CoVid19 Part X - 1,564 cases ROI (9 deaths) 209 in NI (7 deaths) (25 March) Read OP

24-03-2020 10:37AM

iwillyeah1234 wrote: »

many are from an NHS Nurse , on her way into a central London hospital.

Absolutely, I get that. 100%. The powers that be will have to step in and close what they deem to be non essential places of work, though. People can't be trusted to do so themselves evidently, not that I'd blame them either as they've to provide for families.

While the imagery is striking, I'd have a lot more time for these people than the buffoons gathering in a recreational sense. These folks are doing it because they feel they have to. They need to led with a tougher approach you'd feel becuase those tubes are congested and stale at the best of times anyway, regardless of a virus.

iwillyeah1234 · 24-03-2020 10:37AM

Harry Palmr wrote: »

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/24/older-people-would-rather-die-than-let-covid-19-lockdown-harm-us-economy-texas-official-dan-patrick

.

I'm sure his sacrifice will be remembered

So the boomer meme is actually real.

cdgalwegian · 24-03-2020 10:38AM

snotboogie wrote: »

Thats what the world did to Germany after WW1, worked out well didn't it?

:rolleyes:

The point is that if this was any other country they would have been forced to change their socio-economic practices after SARS; the behemoth of China is the source of this type of contagion, and its ways needs to be stopped. Otherwise it's going to just keep happening.

cloudatlas · 24-03-2020 10:38AM

murpho999 wrote: »

Yes something like that needs to happen.

It's day 1 so I'm sure they'll bring it in.

To me it shows how badly the UK have handled this whole thing and I will not accept people's calls now for us to follow their lead. We have done an awful lot more than they have.

What are Ireland doing?

MintyMagnum · 24-03-2020 10:39AM

Would ppl have concerns taking up a new non essential job these days, mixing with new people, new surroundings etc?

weldoninhio · 24-03-2020 10:39AM

Get Real wrote: »

Your friend is a key worker, and freight etc is essential.

However, I think in general, it is dangerous for companies to start defining "essential" according to their own interpretation/business interests. (Unless the letter is govt issued)

There may be businesses/employers- similar to the pubs that stayed open- that issue letters and people will be going around with it thinking they have some sort of automatic entitlement "but I have a letter". When in fact the letter has no legal basis whatsoever.

It should be up to the government to have a list, insofar as possible. Otherwise there'll be many grey areas and people will continue as seen on the pictures from the London Tube this morning.

It is not for a business, who's primary objective is to make money, to start applying terms that they have come up with, to themselves.

Again, I'm not saying Stena is doing this, but I'm talking about the wider business world.

No, signed by a Stena "People Manager". It does say that they have "taken advice from www.gov.uk your role as Seafarer qualifies for Key Worker status".

Hamsterchops · 24-03-2020 10:39AM

murpho999 wrote: »

Yes something like that needs to happen.

It's day 1 so I'm sure they'll bring it in.

To me it shows how badly the UK have handled this whole thing and I will not accept people's calls now for us to follow their lead. We have done an awful lot more than they have.

The Republic & the UK need to be aligned.

24-03-2020 10:40AM

cloudatlas wrote: »

Any pics of Dublin?

No but here's a video of us a mere three days after the pubs closed. And then some fella cracked out his stash.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jh0uC0S-qB4

smelly sock · 24-03-2020 10:41AM

I find a bit of arrogance from the young Irish doctors and nurses working in Australia wanting to come home to "Help".

They actually asked for a chartered flight just for them.

Bob24 · 24-03-2020 10:42AM

wakka12 wrote: »

I wouldn't call Singapore 'unaffected' seeing as its society completely changed in order to prevent a mass outbreak

The poster said “least affected”. I think it is a fair point as while they indeed had to make strong adjustments, the impact of these adjustments is nowhere near what we are now getting in Europe (for exemple no lockdown in Singapore and the economy isn’t stopped/stopping).

IMO, ignoring the initial WHO advice saying that giving masks to the public and travel restrictions were not useful was key to their success.

I am not calling the WHO incompetent and I am sure it is full of very good people. But at the end of the day it is a very political organisation and what it says is both driven by medical expertise and geopolitics. For exemple it was very late to call it a pandemic in order to save face for China, it is reluctant to recommend travel restrictions due to political correctness, and it doesn’t want to recommend widespread use of masks for the general public as it knows many country just don’t have the stocks and it is afraid of causing panic/uproar in their populations.

SlowBlowin · 24-03-2020 10:42AM

Wibbs wrote: »

In some ways getting more virulent and deadly is a negative for a virus. It needs a host and the more it kills the worse things go for it. The "ideal" virus would be highly infectious but cause few or no symptoms, so it would spread to every host it could.

Yes, I was amazed recently to learn that 8% of human dna is the result of viral insertion. Its an amazing process, almost a human blockchain, and we really are in the infancy of understanding it.

sheepsh4gger · 24-03-2020 10:43AM

Fire Holohan, he's dodging questions. I want to know which streets to avoid in Dublin.
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/coronavirus-ban-on-all-non-essential-travel-commercial-social-activity-mooted-1.4210346

cloudatlas · 24-03-2020 10:44AM

Omackeral wrote: »

No but here's a video of us a mere three days after the pubs closed. And then some fella cracked out his stash

Yea this site should be called boards.co.uk due to the constant feed of uk news that I can easily find on the guardian site.

This is it · 24-03-2020 10:45AM

sheepsh4gger wrote: »

Fire Holohan, he's dodging questions. I want to know which streets to avoid in Dublin.
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/coronavirus-ban-on-all-non-essential-travel-commercial-social-activity-mooted-1.4210346

One can only laugh

24-03-2020 10:45AM

cloudatlas wrote: »

Yea this site should be called boards.co.uk due to the constant feed of uk news that I can easily find on the guardian site.

Pro tip, don't visit the soccer forum.

Tacitus Kilgore · 24-03-2020 10:46AM

smelly sock wrote: »

I find a bit of arrogance from the young Irish doctors and nurses working in Australia wanting to come home to "Help".

They actually asked for a chartered flight just for them.

There's feck all flights leaving oz, let alone any with seats left. can't blame them

cloudatlas · 24-03-2020 10:46AM

Omackeral wrote: »

Pro tip, don't visit the soccer forum.

I hear it’s been called off, may be wrong though.

lawred2 · 24-03-2020 10:46AM

smelly sock wrote: »

I find a bit of arrogance from the young Irish doctors and nurses working in Australia wanting to come home to "Help".

They actually asked for a chartered flight just for them.

they'd be totes heroes roysh

Jurgen Klopp · 24-03-2020 10:47AM

smelly sock wrote: »

I find a bit of arrogance from the young Irish doctors and nurses working in Australia wanting to come home to "Help".

They actually asked for a chartered flight just for them.

Am I the only that while appreciating them wanting to come home also think they should stay and help the people there?

I am trying to think if a large cohort from say the Philippines went home to help and left us short, but then would most likely expect to just return here after

Have to say I'd understand the going home but would be a tad bitter if they just expected to waltz back after things settled

gabeeg · 24-03-2020 10:48AM

cdgalwegian wrote: »

:rolleyes:

The point is that if this was any other country they would have been forced to change their socio-economic practices after SARS; the behemoth of China is the source of this type of contagion, and its ways needs to be stopped. Otherwise it's going to just keep happening.

Are you aware that swine flu came from US farms?
The next killer avian flu is likely to come from poultry.

Do you want to end farming practises in the west too?

Rob A. Bank · 24-03-2020 10:49AM

murpho999 wrote: »

So you'be seen an Asian worker in an asian airport on the news with a thermometer gun and that means we should do that?

Do you know how many people they stopped and found with the virus?

Majority of carriers are asymptomatic and will not have a temperature.

People coming from risky areas have been told to self -isolate.
How do you propose to force people? Camps at the airport?
I doubt there are many UK citizens traveling here now.

There's nobody on these flights anyway and it's not a major issue now and people should just calm down about it.

And the minority ?

They are the 'Typhoid Marys' undoing all the good work we have done so far, openly spreading the virus far and wide.

This idea that a biological test, like temperature testing, must detect all or even most cases, is pure nonsense...

If it stops even one spreader it is very much worth while.

The Asians in some countries have successfully contained the virus, Europe has failed miserably.

It's not rocket science that we should try to emulate what they are doing.

cdgalwegian · 24-03-2020 10:50AM

gabeeg wrote: »

Are you aware that swine flu came from US farms?
The next killer avian flu is likely to come from poultry.

Do you want to end farming practises in the west too?

Actually, I meant to include America; too big to bully into using correct food hygiene. If it's gonna be done, it should be done right. It's a global concern, so ya, best practice please.

Eric Cartman · 24-03-2020 10:50AM

smelly sock wrote: »

I find a bit of arrogance from the young Irish doctors and nurses working in Australia wanting to come home to "Help".

They actually asked for a chartered flight just for them.

All in first class presumably , thered be big group selfies of them all #savethenation , theyd do it for 3 months then go right back to aus, spend the entire time hugging their relatives and on instagram about saving lives while telling everyone who stayed in ireland “ohh you simply have to come to aus mate, its totes sunny”

It would literally be the most ego masturbatory jaunt for the blackrock college set that the taxpayers money could buy.

Martina1991 · 24-03-2020 10:51AM

Strawberry Milkshake wrote:

Martina, just want to clarify though. When Dr Holohan says â€œtestedâ€, he means those that have been swabbed and those swabs analysed?

Yes i believe so. Swabs taken, analysis complete, results reported.

I haven't seen any number for the amount of swabs taken per day by the test centres/ NAS.

murpho999 · 24-03-2020 10:51AM

Rob A. Bank wrote: »

So the figures today are a reflection of what we DID NOT do 10-14 days ago ?

You have to be proactive with this virus... reacting to today's case figures means you are already 10- 14 days behind the curve.

Listen to Dr Michael Ryan who is used to tackling epidemics caused by nasty viruses !

Yes, the numbers we have are not live and never will be.

Also 10-14 days ago we shut down schools etc ahead of many countries so I don't get the constant sniping and saying we did nothing.

We're at the beginning of this, the numbers are going to go up, and people need to realise this.

Hopefully what has happened since we took measures will have a positive impact with numbers in the next 2 weeks.

People will never believe it did as numbers will most likely increase as forcasted by the government but will still be deemed a failure.

sheepsh4gger · 24-03-2020 10:52AM

This is it wrote: »

One can only laugh

silverharp · 24-03-2020 10:53AM

Seems like London needs to close its Tube down , it makes a mockery of the shutdown or let it run but you need an NHS or emergency service pass

kingshankly · 24-03-2020 10:55AM

silverharp wrote: »

Seems like London needs to close its Tube down , it makes a mockery of the shutdown or let it run but you need an NHS or emergency service pass

No it needs to go back to full service it closed dozens of stations which has now created loads of pinch points if they operated full service they would be no issue as only 20% travelling

niallo27 · 24-03-2020 10:56AM

Jurgen Klopp wrote: »

Am I the only that while appreciating them wanting to come home also think they should stay and help the people there?

I am trying to think if a large cohort from say the Philippines went home to help and left us short, but then would most likely expect to just return here after

Have to say I'd understand the going home but would be a tad bitter if they just expected to waltz back after things settled

Ya totally agree, I dont think they should abandon the people that supported them and trained them. They choose to work there so they should support that.

Cody montana · 24-03-2020 10:56AM

silverharp wrote: »

Seems like London needs to close its Tube down , it makes a mockery of the shutdown or let it run but you need an NHS or emergency service pass

I don’t know how they expected social distancing while the tube was still running.
Same with the buses, they’re usually packed.

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CoVid19 Part X - 1,564 cases ROI (9 deaths) 209 in NI (7 deaths) (25 March) Read OP