CoVid19 Part X - 1,564 cases ROI (9 deaths) 209 in NI (7 deaths) (25 March) *Read OP*

Xertz wrote: »

I know a few people who opted to stay in Spain, basically on the assumption that it would be better handled anywhere except by the HSE, due to the coverage of the Irish health service over the last few years and during the election. I'm not saying it's not deserved, but so far the HSE seems to be doing relatively ok, so far anyway.

I do understand the lack of trust in the HSE but it’s very different experience being treated in a country where English is first language in my experience. Although most people in Spain speak English I was in a situation a few years ago where I needed to liaise with Spanish people and none of them spoke English. If was quite difficult and only for google translate I would have needed a translator to get the information I needed.

It’s easier to be at home if you have family that can help support you too. I hope anyone who chose to stay gets the support they need. That’s very hard on them

bekker wrote: »

IT reported this morning that HSE confirmed to them that we only have the current capacity to process 33% of 4,500 daily tests. Apparently all the extra hospital base labs that were announced are tied up processing internal testing.

This is extremely serious, as it also reported that some of the tests may be too degraded to process.

We now appear to be in the situation of a 40,000 test backlog, and when 4,500 daily tests achieved a 3,000 daily processing backlog being added to the existing backlog of tests awaiting processing.

Though some of us here have long suspected the development of this scenario, it's still frightening to have it confirmed.

Can we send them abroad?

pjohnson wrote: »

Texas. I'm suprise he didnt suggest more people use their guns to fight the virus.

Well, have they tried ??

Yakult wrote: »

I hear Madegascan hospitals aren't too occupied so we could send there :pac:

TBF China probably have spare capacity at this stage

frillyleaf wrote: »

I do understand the lack of trust in the HSE but it’s very different experience being treated in a country where English is first language in my experience. Although most people in Spain speak English I was in a situation a few years ago where I needed to liaise with Spanish people and none of them spoke English. If was quite difficult and only for google translate I would have needed a translator to get the information I needed.

It’s easier to be at home if you have family that can help support you too. I hope anyone who chose to stay gets the support they need. That’s very hard on them

yup, had a family member seriously ill in France. Although the health service was great, the language barrier was challenging (and added to the emotional stress of it all). Despite us having decent French, and the staff having ok English, it was really very hard to communicate with the necessary and bespoke vocab that medical treatment requires.

walshb wrote: »

What numbers are we looking at today?

0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9 is all the numbers that exist

Tacitus Kilgore wrote: »

The other poster is berating doctors who are trying to come here to help.

I asked him what's he doing since they're such arseholes coming back to give a hand.

You piped up about them being paid for being doctors - shock feckin' horror!

I asked you wtf are you on about, and you've asked me what I'm doing -

I'm doing fuck all, the exact thing I'm supposed to be doing, working from home and only leaving the house when I need shopping. If I was a doctor, I'd like to think I'd be doctoring. What are you up to? Have anything nice for lunch? xx

Read the posts back again like a good lad and try to understand what's going on
You've completely misunderstood my sarcasm. You saying that doctors are helping is like me saying that a production operator in a ventilation manufacturers is helping, when they're just doing their job, they're not volunteering for free. That was my point. It's simple, yet I had to spell it out for you.

walshb wrote: »

What numbers are we looking at today?

Seems to be about a 20% increase daily rather than 30% so probably about 260

frillyleaf wrote: »

I do understand the lack of trust in the HSE but it’s very different experience being treated in a country where English is first language in my experience. Although most people in Spain speak English I was in a situation a few years ago where I needed to liaise with Spanish people and none of them spoke English. If was quite difficult and only for google translate I would have needed a translator to get the information I needed.

It’s easier to be at home if you have family that can help support you too. I hope anyone who chose to stay gets the support they need. That’s very hard on them

When I was in hospital in Spain, treatment was excellent, and system functioned pretty smoothly.

But there was a requirement that if you didn't speak Spanish, you had to be accompanied by a Spanish speaker who could interpret between you and medical staff.

Luckily my fractured Spanish, and the fact that I came via the local centro de salud (who to be honest were pissed at my non-understanding of medical Spanish), led to the requirement being ignored and I was ambulanced to a full hospital about 30 minutes away.

cameramonkey wrote: »

They are only testing 2000 daily , they said they would bump it up to 4500. So does this mean they have only current capacity to process 33%of 2000 or 4500?

It seems pretty clear from what you quoted:

'IT reported this morning that HSE confirmed to them that we only have the current capacity to process 33% of 4,500 daily tests'

Scuid Mhór wrote: »

The government signifying a willingness to spent 4 billion euro in order to keep employees from being unemployed/keep companies from going bankrupt is a really cool move, economically speaking. MacWilliams describes it as putting the economy in "hibernation" as opposed to letting it crash and then crash worse overtime as we reach 400,000 unemployed and businesses go broke. This way we get to avoid extremely negative shocks to the demand and supply side. Great movie in the right direction in terms of thinking what the state of the country will look like after the crisis.

It's a great idea. If people are still 'in employment', it gives the economy an excellent chance to begin to bounce back once the restrictions start to be lifted.

cameramonkey wrote: »

They are only testing 2000 daily , they said they would bump it up to 4500. So does this mean they have only current capacity to process 33%of 2000 or 4500?

Of 4,500.

cameramonkey wrote: »

They are only testing 2000 daily , they said they would bump it up to 4500. So does this mean they have only current capacity to process 33%of 2000 or 4500?

Could be another HSE screwup.

So, possibly the extra samples were taken for PR reasons to make it look like the HSE are doing something. But, unless there are more lab staff hired and new equipment purchased then these samples cannot be analyzed. This means that most of the tests will go in the bin rather than being analyzed.

Is this theory correct? Or am I off the mark?

frillyleaf wrote: »

I do understand the lack of trust in the HSE but it’s very different experience being treated in a country where English is first language in my experience. Although most people in Spain speak English I was in a situation a few years ago where I needed to liaise with Spanish people and none of them spoke English. If was quite difficult and only for google translate I would have needed a translator to get the information I needed.

It’s easier to be at home if you have family that can help support you too. I hope anyone who chose to stay gets the support they need. That’s very hard on them

My Dad had a stay in a Spanish hospital last year when he broke his hip. He said the experience was a hundred times better than the one he had here. He had his own room, faster healing time, better follow up care etc. But, like you said, it is easier to be at home. A broken hip is one thing (and routine enough), but a pandemic that could end his life is quite something else and I wish he was here I can't stop thinking about what will happen if they get it and have nobody with them. And it does seem like we have it under control and have fewer numbers in ICU etc. Spain seems like a total mess right now.