CoVid19 Part X - 1,564 cases ROI (9 deaths) 209 in NI (7 deaths) (25 March) Read OP

niallo27 · 23-03-2020 11:35PM

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

That's not how evolution or mutation works. If it mutates to be less fatal then so be it but it's interest doesn't come in to it . It's not a sentient organism and can't decide to become less lethal to it's host.

Well I don't believe that to be correct, a lot of previous viruses have mutated to be more contagious and less deadly. The more deadly strains will die with their hosts and the less deadly ones will spread easier.

kravmaga · 23-03-2020 11:35PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Father works in a management position at the CUH. Prefabs are being installed right now to cater for more ICU beds. Old buildings are currently being renovated to raise capacity. ICU bed numbers are going to increase significantly.

27 cases in ICU now, so they will need more ICU beds for sure

hawkwing · 23-03-2020 11:35PM

40% of the closed cases in Spain died and 45% in Italy it seems

Ficheall · 23-03-2020 11:36PM

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

That's not how evolution or mutation works. If it mutates to be less fatal then so be it but it's interest doesn't come in to it . It's not a sentient organism and can't decide to become less lethal to it's host.

Its "interest" does come into it. Maybe not as a conscious choice, but a less fatal mutation of the virus (akin to the flu) is more likely to persist than a strain which is quickly lethal (akin to ebola) because the host will survive to spread it, and thus that is the strain which will persist. That is pretty much exactly how evolution works.

MD1990 · 23-03-2020 11:36PM

Spain now 539 dead.

There probably not at there peak yet very sadly.

Surely some people realise you cant let this virus run it course.
It could kill so many people

23-03-2020 11:36PM

CNN- live broadcast- Trump along with medical advisors and military advisors - standing literally/ shoulder to shoulder - fcing idiots the lot of them - go Irish politicians for showing how it should be done !

Bloody idiot American politicians

SleetAndSnow · 23-03-2020 11:36PM

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/coronavirus-government-set-to-announce-new-travel-work-restrictions-1.4210176

Look to be following the UK. New restirctions on travel etc expected to be announced tomorrow.

Stheno · 23-03-2020 11:36PM

normanoffside wrote: »

People just won’t get the community testing thing. Everyone is going to get infected the more people we know are infected the better.
To simplify:

High number of positives = good- sign of good testing
High number of deaths = bad- sign of poor testing and bad planning.

The ideal is to have a high infection rate and a low death rate.

Agreed

I'd a bad sinus infection a couple of weeks ago which had me in bed for five days

Doctor said I didn't have Covid but I wonder if it exasperated the dose I had

If they get an antibody test I'd take it for sure

BLIZZARD7 · 23-03-2020 11:36PM

IT reporting we are going to follow the UK tighter restrictions tomorrow

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/coronavirus-government-set-to-announce-new-travel-work-restrictions-1.4210176

hotmail.com · 23-03-2020 11:36PM

Increased restrictions here are now inevitable. How It will be enforced given that our police force isn't armed is another question .

Ironically a few days of bad weather will sort out a lot of this.

UrbanFret · 23-03-2020 11:37PM

fullstop wrote: »

You’re goosed. Just pull the car over and live in it for a few weeks.

Home safe and sound . Did meet one police car heading back towards Enniskillen. A lot of people on this side work in Teemore/Derrylin, apparently that will be still be allowed. Not exactly total lockdown.;)

Hamsterchops · 23-03-2020 11:37PM

one world order wrote: »

Malaria drug is showing good promise so far

Yes it is, and I gather there are other drugs too that can help Covid patients, but a vaccine is the Holy Grail.....

This year?

laurah591 · 23-03-2020 11:38PM

darced wrote: »

Im waiting 5 days for results, I would love to know where the many people like me fit into the statistics?

5 days for results I'd take as a positive ... they test your swab twice if first is negative which is why it takes longer.

JP Liz V1 · 23-03-2020 11:39PM

Italy death toll rises by 602 to 6,078, almost 10%

Ficheall · 23-03-2020 11:40PM

normanoffside wrote: »

The ideal is to have a high infection rate and a low death rate.

A low death rate is ideal, yes.

But how the hell can you possibly argue that a high infection rate is better than a low one??

Jim_Hodge · 23-03-2020 11:40PM

niallo27 wrote: »

Well I don't believe that to be correct, a lot of previous viruses have mutated to be more contagious and less deadly. The more deadly strains will die with their hosts and the less deadly ones will spread easier.

Yes, but not by deliberate design to meet their own interest. Likewise viruses have mutated to the point of extinction. Some mutations benefit an organism and others are to its detriment. It can't predestine such mutations. That's the point. It may go one way or another but not by it's own design.

Mervyn Skidmore · 23-03-2020 11:41PM

How come Claire Byrne's set up was much more professional last week?

gmisk · 23-03-2020 11:41PM

Is Claire Byrne isolating herself in a sauna?!

But more importantly how upset is Kathryn Thomas about firing a tonne of people...

one world order · 23-03-2020 11:41PM

WhiteMemento9 wrote: »

He is a ****ing moron touting this to the public. You now have people putting even extra pressure on the health care system along with killling themselves.

https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/489097-man-dies-after-taking-malaria-medication-in-effort-to-prevent-coronavirus

It helps kill the virus then it should be used. Other leaders would wait months before a drug is tested over and over before mass produced. New York at least agrees with Trump so we shall see.

stephenjmcd · 23-03-2020 11:41PM

BLIZZARD7 wrote: »

IT reporting we are going to follow the UK tighter restrictions tomorrow

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/coronavirus-government-set-to-announce-new-travel-work-restrictions-1.4210176

I'd be surprised if we copied them. Gov basically said today there wouldn't be a full lockdown.

They'll probably tighten up on public spaces etc

froog · 23-03-2020 11:42PM

hotmail.com wrote: »

Increased restrictions here are now inevitable. How It will be enforced given that our police force isn't armed is another question .

Ironically a few days of bad weather will sort out a lot of this.

this is ireland. realistically the only people who will break the rules are groups of teenagers who the guards are well able to deal with. no one needs guns ffs.

spookwoman · 23-03-2020 11:42PM

..... We are doomed

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1242158801211600896?s=20

tobefrank321 · 23-03-2020 11:42PM

Martina1991 wrote: »

Out of all the stats flying around i find these ones the most pointless.

What does the amount of cases per million matter.

It means prevalence is high and growing. It makes contact tracing is more difficult. It means there's likely more unknown cases. It means a lot of things mostly negative. If it continues to grow here we have absolutely no choice but to go into a strict Italian type lockdown, mainly in urban areas. That will cause a lot of people to whinge but tough sh*t.

kingshankly · 23-03-2020 11:44PM

Mervyn Skidmore wrote: »

You get 33% of it.

😂😂like getting a wee bit pregnant

hotmail.com · 23-03-2020 11:44PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

I'd be surprised if we copied them. Gov basically said today there wouldn't be a full lockdown.

They'll probably tighten up on public spaces etc

Britain hasn't introduced a full lockdown, despite the initial reports.

Restrictions on movement have been increased.

Martina1991 · 23-03-2020 11:44PM

cameramonkey wrote:

So it seems a lot less than 4500 just 2000 a day, tests have two aspects the test and then the lab analysis, you can test all you like but if you dont have labs to process the tests they you get backlogs. results seem to be taking a lot longer than they should be.

Just?

The 4,500 figure was the daily aim starting this week.

The 4,500 refers to the laboratory throughput.

I haven't seen any figues as to how many swabs are taken a day.

Atlantic Dawn · 23-03-2020 11:44PM

Lower than the lowest...

Thieves have stolen oxygen from a community hospital in Manchester, police said.

Greater Manchester Police said people would "quite rightly share our disgust" at the theft during the coronavirus pandemic.

Three men were seen getting out of a black BMW outside Withington Community Hospital on Saturday at 03:30 GMT.

They cut a lock on a metal unit before stealing eight oxygen and nitrous oxide canisters.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-manchester-52011664

hotmail.com · 23-03-2020 11:44PM

froog wrote: »

this is ireland. realistically the only people who will break the rules are groups of teenagers who the guards are well able to deal with. no one needs guns ffs.

Have you forgotten about Lidl during the snow?

sheepsh4gger · 23-03-2020 11:44PM

People are sharing this:
https://mobile.twitter.com/zaferer19331944/status/1242190590835593222

It's a dodgy account but there are anti-social people everywhere.

Funsterdelux · 23-03-2020 11:45PM

Claire Byrne Super Spreader

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