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CoVid19 Part X - 1,564 cases ROI (9 deaths) 209 in NI (7 deaths) (25 March) *Read OP*

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  • #6662
    Cork Boy 53
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭Cork Boy 53


    tobefrank321 wrote: »
    Suddenly how? Its called Covid 19. Its been known about since 2019!

    Knowing about it and being directly affected by it are totally different things.


  • #6663
    Coyote
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,239 ✭✭✭Coyote


    woohoo!!! wrote: »
    Interesting chart but incomplete without projected recoveries and deaths.

    i would agree incomplete, but ICU beds needed over a 3-4 week period do not matter that much, we have what 300-400 of them in the stays the same case with most people needing 14-24 days in ICU they are not leaving before the bed is needed, unless you count dead in 4-5 days of hospital.
    if you need 12K ICU beds it does not matter who gets well if you only have 400 of them and they are used for 21 days per person


  • #6664
    Jin luk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 389 ✭✭Jin luk


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    New York is already shut down. Most working from home. No bars open etc.
    Not much different to here. We aren't shut down either.
    Nice broad statement though.

    Mates are in new york and on construction sites same as here just alot more of them over their than here(construction and jobs that are actually continuing and the fact that its spreading their now this while, they refused testing kits from the world a month back makes me and plenty more think its way worse over their than the numbers currently show america is screwed in other words their baboon of a president wants to be back to normal by easter too? Madness


  • #6665
    woohoo!!!
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 803 ✭✭✭woohoo!!!


    grinder23 wrote: »
    Not necessarily know someone today who has no fever whatsoever but has cough and tight chest and suffers from asthma who's gp ordered a test but couldn't give a time frame
    As someone who has experienced all of those things in the past, that could be and most likely to be 1 of a number of things that's not covid.


  • #6666
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    tobefrank321 wrote: »
    Suddenly how? Its called Covid 19. Its been known about since 2019!

    Suddenly as in things were normal in Ireland until very recently compared to some other places. It's pretty shocking how fast things changed in Europe.


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  • #6667
    WoollyRedHat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,462 ✭✭✭✭WoollyRedHat


    Quick question, if someone only has one of the associated symptoms that are minor, eg sore throat, are they ok to continue as normal, unless they begin to develop other major symptoms that accompany it e.g. fever and cough?


  • #6668
    amadangomor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭amadangomor


    BorneTobyWilde wrote: »
    We should be going the same, Dublin is clearly the problem in Ireland. And still its open for business, flying everyone and anyone from UK and Europe into it.

    Just wondering is it the density in cities themselves or is it public transport in particular causing the main issues?


  • #6669
    robinph
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    saabsaab wrote: »
    They have suggested deliveries but there just isn't the capacity and unfortunately people need to get their food somewhere. Anyway I think you misunderstood me as I was using them as an example of the numbers racking up easily in daily life. Also the contact tracing wouldn't pick this up, as there are many cases now origin unknown community acquired etc.


    Of course keep your distance it will reduce your risk in a Supermarket but not eliminate it.

    There have been close to 200 instances of the virus entering a country, or state in the case of the US, them going "oh crap", finding another case and then establishing the links between the cases before things get out of hand. Plenty of chance for one of these initial community transmissions to have been picked up from the tracing if the infection was happening in places like supermarkets or where people were not in direct or very close contact with each other.

    I'm not going to be licking the handle of the shopping trolley in the supermarket or getting overly close with the checkout staff admittedly, but don't think the risks there are anywhere even on the same scale as the risks from public transport and being in an office with hundreds of others for hours on end each day.

    However, telling everyone to keep two meters apart and enforcing that in places like supermarkets is a good way of training people to then do the same when they get on the bus and go to work where they are generally in closer proximity to others anyway.


  • #6670
    froog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭froog


    they should probably write off a big chunk of that backlog and start again with the new criteria.


  • #6671
    spookwoman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    froog wrote: »
    they should probably write off a big chunk of that backlog and start again with the new criteria.
    They may have if he is saying they are up to 22/23


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  • #6672
    murpho999
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,782 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    BorneTobyWilde wrote: »
    We should be going the same, Dublin is clearly the problem in Ireland. And still its open for business, flying everyone and anyone from UK and Europe into it.

    Airport is dead, flights are almost empty.

    Most returning Irish people home.
    People arriving from countries like Spain or Italy are required to self isolate.

    I think people are placing too much focus on this.

    It's spreading amongst the community not from foreigners.


  • #6673
    kingshankly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,018 ✭✭✭kingshankly


    FVP3 wrote: »
    The DART I was on at 9AM in Pearse St, had 2 other people.

    Northern commuter peak trains running about 15%
    During the day very few on the trains


  • #6674
    amadangomor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭amadangomor


    WoollyRedHat wrote: »
    Quick question, if someone only has one of the associated symptoms that are minor, eg sore throat, are they ok to continue as normal, unless they begin to develop other major symptoms that accompany it e.g. fever and cough?

    I would say self isolate until you talk to you GP and ask them.


  • #6675
    Cork Boy 53
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭Cork Boy 53


    The_Brood wrote: »
    One thing I'm not finding information on after today's news is how long have work from home measures been extended by? In the initial announcement a few weeks ago they were only scheduled until 27 March, but as evident this lockdown is continuing past that. By have they announced a new date for when non essential staff are asked to work from home if they can?

    I assume until at least 19th April. In reality it will be far longer than that.


  • #6676
    FVP3
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,187 ✭✭✭FVP3


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    Oh it's a democrats v republicans type thing. Yeah no thanks. No interest in petty politics. Peace

    Oh but you are, as is clear from your posting history.

    And it is, over there, a Republican vs Democrat issue with many Republicans wanting to go back to work.

    In general I don't care about US partisan politics as both are imperialist as each other, but in this case the democrats are definitely being more responsible.


  • #6677
    Ficheall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,038 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    woohoo!!! wrote: »
    Interesting chart but incomplete without projected recoveries and deaths.
    Go easy on him, he only has one arse to pull numbers out of.


  • #6678
    Absoluvely
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,323 ✭✭✭Absoluvely


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    Anyone worrying about ICU beds at 35 people rn needs to calm a little bit. My father is a senior executive in the HSE, and he has told me that ICU numbers are approaching 3 times what we had before this.

    Moy daddy is the highest-earning partner in KPMG


  • #6679
    darced
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,056 ✭✭✭darced


    spookwoman wrote: »
    They may have if he is saying they are up to 22/23

    How could they be up to 22/23, I was tested 19th. No news, its only a text message if you are negative. That has to be bull.


  • #6680
    briany
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,046 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Thargor wrote: »
    Is anyone else just in total shock that this is happening and how suddenly it came along? I forget about it then remember that its happening all over again a minute after my alarm goes off every morning, its absolutely mad when you think about it. Bill Gates was warning us we were completely unprepared for a pandemic in his TED talks from 2015 onwards.

    Imagine if this was some kind of airborne Ebola that was actually killing 90% of the people who got it, society would just collapse.

    On a human timescale, pandemics like COVID-19 are pretty rare in the west. The last thing to really compare it to was probably Spanish Flu and that was 100 years ago. If you had the extra capacity needed to deal with an epidemic always on hand, it'd probably be the first thing cut in budget restructuring.

    It seems to be a poor part of human nature. As a society we're not really prepared for many of potential crises facing us. If a large asteroid struck the Earth tomorrow or a supervolcano exploded, we'd most probably say we were woefully underprepared. Even for less speculative disaster such as energy shortages or climate change - things we can visibly see coming down the line - there is very little preparedness for these eventualities. Not really surprising, therefore, that there wasn't that much epidemic readiness.


  • #6681
    amadangomor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭amadangomor


    froog wrote: »
    they should probably write off a big chunk of that backlog and start again with the new criteria.

    Feck off. I'm breathless and tight chest etc but never had a temperature. You haven't a clue what you are talking about.

    Lots of people with it don't have a temperature.


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  • #6682
    dan786
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,341 ✭✭✭dan786


    The first known death of a child due to the novel coronavirus in the United States has been reported, despite the disease not typically proving severe for juveniles.

    The death of a "youth under the age of 18" from Lancaster, just north of Los Angeles, was confirmed in a statement by county health officials.


  • #6683
    MipMap
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 435 ✭✭MipMap


    Fergal: Well Tony can you tell us a little bit more about the testing process.


    Tony: SO .... Well Fergal with regard to the testing process we are basically hitting it in spots!


  • #6684
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,180 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    I reckon we will see our surge start some day this week. Most other countries it tends to be sudden and fast. Be surprised if we didn't see a +1,000 for a daily figure by Monday or Tuesday. We are still on the taxi way waiting for takeoff.


  • #6685
    Rob A. Bank
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭Rob A. Bank


    murpho999 wrote: »
    Airport is dead, flights are almost empty.

    Most returning Irish people home.
    People arriving from countries like Spain or Italy are required to self isolate.

    I think people are placing too much focus on this.

    It's spreading amongst the community not from foreigners.

    A ridiculous unproven statement... It's spreading from both !


  • #6686
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,140 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    WoollyRedHat wrote: »
    Quick question, if someone only has one of the associated symptoms that are minor, eg sore throat, are they ok to continue as normal, unless they begin to develop other major symptoms that accompany it e.g. fever and cough?

    Ask your GP. A phone call is all it takes.


  • #6687
    punchdrunk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,355 ✭✭✭punchdrunk


    WoollyRedHat wrote: »
    Quick question, if someone only has one of the associated symptoms that are minor, eg sore throat, are they ok to continue as normal, unless they begin to develop other major symptoms that accompany it e.g. fever and cough?

    absolutely not- self isolate and book a test!


  • #6688
    Quantum Erasure
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,639 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    tobefrank321 wrote: »
    Suddenly how? Its called Covid 19. Its been known about since 2019!

    Health authorities in Wuhan, the capital of Hubei province, China, reported a cluster of pneumonia cases of unknown cause on 31 December 2019,[230] and an investigation was launched in early January 2020

    first thread here was started on 21st January, and was relatively quiet for the first month


  • #6689
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,142 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    I reckon we will see our surge start some day this week. Most other countries it tends to be sudden and fast. Be surprised if we didn't see a +1,000 for a daily figure by Monday or Tuesday. We are still on the taxi way waiting for takeoff.

    That would require 50% of all tests to be positive at the current testing rate


  • #6690
    darjeeling
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 962 ✭✭✭darjeeling


    is_that_so wrote: »
    No, he said 22nd-23rd in the NVRL and that 18000 have received results. They also mentioned the 20000 a day looking for tests, which from the perspective of this are not practical or useful to test. I think they expect their new definitions to have much higher level of positives.

    That sounds like a very good idea - if the system is clogged up with a huge backlog of tests that you know will be 95% negative, then finding a way to filter out a lot of the negatives means you can find the positives in a time that will be much more useful.


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  • #6691
    JanuarySnowstor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,393 ✭✭✭JanuarySnowstor


    There's a swell of opinion now bubbling that some drugs that work on other diseases could well work for covid 19. Early days yet of course but if proven true it could launch us out of this crisis quicker than most could imagine!!


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