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CoVid19 Part X - 1,564 cases ROI (9 deaths) 209 in NI (7 deaths) (25 March) *Read OP*

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  • #3692
    shesty
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,916 Mod ✭✭✭✭shesty


    caviardreams wrote: »
    Some people who are calling for a full lockdown here - the thoughts of 3-6 weeks indoors with no walks outside etc would be unbearable for many who rely on fresh air and outdoors for mental health and other reasons - this is going to be such a long journey - as Holohan pointed out on the graph we are literally only at the start.

    I completely agree re closing non-essential services and public attractions etc. but I do think we should try and keep a balance - this could be months and months. A lockdown is not going to solve this or fix it or make it disappear in a few weeks - the strategy is to slow things down but we will still get infections increasing, it's unavoidable. In fact the more we slow them down to help the health service (and the more successful we are) the longer is will last however, so surely keeping some quality of a life (i.e a socially-distanced walk outside on a sunny day!) over the next few months is important for everyone?

    Some people prefer the knee-jerk reaction. People around me are trying harder and harder at distancing, even just in the last few days, it's really noticeable. Businesses have found ways to make it work for them (some of them, the rest have closed).
    I've said this before - it's a marathon, not a sprint. The Government are striking a balance between keeping control on it and not pushing people past the point they can stand. We are not China. They are an outlier in terms of how controlling of people's lives their Government is. If it happens, I would foresee total lockdown here to be for a short enough period only, and only if numbers start escalating out of control completely. For now, they are doing enough.


  • #3693
    jimmycrackcorm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,414 ✭✭✭✭jimmycrackcorm


    Ralphyroo wrote: »
    The border should be closed donegal doesn't have the healthcare capacity to cope with these people treating it like a holiday

    Donegal people have been looking for a wall to be built for many years, the north and south, to keep them out. By God they should build it tall.


  • #3694
    cameramonkey
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,220 ✭✭✭cameramonkey


    rodDaly69 wrote: »
    People don't seem to realise that 'how many' per day is not the figure to compare ourselves to other countries on. It is the per capita figure that is of true value.

    I saw the socialist party screaming that South Korea were testing 10k a day and we need to be doing the same. And while I agree that would be fantastic, and we should aim for that, we should test as many as is possible, that is not a fair comparison. To reach South Korean levels of test coverage, we would actually need to test a little under 1k a day. A figure I believe we are already achieving.


    I think the HSE should just say how many results have been processed and how many tests have taken place. It gives a good indication of where we are. Instead they say we are working towards 4500 a day when they are nowhere near that for tests , and we have no idea how many are being processed that we are getting results for. With the delays that many are claiming we might only be processing a few hundred a day but I have no idea.


  • #3695
    babybuilder
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,111 ✭✭✭babybuilder


    shesty wrote: »
    Some people prefer the knee-jerk reaction. People around me are trying harder and harder at distancing, even just in the last few days, it's really noticeable. Businesses have found ways to make it work for them (some of them, the rest have closed).
    I've said this before - it's a marathon, not a sprint. The Government are striking a balance between keeping control on it and not pushing people past the point they can stand. We are not China. They are an outlier in terms of how controlling of people's lives their Government is. If it happens, I would foresee total lockdown here to be for a short enough period only, and only if numbers start escalating out of control completely. For now, they are doing enough.

    You and Leo would make a good team:
    "But Mr Varadkar also said that people should not be berated for going to places that were crowded at the weekend.

    He said they probably did not realise until they turned up there and said that he believed most people were observing social distancing"


  • #3696
    Mwengwe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 454 ✭✭Mwengwe


    Gynoid wrote: »
    A while ago there was some expert (on Ebola, I think) who said speed is more important than being right in an epidemic, and it will always seem like too much of a reaction in the beginning and too little in the end. Something like that. Anyone know who this was? Perhaps I am not remembering correctly. But I thought at the time this person is correct. People in charge do not want to look like nervous ninnies...but they should not care about that.

    Michael Ryan


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  • #3697
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,136 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    Doctors room ghost wrote: »
    What kind of an idiot cues for a McDonald’s.
    A high percentage of gombeens Around these days it would seem

    So what if they did. They were in their cars, social distancing was adhered to. Amount of miserable ****ers on here is unreal.


  • #3698
    expectationlost
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,473 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    Mwengwe wrote: »
    (Would) make a massive difference. Without knowing about antibodies, you could test negative for the virus and then catch it on your way home. It doesn't really get rid of the fear of catching it or spreading it, it just tells you that at this particular point in time you're not infected with it.
    you should still be careful as to not spread it from person/object to your hand to object/person


  • #3699
    Westernyelp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,410 ✭✭✭Westernyelp


    Gynoid wrote: »
    A while ago there was some expert (on Ebola, I think) who said speed is more important than being right in an epidemic, and it will always seem like too much of a reaction in the beginning and too little in the end. Something like that. Anyone know who this was? Perhaps I am not remembering correctly. But I thought at the time this person is correct. People in charge do not want to look like nervous ninnies...but they should not care about that.

    Dr, Michael Ryan I think


  • #3700
    Doctors room ghost
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,839 ✭✭✭Doctors room ghost


    jimmycrackcorm wrote: »
    Donegal people have been looking for a wall to be built for many years, the north and south, to keep them out. By God they should build it tall.




    They’re after casinos and chicken ranches aswell be god


  • #3701
    Gods Gift
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,713 ✭✭✭Gods Gift


    ricero wrote: »
    Would deliveries of the likes of chinese, indian and pizza places remain open in a lockdown ?

    Human trafficking?


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  • #3702
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    ricero wrote: »
    Would deliveries of the likes of chinese, indian and pizza places remain open in a lockdown ?
    Check with them?


  • #3703
    sheepsh4gger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 622 ✭✭✭sheepsh4gger


    Doctors room ghost wrote: »
    What kind of an idiot cues for a McDonald’s.
    A high percentage of gombeens Around these days it would seem
    >gombeens
    I like this word


  • #3704
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    jimmycrackcorm wrote: »
    Donegal people have been looking for a wall to be built for many years, the north and south, to keep them out. By God they should build it tall.

    Must Hit Trump up for a sub


  • #3705
    growleaves
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,978 ✭✭✭growleaves


    Would deliveries of the likes of chinese, indian and pizza places remain open in a lockdown ?

    No of course not.Lol


  • #3706
    Acosta
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,689 ✭✭✭Acosta


    mean gene wrote: »
    Sorry Boris your incompetence last week has killed thousands over too late you idiot

    When this is over there'll be an inquiry. Many will want him thrown into prison. Some will want himself and Cummings put up against a wall and shot.


  • #3707
    kwestfan08
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,523 ✭✭✭kwestfan08


    BluePlanet wrote: »
    Borris's "Lockdown".
    It's too lax.
    Same in Ireland i'm afraid.

    What is needed is firm, robust lockdown on all non-essential shops and activities.
    Need numbers of visible police and army on the street to set the tone.

    But you can only lockdown for three weeks or so before people start to go stir crazy and just disobey it. There are 25 in ICU beds at the minute with Covid 19, that's a manageable number. As that number starts to rise, yes you tighten restrictions but not when it isn't nessesery yet.


  • #3708
    Doctors room ghost
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,839 ✭✭✭Doctors room ghost


    niallo27 wrote: »
    So what if they did. They were in their cars, social distancing was adhered to. Amount of miserable ****ers on here is unreal.





    Sheep queuing up for a bag of sh1te.baaaaaa


  • #3709
    nacho libre
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,604 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    Doctors room ghost wrote: »
    What kind of an idiot cues for a McDonald’s.
    A high percentage of gombeens Around these days it would seem

    During storm emma we had a craving for bread, with this corona virus one of the main symptoms is people developing a craving for a big mac.


  • #3710
    Sir Oxman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭Sir Oxman


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    We all can't work from the safety and comfort of our own homes. Lock the country down for the sake of the rest of us. We don't want to contract the virus
    two friends of mine are taking that decision themselves tomorrow.
    One has forced his manager to allow him WFH as he can do so no problem, the other works in a retail chain and is petrified as they are doing virtually nothing to keep the staff safe.


    Mary Lou is correct - if a workplace cannot guarantee as much as they can the safety of their employees in the wrokplace, they should arrange WFH or close.


  • #3711
    dougm1970
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,147 ✭✭✭dougm1970


    my missus works in an old peoples home, and while no visitors are allowed in, the staff do not wear masks...seemingly no need as the virus isnt in the hospital and they have been told it would only panic the patients.
    its confused me a bit...if the virus got in, to my understanding it would be in at least a couple of days before symptoms showed....and is potentially panicing a patient worse than potentially passing on the virus if you had it.
    maybe i'm looking at it wrong.
    cant really have a good conversation with missus over it as shes working long hours and tired and gets irritated with me trying to debate anything to do with the virus with her.


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  • #3712
    stockshares
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,760 ✭✭✭stockshares


    Westernyelp wrote: »
    Dr, Michael Ryan I think

    Correct


  • #3713
    Seamai
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,250 ✭✭✭Seamai


    Heres Johnny wrote: »
    Harvey Weinstein contracted it about 50 times yesterday

    I hope he recovers and has a long life in prison ahead.


  • #3714
    NasserShammaz
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 886 ✭✭✭NasserShammaz


    kingshankly wrote: »
    We need lockdown here too has anyone been in the city centre recently full of scum bags druggies and young hooligans it’s mayhem at the moment

    Which city centre is this. Stop scaremongering. Its always full of skum but its not mayhem . Fcuking bullwhip nonsense


  • #3715
    Atlantic Dawn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,145 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    McDonald's still running ads on RTE, talk about imposing torture on people.


  • #3716
    kowloon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,720 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    Atlantic Dawn wrote: »
    Life would have been easier in London during The Blitz, at least after the German bombers had done their work you could enjoy yourself until the next wave came.

    The possibly exploding bit sucked, but at least you could go to the tube station. You could stay there all night if you wanted.


  • #3717
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,111 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    babybuilder wrote: »
    You and Leo would make a good team:
    "But Mr Varadkar also said that people should not be berated for going to places that were crowded at the weekend.

    He said they probably did not realise until they turned up there and said that he believed most people were observing social distancing"

    Bit of a faux pas there


  • #3718
    CSSE09
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 519 ✭✭✭CSSE09


    Gynoid wrote: »
    A while ago there was some expert (on Ebola, I think) who said speed is more important than being right in an epidemic, and it will always seem like too much of a reaction in the beginning and too little in the end. Something like that. Anyone know who this was? Perhaps I am not remembering correctly. But I thought at the time this person is correct. People in charge do not want to look like nervous ninnies...but they should not care about that.
    Dr Mike Ryan


  • #3719
    Funsterdelux
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Funsterdelux


    IFA looking for help for beef farmers in this trying time. Jaysus christ, they never waste a crisis.

    Maybe they could cull a few beasts and plant some spuds and veg. Keep themselves fed at least


  • #3720
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Acosta wrote: »
    When this is over there'll be an inquiry. Many will want him thrown into prison. Some will want himself and Cummings put up against a wall and shot.
    The immediate happy demise of Cumming aside, it was on medical advice. They were chasing herds for good bit.


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  • #3721
    Mervyn Skidmore
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,209 ✭✭✭Mervyn Skidmore


    Sir Oxman wrote: »
    two friends of mine are taking that decision themselves tomorrow.
    One has forced his manager to allow him WFH as he can do so no problem, the other works in a retail chain and is petrified as they are doing virtually nothing to keep the staff safe.


    Mary Lou is correct - if a workplace cannot guarantee as much as they can the safety of their employees in the wrokplace, they should arrange WFH or close.

    What about the public sector?


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