the 32counties of this country so it will be able to still spread.

Coyote wrote: »

i would agree incomplete, but ICU beds needed over a 3-4 week period do not matter that much, we have what 300-400 of them in the stays the same case with most people needing 14-24 days in ICU they are not leaving before the bed is needed, unless you count dead in 4-5 days of hospital.
if you need 12K ICU beds it does not matter who gets well if you only have 400 of them and they are used for 21 days per person

Please see post above I've posted, I'm sure I've missed some things. Your spread sheet is excellent, id do one myself but I'm useless at such things.

I work as a sales rep for a big grocery company calling to Dunnes, spar's, supervalu's every week. I do roughly 7-8 calls per day. The last few weeks has been busy and tough trying to maintain physical distance and washing hands in each call. We have been told we are essential and that our team in Italy are still working.
With 100's of reps from different companies calling to multiple shops each day across Ireland I feel it is very risky for us catching the virus or spreading it.

xabi wrote: »

https://twitter.com/i/events/1242561544249946112

That would save millions of lives.

Popquiz_hotshot wrote: »

I work as a sales rep for a big grocery company calling to Dunnes, spar's, supervalu's every week. I do roughly 7-8 calls per day. The last few weeks has been busy and tough trying to maintain physical distance and washing hands in each call. We have been told we are essential and that our team in Italy are still working.
With 100's of reps from different companies calling to multiple shops each day across Ireland I feel it is very risky for us catching the virus or spreading it.

Take care, I appreciate what you are doing, genuinely vital work.

Jurgen Klopp wrote: »

I've seen that, 3 I think 2 used for Malaria and Cuba has its Alpha 2 so much so that the government here had a meeting about buying in large amounts

I mean not a cure but if the drugs stopped a nice amount needing hospitalisation or ICU it would be a game changer

Prime Time tonight deals with this quite well

Popquiz_hotshot wrote: »

I work as a sales rep for a big grocery company calling to Dunnes, spar's, supervalu's every week. I do roughly 7-8 calls per day. The last few weeks has been busy and tough trying to maintain physical distance and washing hands in each call. We have been told we are essential and that our team in Italy are still working.
With 100's of reps from different companies calling to multiple shops each day across Ireland I feel it is very risky for us catching the virus or spreading it.

You should ask your employer if product placement is more important than the health of staff

irishlad. wrote:

20,000 people a day seeking a test over the past 10 days according to Dr. Tony.

MrMusician18 wrote:

You had every hypochondriac in the country seeking testing. Of course they were overwhelmed.

MrMusician18 wrote:

Does this surprise you? No shows are a huge problem in the health service as well as morons who rock up to A&E that shouldn't be there.

20,000 a day. Isn't it ridiculous.

And yet people complain that theres a backlog.

GPs doing triage over the phone need to be stricter with referring people for testing. In the Covid testing thread many seem to have milder symptoms and have more or less recovered before being called for a test.

Imagine if everyone that required a test had to go through A&E.
There would be queues all day everyday and people would say the health service is a disaster.

RandomName2 wrote: »

This is a European problem. We got pretty much all our cases from northern Italy, not the UK. The lack of any policy by France, Germany, or the UK to handle this crisis until relatively recently seriously jeopardized the success of any action taken here.

I've heard people criticize Johnson for not acting sooner. I think this is fair. I have heard people criticize him for his current measures being overly draconian. I think this is called 'having your cake and eating it.'

Agree with you on Italy, France or Spain deserving at least as much criticism as the UK (and some posters particularly focusing on criticising the UK for no valid reason).

But I think it is too easy an excuse for us as a country to say their actions “seriously jeopardized the success of any action taken here”.

Sure these countries allowed the virus to establish a stronghold in Europe with their poor reaction. But had our politicians shown leadership they could have introduced travel restrictions and in-country detection and containment mesures a month ago and kept the situation here under control. Singapore, Korea, or Taiwan proved it can be done even when your are neighbouring a massively counts instead area.

punchdrunk wrote: »

absolutely not- self isolate and book a test!

Self isolate is what they'll be told.

Anyone who rings the gp from tomorrow morning wont get a test without 2 symptoms as per the change made this evening.

Strazdas wrote: »

Same for all of us : not being able to interact normally with other people is really weird

Agree.

My step-granny rang me earlier to apologise that she never sent me a birthday card last week (as if I gave a damn). She has been in isolation by herself in her home with the only visitor her nephew who goes shopping for her everyday and delivers the paper every morning.

She hurt her back during one of the storms and a bout of shingles and spent some time in hospital, thankfully before this Covid-19 struck. She still has her wits about her, but I could sense her fearfulness over the phone.

For a woman that's used to having daily visitors, and would be active for her age, it breaks my heart that she is alone through no fault of her own.