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CoVid19 Part X - 1,564 cases ROI (9 deaths) 209 in NI (7 deaths) (25 March) *Read OP*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 886 ✭✭✭cosanostra


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    Why did the sign language ladies swap. One just ran away

    They get tired! they only do it for so long then they swap i think there's usually 3 or 4 of them


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 610 ✭✭✭Minnie Snuggles


    KiKi III wrote: »
    Don't think so.

    They have 5 deaths out of 1.8million people. We have 6 deaths out of 4.8million people. Unless we have a dramatic spike in death toll today, their mortality rate is much higher.

    I think in the North and in England, there is no community testing. They only test if patients who are admitted to hospital.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,917 Mod ✭✭✭✭shesty


    You had every hypochondriac in the country seeking testing. Of course they were overwhelmed.

    I briefly tuned into Matt Cooper there this evening, and apparently someone doing some of the testing texted in to say that 10 people didn't show to appointments on Sunday.
    What an almighty waste of time and resources....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,394 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    cjmc wrote: »
    But I thought the fever , if it comes, takes 5+ days to manifest. And fever isn't afaik seen in everyone.

    2-14 days. Usually about 5.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 298 ✭✭anplaya27


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    Why did the sign language ladies swap. One just ran away

    Deaf Irish Sign Language user here. It's very complex interpreting a visual language into a spoken one and vice versa. Different part of the brain is used. It gets very tiring. The quality of the interpretation deteriorates hence them swapping. They usually work in pairs , interpreting for twenty minutes at a time.

    The general public does not really know the full extent of previous oppressive state and church policies regarding the Deaf community. Irish Sign Language, once banned from use, was recognised as an official native language of Ireland in 2017, hence why we can access this information in our own language now. It is the native language of the Deaf community and has been in existence for hundreds of years. Sign Languages are full languages, just like spoken ones. Every native one is different, with dialects, regional variations, accents and so on. Deaf people tend to have very poor English literacy here due to the previous education system and because of the disparities between spoken and visual languages. After all they cannot hear it being spoken, yet are expected to understand. Getting information in our own language is best for us however, it is not easily accessible.

    And no, it is not Lámh. I really wish people would educate themselves on that. Lámh is a made up form of communication. It was put together in the 1980s by a group of academics. It consists of single ISL signs (i think 500) simplified and paired with spoken English. They have something similiar in the UK, it is called Makaton and consists of single British Sign Language signs paired with spoken English. Deaf people do not speak when signing as it is a silent, visual, expressive language consisting of movements that include the face,lips,eyes, hands and body. In fact the majority of Deaf people are prelingually deaf and have never heard a spoken language being spoken. Irish Sign Language is their first and native language. Lámh is a communication tool, not language and is used for hearing children who are non verbal or have intellectual disabilities and have difficulties expressing themselves.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Digital dashboard launched with the daily county figures, age profiles, etc:

    http://geohive.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/a192b58ba6904c1494f651706c223520

    Good start hopefully we really are going the Singapore route. The clustering on the Singapore dashboard is quite good. Also the case level information around how long people are in hospital and ICU etc.

    Check it out.

    https://www.againstcovid19.com/singapore/


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    cosanostra wrote: »
    They get tired! they only do it for so long then they swap i think there's usually 3 or 4 of them

    Public sector. Am I right. Lol


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,293 ✭✭✭billybonkers


    Paddy Cosgrave getting a good calling out there.

    Absolute twat


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,027 ✭✭✭lbj666


    So, I still can't understand this. Or maybe I can.

    Britain 66 million.
    Ireland 5 million
    66/5= 13

    Britain coronavirus deaths: 424
    Ireland coronavirus deaths: 7
    424/7= 60

    Pro rata, Ireland should have 37 deaths.

    What are we doing right or what are they doing wrong? Or what have they done wrong more likely.

    Population density and more uncertainty of the strategy to take


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,701 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,127 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    Dr. Tony taking that attention seeking prick Paddy Cosgrove to task. Happy to see that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,226 ✭✭✭Valhallapt


    Aegir wrote: »
    The Uk has roughly the same population at France, but half the number of fatalities.

    I think that is the most telling stat.

    I think it started earlier in France, maybe U.K. is a week behind france


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,027 ✭✭✭lbj666


    Paddy Cosgrave getting a good calling out there.

    Absolute twat

    Where? Where?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,980 ✭✭✭Panrich


    Digital dashboard launched with the daily county figures, age profiles, etc:

    http://geohive.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/a192b58ba6904c1494f651706c223520

    While it's good to have this information, it's like a TY project. The county graph is particularly awful.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    No, I ask because up to yesterday they gave the gender and age of people who passed then didn’t yesterday for some reason.

    No news = good news.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,252 ✭✭✭deisedevil


    The situation is fluid, I'm wary one of putting faith in (conservative) projections seven days never mind three weeks from now. I'm pleased in the immediate term that the rate of increase is <20%. Obviously the increased prolificacy of testing will change that, however one find must solace where they can.

    Doesn't the amount of people testing positive mean next to nothing seeing as our testing system has been a disaster so far (understandable given the circumstances) It's not working well enough yet for the numbers to mean anything at all.

    The most positive thing is the rate of deaths and those in ICU. Are these running at a slower rate than that of Italy and Spain I wonder? It does seem we haven't been doing to bad in this regard and this must give some hope?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,490 ✭✭✭Ninthlife


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    Public sector. Am I right. Lol

    Give it a break ffs


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    anplaya27 wrote: »
    Deaf ISL user here. It's very complex interpreting a visual language into a spoken one and vice versa. Different part of the brain is used. It gets very tiring. The quality of the interpretation deteriorates hence them swapping. They usually work in pairs , interpreting for twenty minutes at a time.

    Ah ok fair enough. Good answer. I didn't know. I just saw one of them dash of stage


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,085 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    shesty wrote: »
    I briefly tuned into Matt Cooper there this evening, and apparently someone doing some of the testing texted in to say that 10 people didn't show to appointments on Sunday.
    What an almighty waste of time and resources....

    Sure with the waiting lists to get tested they may have recovered before getting tested.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,449 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Holohan although saying he hadn't seen paddy Cosgraves tweets, called it out for what it is, disgraceful and a breach of privacy


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    Mention of a high profile person on Twitter revealing info about a deceased person.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,239 ✭✭✭Coyote


    The situation is fluid, I'm wary one of putting faith in (conservative) projections seven days never mind three weeks from now. I'm pleased in the immediate term that the rate of increase is <20%. Obviously the increased prolificacy of testing will change that, however one must find solace where they can.

    Hi Berties

    i total agree, the number are conservative, i put up number last night with higher numbers, it to show that any change in how people meet and deal with others needs to be put in place at least 14 days before you see the affect
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,330 ✭✭✭blackcard


    When Tony Holohan talks about 5 contacts per case, does he mean that the person who tested positive had only been in contact with 5 people after being tested?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 801 ✭✭✭frillyleaf


    Unlikely. We can't do stuff like that in a liberal democracy apparantly. Ring your GP, Gardai or maybe let your TD know about it. Its clowns like her who are spreading covid 19. She'll probably be in the queue panic buying tomorrow.

    There was a reason the Chinese forcefully quarantined positive cases, it was to protect others from them.

    Because of people like her it will take us years to resolve this.

    I feel feel the tests are taking too long to come and people described as above won’t take it seriously. That’s the fundamental difference, we aren’t quarantined here where as far people with a temperature were likely packed away and quarantined in China to protect others.

    Some people just don’t take it seriously at all. I’m sure people like this person described is out using ATM machines etc


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    Ninthlife wrote: »
    Give it a break ffs

    It's a joke ffs. Take a break


  • Posts: 5,518 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Valhallapt wrote: »
    I think it started earlier in France, maybe U.K. is a week behind france

    I don’t think there is any maybe about it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,505 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    Change in case definition for a test.

    As expected a large number of people simply with a cough or even a bit of a head cold looking for testing.

    Must have 2 symptoms now, previously cough or fever, now both.
    was that Paul Cullen Irish Times that asked that question which document did he spot the change in I don't see it here https://www2.hse.ie/conditions/coronavirus/coronavirus.html

    it is here
    Ireland has adopted the World Health Organisation case definition for COVID-19; A patient with fever and at least one sign of respiratory disease e.g. cough, shortness of breath.
    https://www.gov.ie/en/press-release/e378fd-statement-from-the-national-public-health-emergency-team-on-tuesday-/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 208 ✭✭1wizards sleeve


    Outstanding work by the government and the HSE. And the private hospitals to join together. One for all and all for one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,226 ✭✭✭Valhallapt


    Dr. Tony taking that attention seeking prick Paddy Cosgrove to task. Happy to see that.

    Got a link, I’d like to see


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,484 ✭✭✭Andrew00


    Can you still have sex during this pandemic or is that a breach of social distancing?


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