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CoVid19 Part X - 1,564 cases ROI (9 deaths) 209 in NI (7 deaths) (25 March) *Read OP*

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  • #6572
    BLIZZARD7
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,002 ✭✭✭BLIZZARD7


    https://twitter.com/fox4/status/1242445397580283905?s=21

    :eek:


  • #6573
    cj maxx
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,782 ✭✭✭✭cj maxx


    amadangomor wrote: »
    No dice :) Hand sanitiser needs to be 60% alcohol to be effective against CV

    That's what the worm and barrel is for :)


  • #6574
    lbj666
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,027 ✭✭✭lbj666


    Closing offies means the big supermarkets will make a killing. Closing all offies including those in supermarkets would have led to the mother of all chaos, its would be like 9.59pm on Holy Thursday pre 2018 x 1000. There would be riots, it sounds rediculous and absurd but its the most practical solution.


  • #6575
    Blueshoe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    GooglePlus wrote: »
    Well I've been redeployed to contact trace along with a load of others, what are you doing?

    Good to hear. As many hands as possible. I'm working as per usual. Where have you been redeployed from?


  • #6576
    Roger_007
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,886 ✭✭✭✭Roger_007


    BorneTobyWilde wrote: »
    Dr Fauci is back

    He's like the Good Angel on Trumps shoulder , while Barr is the Devil on the other shoulder
    Trump must have been a Dublin taxi driver in a former existence...........he has the, (bleedin obvious), answer to everything.


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  • #6577
    2lazytogetup
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 862 ✭✭✭2lazytogetup


    Suggest reading the first thread from Jan 2020. Intriguing vhow some sawthis coming


  • #6578
    flashforward
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 325 ✭✭flashforward


    Quantum Erasure wrote: »
    waiting on a backlog of 40,000 tests ... the calm before the storm, before the surge

    With the delays in getting swabbed coupled with the delay in getting a result from that swab we dont have a clue where we really are with this thing.

    The labs only have capacity to get results from 1350 tests per day. This means that unless we can increase that capacity we will sit on ~200 cases per day


  • #6579
    amadangomor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭amadangomor


    expectationlost wrote: »
    yeah somebody asked holohan that and he said if you have symptoms isolate and call your doctor and they'll decide, its aimed at doctors filtering calls from public

    The temperature thing could put a lot of people with other symptoms ringing the doctor.

    I put my suspected case down to a cold as I had a cough for two weeks with no temperature,only when I was breathless one morning at work did I realise this isn't normal and called the doctor.


  • #6580
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,448 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Snowbiee21 wrote: »
    1,329 confirmed cases...24 days after our 1st confirmed case. Compare that to Italy...they had 150 confirmed cases 24 days after their first.

    Nobody really believes thats all they had. They only tested people in hospital. Cant compare the 2


  • #6581
    McCrack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,012 ✭✭✭McCrack


    expectationlost wrote: »
    heres the list it doesn't list off licences https://assets.gov.ie/71888/ad3d22b7619c4c5d8308d79a606508e5.pdf

    Yes it does

    Number 1 on the list


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  • #6582
    ArchXStanton
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,912 ✭✭✭ArchXStanton


    My mother rang me there today, said one of her friends sons was waiting to be tested... He was part of the Cheltenham idiot brigade


  • #6583
    CIARAN_BOYLE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,599 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    Roger_007 wrote: »
    Am I alone in thinking that public transport is probably the single most common way in which a virus is spread. You are in a confined space for a considerable length of time with up to 100 other humans.
    That’s what needs to be shut down.

    It's a fair point. However urgent journeys still have to be made. Workers still working need to be able to reach their jobs if they are still working.

    Assuming people are responsible and only travel as necessary public transport congestion should reduce. Then again as a society people arent responsible in general so steps may have to be taken.
    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    I reckon it should only be running in the mornings for the work-run and the evenings for the trip home.

    The problem then is you force people who are using public transport to make essential journeys to travel during rush hour reducing social distancing.

    I have moved to work from home. I travelled home with enough work (laptop printer client files etc) to keep me busy for maybe two weeks. When that time is up I will need to travel into the office with client files and pick up other files to keep work going. I would prefer to do an in out trip in the middle of the day when usage is lower. If I need to travel in at rush hour work the day in the office and travel out at rush hour I would be exposed to a lot more people.


  • #6584
    Blueshoe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    The Eurozone once again showing what a shoddy construct it is by planning to use its bailout funds to bail out Europe's feckless economies.

    If they managed their affairs properly like Germany bailouts would not be required because they would have to space to handle the problem.

    Same thing over and over again.

    The German economy was technically almost in recession before this even started. They have turned into a massive welfare state and are production economy. Not enough of their export products were being bought.

    https://www.investmenteurope.net/opinion/4006501/german-recession-means-rest-europe


  • #6585
    pH
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,188 ✭✭✭pH


    marno21 wrote: »
    They had the pubs open 3 nights before this “lockdown”. Massive backtracking by them.

    Yep they closed pubs on the 20th, we closed then 4 whole days earlier on the 16th. Was that massive backtracking by the Irish govt?

    Remember 4 days before that (12th March) Leo was taking this all so seriously he was in the USA on a pre-paddy's day junket as he announced school closures and event closures (but no pub closures).

    Was it 'massive backtracking' when 4 days later he closed the pubs?

    And I have searched for Boris' statement that the UK was following a 'herd immunity' approach. Perhaps you can link to it, or one made by any member of the UK govt?


  • #6586
    Pablo Escobar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 668 ✭✭✭Pablo Escobar


    2lazytogetup wrote: »
    Suggest reading the first thread from Jan 2020. Intriguing vhow some sawthis coming

    When the figures from China were compared over a number of days and combined with the emergence of international figures it was inevitable IMO. I did my ‘shop’ in late January. It ended up being useful as it covered me for stuff that I couldn’t get when the rush came a couple of weeks ago.


  • #6587
    Quantum Erasure
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,639 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    2lazytogetup wrote: »
    Suggest reading the first thread from Jan 2020. Intriguing vhow some sawthis coming

    i thought i saw it coming, I didn't see this coming...


  • #6588
    flashforward
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 325 ✭✭flashforward


    Stheno wrote: »
    I have to say I found tonight's briefing very reassuring

    We're well below the projected figures we are testing more than other countries and we are doing ok

    I'm three weeks wfh at the moment and honest to God if you told me three weeks ago my life would change this much I'd have laughed

    I have to say I'm not a Leo fan but the two Simon's are fighting a blinder

    Simon Harris looks unwell, I hope he is ok

    I got the exact opposite of what you interpreted.

    Right now we are only getting results from 1350 swabs per day. This is pathetic and we will only see ~5 >20% of these testing positive which means unless we take the finger out of the arse we are blind to what's really going on


  • #6589
    saabsaab
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,740 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    Unfortunately cases manifest in clusters. It is not a uniform distribution. Most of the cases could be in one area and you rock up thinking you've got a 1 in 300 chance of contracting it. Epidemics don't work like that.

    The probability is varies massively. There's a reason they say assume everyone has it.


    I agree! i was trying to show how are risk people are. You need to assume that now. If you enter a supermarket during the day you will be in contact with say 100 people and all those who have gone earlier!


  • #6590
    mattser
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,346 ✭✭✭mattser


    Stheno wrote: »
    I have to say I found tonight's briefing very reassuring

    We're well below the projected figures we are testing more than other countries and we are doing ok

    I'm three weeks wfh at the moment and honest to God if you told me three weeks ago my life would change this much I'd have laughed

    I have to say I'm not a Leo fan but the two Simon's are fighting a blinder

    Simon Harris looks unwell, I hope he is ok

    Simon very impressive on Prime Time. Always looks a bit wan. We're lucky to have himself, Leo, and the other Simon at this time.


  • #6591
    Corkgirl20
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 196 ✭✭Corkgirl20


    ArchXStanton wrote: »
    My mother rang me there today, said one of her friends sons was waiting to be tested... He was part of the Cheltenham idiot brigade


    Somebody working in a private clinic in Cork who had been to Cheltenham tested positive today. Not saying he got it from Cheltenham, could have been from a patient. But whoever went to Cheltenham is an idiot.


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  • #6592
    Coyote
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,239 ✭✭✭Coyote


    posting this again due to the speed of the thread
    No Change in number
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    Slow Change
    506893.PNG

    Big Drop in numbers
    506894.PNG

    again with all of this i'm just trying to show people the 14 day delay in an change in how we deal with this
    if you wait till we are overloaded it's too late
    everyone has to make up there own mind but at least look at the maths

    3 weeks no change 42K
    3 weeks slow change 23K
    3 weeks big drop 9K

    1 month no change 241K
    1 month slow change 56K
    1 month big drop 11K

    you need to decide what you do today to affect 3 weeks from now


  • #6593
    Quantum Erasure
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,639 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    pH wrote: »
    And I have searched for Boris' statement that the UK was following a 'herd immunity' approach. Perhaps you can link to it, or one made by any member of the UK govt?

    the phrase 'herd immunity' wasn't used, but that was what they were going for


  • #6594
    dummy_crusher
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 114 ✭✭dummy_crusher


    Quantum Erasure wrote: »
    i thought you wouldn't necessarily have a fever, Claire Byrne didn't have one

    Not necessarily AFAIK.

    Worth noting is that in or around 98% of global cases requiring hospitalisation had fever.

    Edit: I just looked it up, don't mind me, I'm tired - 100% of ICU cases in the Wang study (n=138) had fever.

    Not much to go on really...

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-symptoms/


  • #6595
    pH
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,188 ✭✭✭pH


    Quantum Erasure wrote: »
    the phrase 'herd immunity' wasn't used, but that was what they were going for

    You just 'know that' do you? link please.


  • #6596
    pawdee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 558 ✭✭✭pawdee


    MipMap wrote: »
    Saw this in RTE news!
    This is ridiculous!

    Ok Father Matthew. Relax.


  • #6597
    Roger_007
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,886 ✭✭✭✭Roger_007


    Just watching Dr Fauci at the press conference in Washington. He’s the only credible person on that platform.


  • #6598
    careless sherpa
    Closed Accounts Posts: 373 ✭✭careless sherpa


    2lazytogetup wrote: »
    Suggest reading the first thread from Jan 2020. Intriguing vhow some sawthis coming

    The threads on this site will make an interesting document for someone to be pouring over 200 years from now.


  • #6599
    Kingston Plain Truck
    Posts: 13,688 ✭✭✭✭ Kingston Plain Truck


    A woman in the Land of the Free was billed $34,927.43 for Covid-19 testing and treatment.

    https://time.com/5806312/coronavirus-treatment-cost/


  • #6600
    GM228
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,922 ✭✭✭GM228


    Ireland Coronavirus Statistics - Day 25 - Tuesday 24/03/2020

    Today's Stats:-
    Total cases: 1329
    Daily case increase: 18.13%
    Daily case confirmation increase/decrease: -6.85%
    Mortality rate: 0.53%
    Recovery rate: 0.38%
    Poplulation infected: 0.027%

    Average daily cases change since day 1 (29/02/20): 38.20%
    Average daily cases change last 10 days (since 15/03/20): 26.67%
    Average daily cases change last 7 days (since 18/03/20): 24.69%
    Average daily cases last 3 days (since 22/03/20): 19.24%

    Average daily case confirmation since day 1 (29/02/20): 47.17%
    Average daily case confirmation last 10 days (since 15/03/20): 27.04%
    Average daily case confirmation last 7 days (since 18/03/20): 29.29%
    Average daily case confirmation last 3 days (since 22/03/20): 30.92%


    For comparrison, yesterdays day 1, 3 day, 7 day and 10 day averages:-
    GM228 wrote: »
    Average daily cases change since day 1 (29/02/20): 39.04%
    Average daily cases change last 10 days (since 14/03/20): 29.19%
    Average daily cases change last 7 days (since 17/03/20): 26.52%
    Average daily cases last 3 days (since 21/03/20): 18.17%

    Average daily case confirmation since day 1 (29/02/20): 49.42%
    Average daily case confirmation last 10 days (since 14/03/20): 37.22%
    Average daily case confirmation last 7 days (since 17/03/20): 34.24%
    Average daily case confirmation last 3 days (since 21/03/20): 26.86%



    DAY
    |
    DATE
    |
    Cases
    |
    New Cases
    |
    Total Cases
    |
    Case Increase
    |
    Daily Reporting Change
    |
    Deaths to date
    |
    Mortality Rate
    |
    Hospitalised
    |
    Hospital Rate
    |
    ICU
    |
    ICU Rate
    |
    *Recovered
    |
    Recovery Rate
    |
    Population %

    1|29/02/2020|0|1|1|0.00%|0%|0|N/A|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|0.000%
    2|01/03/2020|1|0|1|0.00%|0%|0|N/A|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|0.000%
    3|02/03/2020|1|0|1|0.00%|0%|0|N/A|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|0.000%
    4|03/03/2020|1|1|2|100.00%|0%|0|N/A|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|0.000%
    5|04/03/2020|2|4|6|200.00%|300.00%|0|N/A|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|0.000%
    6|05/03/2020|6|7|13|116.67%|75.00%|0|N/A|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|0.000%
    7|06/03/2020|13|5|18|38.46%|-28.57%|0|N/A|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|0.000%
    8|07/03/2020|18|1|19|5.56%|-80.00%|0|N/A|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|0.000%
    9|08/03/2020|19|2|21|10.53%|100.00%|0|N/A|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|0.000%
    10|09/03/2020|21|3|24|14.29%|50.00%|0|N/A|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|0.000%
    11|10/03/2020|24|10|34|41.67%|233.33%|0|N/A|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|0.001%
    12|11/03/2020|34|9|43|26.47%|-10.00%|1|2.33%|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|0.001%
    13|12/03/2020|43|27|70|62.79%|200.00%|1|1.43%|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|0.001%
    14|13/03/2020|70|20|90|28.57%|-25.93%|1|1.11%|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|0.002%
    15|14/03/2020|90|39|129|43.33%|95.00%|2|1.55%|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|0.003%
    16|15/03/2020|129|40|169|31.01%|2.56%|2|1.18%|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|0.003%
    17|16/03/2020|169|54|223|31.95%|35.00%|2|0.90%|84|37.7%|6|2.69%|5|2.24%|0.005%
    18|17/03/2020|223|69|292|30.94%|27.78%|2|0.68%|108|37%|7|2.40%|5|1.71%|0.006%
    19|18/03/2020|292|74|366|25.34%|7.25%|2|0.55%|140|38.8%|12|3.28%%|5|1.37%|0.007%
    20|19/03/2020|366|191|557|52.19%|158.11%|3|0.54%|173|31.1%|13|2.33%|5|0.9%|0.011%
    21|20/03/2020|557|126|683|22.62%|-34.03%|3|0.44%|211|30.9%|13|1.90%|5|0.73%|0.014%
    22|21/03/2020|683|102|785|14.93%|-19.05%|3|0.38%|239|30.4%|25|3.18%|5|0.64%|0.016%
    23|22/03/2020|785|121|906|15.41%|18.63%|4|0.44%|277|30.6%|36|3.97%|5|0.64%|0.018%
    24|23/03/2020|906|219|1125|24.17%|80.99%|6|0.53%|NR|NR|36|3.20%|5|0.44%|0.023%
    25|24/03/2020|1129|204|1329|18.13%|-6.85%|7|0.53%|NR|NR|36|2.71%|5|0.38%|0.027%

    NR = Not Reported

    Source: Department of Health

    *"Recovered" rates are not reported by the Department of Health in the above link, these figures are taken from the Worldmeters and Johns Hopkins websites which use data suplied by the DoT to the ECDC under the WHO Guidelines for reporting.

    Day 20 - Thursday 19/03/20 Stats
    Day 21 - Friday 20/03/20 Stats
    Day 22 - Saturday 21/03/20 Stats
    Day 23 - Sunday 22/03/20 Stats
    Day 24 - Monday 23/03/20 Stats


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  • #6601
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    flashforward wrote: »
    With the delays in getting swabbed coupled with the delay in getting a result from that swab we dont have a clue where we really are with this thing.

    The labs only have capacity to get results from 1350 tests per day. This means that unless we can increase that capacity we will sit on ~200 cases per day
    They are 1-2 days behind in the NVRL he said. He also pointed out that positive tests are about 6%-7%. Holohan said in one of the earlier briefings that flu test positives are often in the order of 40% and that they expected this testing to go way higher than 7%. They've now changed the case definition for GPs so that they prioritise the most likely cases. Their thinking is that people are infected with other things and they need a better focus on probable cases.


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