CoVid19 Part X - 1,564 cases ROI (9 deaths) 209 in NI (7 deaths) (25 March) Read OP

Ce he sin · 24-03-2020 03:47PM

jamesf85 wrote: »

I'm inclined to agree.

Lets deal with the facts.

And the best source of those facts in the cruise ship.

Patient zero was on board for approx 5 days and was displaying symptoms (coughing) without knowing what it was.

The cruise ship had over 3,700 on board.

19% of the passangers contracted the virus, despite sharing the same pools, sauna, restaurants, onboard entertainment centres, lifts along with buses to and from attractions, as patient zero.

On top of this, the cruise has an air conditioning system which circulates air throughout the ship.

At the rate of infection this virus carries it's fair to say at least 80% of the ship would have been exposed to the virus either through the air or on surfaces (lift buttons, ladles and cutlery in the buffets, hand railings etc.) It is said that the virus lasted on such surfaces on the ship for 17 days.

There were 8 deaths (0.21%) despite the fact that the average age was 62 and everyone was in a very confined space.

This....

That would be 19% of the total on board, not just the passengers. I'd guess that if you factor in the crew the average age of all on board would be less than 62. Bear in mind that a quarantine was imposed in the ship, without which the rate of infection would have been higher. It's too simplistic to treat the ship as a lab to study how the virus spreads.

frillyleaf · 24-03-2020 03:48PM

Antares35 wrote: »

Don't talk to me about it :rolleyes: I tried to get them to come home but they said they felt safer there. They are in a quiet enough place and have their own small house so they can "bunker down". My Dad is at risk (has diabetes and had 2 surgeries last year) and is 73. They didn't want to take the risk on a flight which would have been packed and run the risk of picking it up. I tried to tell them it was a measured risk and that even if they got it, at least they would be treated here as our system is not saturated or full to the brim yet but they wouldn't listen.

Oh dear that’s a pity they wouldn’t come home

wadacrack · 24-03-2020 03:49PM

Bergamo has a population of only 120,000

https://twitter.com/tancredipalmeri/status/1242461575077859330

SlowBlowin · 24-03-2020 03:50PM

Steve F wrote: »

Ah yes forgetting that

Doesn't apply to all tho
I'd say a vast majority could easily set up Teamviewer or Splashtop but are just aren't as clued up:)

I dont think you are reading the replies to your original post.

Keyzer · 24-03-2020 03:50PM

jam83 wrote: »

He cancelled his wedding because all weddings are affected by this. Don't make out he cancelled it to run into a hospital to save lives.

Do you know when he cancelled his wedding? You obviously know him do you?

Knob...

frillyleaf · 24-03-2020 03:51PM

Cork_Langer1 wrote: »

O Leary has said their planes are been made available for all EU countries , repatriation, medical supplies, food deliveries anything that's needed.

Spain is getting rough, apparently nursing homes are been abandoned with patient left there, which the Spanish army are checking all nursing homes now.

From reading here, people are starting to panic, there's no need to panic the HSE and experts in Ireland have been level headed and measured.

What will be, will be.

Relax.

It sounds like there could not be enough PPE to look after the patients safely as opposed to them being completely abandoned by the staff

. Must be extremely difficult for both staff and residents. I would imagine there need to be people fully litter out if people show symptoms. So sad

kowloon · 24-03-2020 03:51PM

weldoninhio wrote: »

Lets hope all of the foreign workers in the Irish health system don't get emotive or we're fcuked.

Were you not one of the people preaching overreaction in one of the previous threads and boasting about going to the pub?

fin12 · 24-03-2020 03:53PM

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8146473/Irish-man-28-caught-coronavirus-London-nearly-died.html

TheDenialTwist · 24-03-2020 03:54PM

Xertz wrote: »

The range doesn't sell Ikea stuff. It's a bit more like Woodies, only less focused on DIY and more on home decor and random 'stuff' - cups, plates, fabric, art and hobby, lighting. They're NOT an essential store by a long shot.

The Range here is indeed part of the UK Chain of stores. Poster was pointing out that The Range bought in freezers in an attempt to deem themselves as "essential". The Range in UK doesn't sell "Ikea type stuff" either.

Dwarf.Shortage · 24-03-2020 03:55PM

wadacrack wrote: »

Bergamo has a population of only 120,000

https://twitter.com/tancredipalmeri/status/1242461575077859330

If that's all true you're talking about 1 in 8 30 year olds in Bergamo are currently in hospital with pneumonia. It seems too bad to be true (I hope).

Cee-Jay-Cee · 24-03-2020 03:55PM

mac.in wrote: »

Trending word in Oxford dictionary is 'Hanta Virus'. May be it's creating a panic at this moment. Apologies if it's brought wrongly into this discussion.

And yet your still blabbing on about it. Its a disease, its has nothing to do with C19 and isn't transmittable through humans. Move on and forget about.

bekker · 24-03-2020 03:56PM

IT reported this morning that HSE confirmed to them that we only have the current capacity to process 33% of 4,500 daily tests. Apparently all the extra hospital base labs that were announced are tied up processing internal testing.

This is extremely serious, as it also reported that some of the tests may be too degraded to process.

We now appear to be in the situation of a 40,000 test backlog, and when 4,500 daily tests achieved a 3,000 daily processing backlog being added to the existing backlog of tests awaiting processing.

Though some of us here have long suspected the development of this scenario, it's still frightening to have it confirmed.

frillyleaf · 24-03-2020 03:56PM

Xertz wrote: »

I know a few people who opted to stay in Spain, basically on the assumption that it would be better handled anywhere except by the HSE, due to the coverage of the Irish health service over the last few years and during the election. I'm not saying it's not deserved, but so far the HSE seems to be doing relatively ok, so far anyway.

I do understand the lack of trust in the HSE but it’s very different experience being treated in a country where English is first language in my experience. Although most people in Spain speak English I was in a situation a few years ago where I needed to liaise with Spanish people and none of them spoke English. If was quite difficult and only for google translate I would have needed a translator to get the information I needed.

It’s easier to be at home if you have family that can help support you too. I hope anyone who chose to stay gets the support they need. That’s very hard on them

mac.in · 24-03-2020 03:56PM

Cee-Jay-Cee wrote: »

And yet your still blabbing on about it. Its a disease, its has nothing to do with C19 and isn't transmittable through humans. Move on and forget about.

Now, don't act too smart. Read my "Apologies".

mac.in wrote: »

Trending word in Oxford dictionary is 'Hanta Virus'. May be it's creating a panic at this moment. Apologies if it's brought wrongly into this discussion.

Valhallapt · 24-03-2020 03:57PM

bekker wrote: »

IT reported this morning that HSE confirmed to them that we only have the current capacity to process 33% of 4,500 daily tests. Apparently all the extra hospital base labs that were announced are tied up processing internal testing.

This is extremely serious, as it also reported that some of the tests may be too degraded to process.

We now appear to be in the situation of a 40,000 test backlog, and when 4,500 daily tests achieved a 3,000 daily processing backlog being added to the existing backlog of tests awaiting processing.

Though some of us here have long suspected the development of this scenario, it's still frightening to have it confirmed.

Can we send them abroad?

Yakult · 24-03-2020 03:58PM

Valhallapt wrote: »

Can we send them abroad?

I hear Madegascan hospitals aren't too occupied so we could send there :pac:

WrenBoy · 24-03-2020 03:58PM

pjohnson wrote: »

Texas. I'm suprise he didnt suggest more people use their guns to fight the virus.

Well, have they tried ??

Bannasidhe · 24-03-2020 03:58PM

brendanwalsh wrote: »

What facility is it ?

I would prefer not to say until the proper authorities announce it. This is a very recent development and families need to be contacted first.

I think enough information has been given here already : a facility caring for elderly people in Cork City has had at least one confirmed case of Cv19. Staff have been told to isolate.

I'm also not going to feed any possibility of panic or whatapp messages saying " I heard from a poster on Boards.ie that her cousin *insert outrageous claim here*

Valhallapt · 24-03-2020 03:59PM

Yakult wrote: »

I hear Madegascan hospitals aren't too occupied so we could send there :pac:

TBF China probably have spare capacity at this stage

accensi0n · 24-03-2020 04:00PM

fin12 wrote: »

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8146473/Irish-man-28-caught-coronavirus-London-nearly-died.html

Is this meant to highlight that even young healthy people can get very sick from it?

Because the article says he has mild asthma and has previously been in hospital for a collapsed lung and pneumonia.

crisco10 · 24-03-2020 04:00PM

frillyleaf wrote: »

I do understand the lack of trust in the HSE but it’s very different experience being treated in a country where English is first language in my experience. Although most people in Spain speak English I was in a situation a few years ago where I needed to liaise with Spanish people and none of them spoke English. If was quite difficult and only for google translate I would have needed a translator to get the information I needed.

It’s easier to be at home if you have family that can help support you too. I hope anyone who chose to stay gets the support they need. That’s very hard on them

yup, had a family member seriously ill in France. Although the health service was great, the language barrier was challenging (and added to the emotional stress of it all). Despite us having decent French, and the staff having ok English, it was really very hard to communicate with the necessary and bespoke vocab that medical treatment requires.

walshb · 24-03-2020 04:02PM

What numbers are we looking at today?

kingshankly · 24-03-2020 04:04PM

walshb wrote: »

What numbers are we looking at today?

0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9 is all the numbers that exist

24-03-2020 04:05PM

jam_mac_jam wrote: »

People are just looking for reasons that we are different.

Nope, its been mentioned in quite a few reports trying to explain the heavy toll in Italy. Of course there are people still living with their parents in Ireland, I never said there wasn't. In Italy though its a basic part of society and culture. Families interact massively there as a consequence.

jam83 · 24-03-2020 04:06PM

Tacitus Kilgore wrote: »

The other poster is berating doctors who are trying to come here to help.

I asked him what's he doing since they're such arseholes coming back to give a hand.

You piped up about them being paid for being doctors - shock feckin' horror!

I asked you wtf are you on about, and you've asked me what I'm doing -

I'm doing fuck all, the exact thing I'm supposed to be doing, working from home and only leaving the house when I need shopping. If I was a doctor, I'd like to think I'd be doctoring. What are you up to? Have anything nice for lunch? xx

Read the posts back again like a good lad and try to understand what's going on
You've completely misunderstood my sarcasm. You saying that doctors are helping is like me saying that a production operator in a ventilation manufacturers is helping, when they're just doing their job, they're not volunteering for free. That was my point. It's simple, yet I had to spell it out for you.

cj maxx · 24-03-2020 04:06PM

frillyleaf wrote: »

I do understand the lack of trust in the HSE but it’s very different experience being treated in a country where English is first language in my experience. Although most people in Spain speak English I was in a situation a few years ago where I needed to liaise with Spanish people and none of them spoke English. If was quite difficult and only for google translate I would have needed a translator to get the information I needed.

It’s easier to be at home if you have family that can help support you too. I hope anyone who chose to stay gets the support they need. That’s very hard on them

True. I was in hospital in France and was looked after by an ( very attractive) intern as she was the only one with enough English to communicate properly with me

wakka12 · 24-03-2020 04:06PM

walshb wrote: »

What numbers are we looking at today?

Seems to be about a 20% increase daily rather than 30% so probably about 260

is_that_so · 24-03-2020 04:06PM

walshb wrote: »

What numbers are we looking at today?

Think 30% a day unless otherwise informed.

cameramonkey · 24-03-2020 04:08PM

bekker wrote: »

IT reported this morning that HSE confirmed to them that we only have the current capacity to process 33% of 4,500 daily tests. Apparently all the extra hospital base labs that were announced are tied up processing internal testing.

This is extremely serious, as it also reported that some of the tests may be too degraded to process.

We now appear to be in the situation of a 40,000 test backlog, and when 4,500 daily tests achieved a 3,000 daily processing backlog being added to the existing backlog of tests awaiting processing.

Though some of us here have long suspected the development of this scenario, it's still frightening to have it confirmed.

They are only testing 2000 daily , they said they would bump it up to 4500. So does this mean they have only current capacity to process 33%of 2000 or 4500?

WrenBoy · 24-03-2020 04:10PM

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

If these doctors are such heroes and care about ireland so much why did they let the tax payer fund their education and then f*ck off to sunnier climes? I think they just want to be lauded in the media tbh.

AAh leave it off jaysus, bigger fish man. I know plenty of nurses who qualify go somewhere like Australia after and work there for a while as well as travel. Want to see some of the world and have the opportunity to make money too. Then most come back to Ireland and do the whole family thing, some don't maybe blame the system that turns so many young professionals off working here.

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CoVid19 Part X - 1,564 cases ROI (9 deaths) 209 in NI (7 deaths) (25 March) Read OP