CoVid19 Part X - 1,564 cases ROI (9 deaths) 209 in NI (7 deaths) (25 March) Read OP

TheAsYLuMkeY · 24-03-2020 09:43AM

mean gene wrote: »

There be some companies do well out of this pharma companies for one

Pharma
Food
Alcohol
PPE
Netflix etc

stephenjmcd · 24-03-2020 09:43AM

mean gene wrote: »

Again it has to be stated flights full of potential virus carriers arriving in every few minutes in Dublin and not been checked. Wtf is the point of all these measures. Also ferry's coming in daily

And again these flights aren't full, most flights are arriving with a handful of people on them.

The airport is a ghost town and operations are scaled back to an absolute minimum

SlowBlowin · 24-03-2020 09:43AM

Esel wrote: »

Where is the 'interest maths' in your post?

interesting

walshb · 24-03-2020 09:44AM

Are we expecting more test results today than yesterday, as in more tests to give results from?

Akrasia · 24-03-2020 09:45AM

SlowBlowin wrote: »

Its NOT advice, just interest maths.

Wild speculation on an unsupported presumption that there will be a 2nd wave next year that is 10 times more deadly than this one. It’s fear mongering pseudoscience
Every virus mutates randomly at different rates, there is absolutely no reason to believe that this virus will mutate to become more deadly or that this deadly strain would be spread globally the same way the current strains have given that we’re already at a very heightened alert

iwillyeah1234 · 24-03-2020 09:45AM

Tweet from a nurse in London this morning, on her way into a London hospital

https://twitter.com/nsmith694/status/1242343836262846470

Yurt2 · 24-03-2020 09:46AM

amadangomor wrote: »

You are making up a position for me

I was talking about Trump blaming China, never mentioned any of the other stuff that you have imagined as being my position :rolleyes:

Sometimes even Trump is right, China are by far the actor most to blame for this global predicament. Ignored the scummy exotic animal trade in wet markets in tens of thousands of locations with full knowledge of that these were the conditions that created SARS, and then expended the critical early weeks trying to cover it up.

Even have the balls to mount a propaganda offensive suggesting the US military developed it. This is not the behaviour of a trustworthy state.

They're on a charm offensive at the moment, but they'd be doing well to escape with it being labeled 'the China virus.'

Every nation affected should send a bill to Beijing at the end of this mess.

patnor1011 · 24-03-2020 09:47AM

Akrasia wrote: »

If people listened to your hair brained advice, which is a thinly veiled call for people to deliberately catch the ‘milder’ form of the virus now, there would be a massive spike in infections and many many more people would die

Your uninformed hypothetical speculation is the kind of nonsense that gets people killed

What advice exactly? He is doing exactly what you do and pretty much everyone here.
Speculating on what may happen or how to deal with situation.
Calm down and realize that we deal with something that is completely new and facts are changing every day.

TheAsYLuMkeY · 24-03-2020 09:49AM

Yurt! wrote: »

Sometimes even Trump is right, China are by far the actor most to blame for this global predicament. Ignored the scummy exotic animal trade in wet markets in tens of thousands of locations with full knowledge of that these were the conditions that created SARS, and then expended the critical early weeks trying to cover it up.

Even have the balls to mount a propaganda offensive suggesting the US military developed it. This is not the behaviour of a trustworthy state.

They're on a charm offensive at the moment, but they'd be doing well to escape with it being labeled 'the China virus.'

Every nation affected should send a bill to Beijing at the end of this mess.

And should we send a bill to england for running cheltenham?

iwillyeah1234 · 24-03-2020 09:49AM

Tweet from a London tube driver this morning

https://twitter.com/richard_gray1/status/1242358313783828480

24-03-2020 09:50AM

Pacing Mule wrote: »

Serious question and forgive me if it comes across as scare mongering.

But we are looking at the UK and saying they're fecked / got it wrong / put themselves into lockdown.

They have had 6650 cases
We have had 1,125

Their population 66.44 million
Our population 4.83 million

They've had a case for every 9990 people
We've had one for every 4293

But they're much worse off than us?

How?

Death Rate /confirmed cases - UK 5%, Ireland 0.5%
Either HSE is way better than NHS or they are not testing.

BluePlanet · 24-03-2020 09:50AM

If anybody is interested, here is an article that discusses rapid covid-19 tests.
There are quite a number of them out there.

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41587-020-00010-2

SDKev · 24-03-2020 09:52AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Death Rate /confirmed cases - UK 5%, Ireland 0.5%
Either HSE is way better than NHS or they are not testing.

NHS only test if you’re Admitted to hospital

iwillyeah1234 · 24-03-2020 09:52AM

Jubilee line , London, this morning

SlowBlowin · 24-03-2020 09:52AM

Akrasia wrote: »

Wild speculation on an unsupported presumption that there will be a 2nd wave next year that is 10 times more deadly than this one. It’s fear mongering pseudoscience
Every virus mutates randomly at different rates, there is absolutely no reason to believe that this virus will mutate to become more deadly or that this deadly strain would be spread globally the same way the current strains have given that we’re already at a very heightened alert

I dont know how many warnings you need to put round a post to say, not fact, dont follow. Its just interesting, thats what happened with H1N1.

Do you dispute what I said happened with H1N1 ?

Do you dispute a vaccine by best estimates is 12 months away ?

No one knows if CV19 will follow the same path, my post just pointed out that if it did, ironically .... etc..

I am in lock down, I am not trying to catch it, I didnt say it would become more deadly...

Kerrydude1981 · 24-03-2020 09:52AM

It showed a building site in London on Sky News earlier, they flew a drone over the site

All the workers were standing around in groups chatting, it could be seen clearly that they definitely weren't the 2m distance apart from each other

walshb · 24-03-2020 09:54AM

Claire Byrne feels guilty that she may have passed the virus on....

She had symptoms of what she assumed was a head cold....:rolleyes:

So, she obviously went about her business, and only when symptoms worsened did she get tested....

This virus shows no discrimination. Educated, ignorant, or whatever......

Wibbs · 24-03-2020 09:54AM

TheAsYLuMkeY wrote: »

And should we send a bill to england for running cheltenham?

Retarded comparison. Wet markets in East Asia(not just in China) are biggest potential pandemic factorieson the planet. Organised crime, both usual and at local governmental levels control them. China has more of them that anyone else and there are some reports that they've started up again. China and any other nation that keeps this practice going needs to be held to account and hit in the pocket hard. If any blame is to be laid for this pandemic and the potentially millions of lives lost it's at the feet of the Chinese government.

amadangomor · 24-03-2020 09:54AM

Yurt! wrote: »

Sometimes even Trump is right, China are by far the actor most to blame for this global predicament. Ignored the scummy exotic animal trade in wet markets in tens of thousands of locations with full knowledge of that these were the conditions that created SARS, and then expended the critical early weeks trying to cover it up.

Even have the balls to mount a propaganda offensive suggesting the US military developed it. This is not the behaviour of a trustworthy state.

They're on a charm offensive at the moment, but they'd be doing well to escape with it being labeled 'the China virus.'

Every nation affected should send a bill to Beijing at the end of this mess.

Even if he is right it does not take away from the fact he fkd up royaly over his reaction to the crisis.

Blaming China even if they are at fault will not change the fact that his inaction will cause tens of thousand of Americans to die and the economy left in shreds.

iwillyeah1234 · 24-03-2020 09:54AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Death Rate /confirmed cases - UK 5%, Ireland 0.5%
Either HSE is way better than NHS or they are not testing.

The NHS are only testing hospitalised cases. The UK is very much in the dark as to the true extent of infections.

stephenjmcd · 24-03-2020 09:55AM

iwillyeah1234 wrote: »

Jubilee line , London, this morning

Wow, what absolute morons

madalig12 · 24-03-2020 09:56AM

Factory in Derry of about 1400 employees told last night they were an essential service and had to continue working...they make hard disc drives

amadangomor · 24-03-2020 09:57AM

walshb wrote: »

Claire Byrne feels guilty that she may have passed the virus on....

She had symptoms of what she assumed was a head cold....:rolleyes:

So, she obviously went about her business, and only when symptoms worsened did she get tested....

This virus shows no discrimination. Educated, ignorant, or whatever......

Not getting your point? Are you saying she's at fault here?

is_that_so · 24-03-2020 09:57AM

madalig12 wrote: »

Factory in Derry of about 1400 employees told last night they were an essential service and had to continue working...they make hard disc drives

Why is that not essential? IT infrastructure must be maintained and even expanded.

Mav11 · 24-03-2020 09:58AM

Our first case was the end of February. Does anybody know why we are showing so few (5) recovered? It seems that proportionally, other countries are showing more. Is it the recovery criteria that Ireland uses?

24-03-2020 09:58AM

SlowBlowin wrote: »

Please dont take this as fact, just my logic based on the facts we know.

There is little recorded, detailed, scientific history on similar epidemics other that SARs etc. But we do know H1N1 Spanish flu (thought to originate from the UK/US) was far more deadly in the second phase once it had mutated. The first stage (pre-mutation) killed the old and infirm, but the second wave was indiscriminate young and fit alike, 10 times more deadly than the first.

The second wave arrived within 12 months of the first, and the only people who had immunity to the second wave were those who caught the first infection.

IF CV19 followed the same path, and IF a vaccine is 12-18 months away then, strange as it may seem, mathematically your best chance of long term survival is to catch this strain now, and get immunity.

That said we still dont know if immunity is a thing, as there has been talk of reinfection, or possibly is the reinfection a mutation ?

EDIT: This is NOT advice - its just maths, I am in lockdown and I follow gov advice.

Anyway NO ONE KNOWS, yet......

Your right no one knows yet and Influenza virus is very different to a Coronavirus. Maybe natural selection in Covid19 as it mutates will select for less severe symptoms as this plays out. We are isolating severe and confirmed cases while mild strains live on undetected. No one knows really

niallo27 · 24-03-2020 09:58AM

madalig12 wrote: »

Factory in Derry of about 1400 employees told last night they were an essential service and had to continue working...they make hard disc drives

People need jobs, why is this so hard to understand. If your still working, stay the **** away from vulnerable people or just go to work and back.

The HorsesMouth · 24-03-2020 09:59AM

Hamsterchops wrote: »

Well done with your calculations, it does indeed make you wonder why so many people 'posting here' criticise Boris & the UK so harshly in their approach to this unprecedented crisis.

But it's not the cases that are the most important. There could be 1 million people with it...we don't know. What we do know is icu cases and deaths and they are the fundamental numbers. And forgive me if my numbers are a bit off but:
UK 336 of 66.4mill = 0.0005%
Ire 6 of 4.8mill = 0.0001%

patnor1011 · 24-03-2020 10:00AM

Akrasia wrote: »

Wild speculation on an unsupported presumption that there will be a 2nd wave next year that is 10 times more deadly than this one. It’s fear mongering pseudoscience
Every virus mutates randomly at different rates, there is absolutely no reason to believe that this virus will mutate to become more deadly or that this deadly strain would be spread globally the same way the current strains have given that we’re already at a very heightened alert

You are contradicting yourself here.
If every virus mutates randomly at different rates there is a reason to believe that this virus subsequent mutation will go any way possible or imaginable.

24-03-2020 10:00AM

iwillyeah1234 wrote: »

The NHS are only testing hospitalised cases. The UK is very much in the dark as to the true extent of infections.

That was my point

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CoVid19 Part X - 1,564 cases ROI (9 deaths) 209 in NI (7 deaths) (25 March) Read OP