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CoVid19 Part X - 1,564 cases ROI (9 deaths) 209 in NI (7 deaths) (25 March) *Read OP*

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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Dunno about anyone else but I think we need a few more pages discussing the merits of masks..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,114 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    I cant beleive they have not isolated Dublin, Cork, Limerick, Galway and belfast.

    Why wait until its a massive confirmed problem, its a huge problem right now as there are thousands of unconfirmed cases.

    I would propose all inter county movement to be banned right now bar essential goods. Them being,

    Food,
    Medicine,
    Chemicals,
    Fuel.

    Pray tell how that would be implemented and the virus stops spreading in other counties


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,313 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    RugbyLad11 wrote: »
    Usually the tube is full of suits but none in the picture, it seems to be mainly working class because middle class are now working from home.

    Unfortunately have no option to work from home
    This class difference was seen in the 1918 pandemic. The rich and middle classes were much less affected.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,325 ✭✭✭iLikeWaffles


    paddythere wrote: »
    Cannot be infected means the exact same as resisting infection larry. If you resist infection you also cannot pass it on. This is different from being an asymptomatic carrier who although showing no signs of infection can still pass it on. This is very simple stuff yet you don't seem to be able to understand any of it so please stop arguing.

    Actually no, if resist infection you can still pass it on. If you had chicken pox as a child you likely won't get it again but you can get it again in the form of shingles. You can also pass it to others who are immune compromised such as: somebody being treated for cancer, anyone with an auto-immune disease to anyone with hearth disease. Your immune system is extremely complex and stress and tiredness even plays a role in the effectiveness of fighting off an infection.

    I understand it pretty well thanks... You have many systems in place to fight infection such as lymphocytes (T-cells, B-cells ), histamine, NK-cells, basophils, interferons, granolocytes, phagocyctes, macrophages, cytokines, chemokines, netutrophils, prostaglandins, pluripotent haematopoietic stem cells and many many more... for instance Interleukin-1 attacks pathogens and can also play a key role in sleep, which could explain why you feel so drowsy when you're feeling unwell. Many of the above also have derivatives such as T-Cells which can subdivide into two categories killer T-Cells and helper T-Cells. Helper T-Cells help other immune cells to act, including helping B-Cells antibodies. As mentioned in a previous response memory T-Cells remember previous invaders and are able to coordinate a quick response if a pathogen shows up again.

    You don't get chickenpox again because the memory T-Cell is protecting you from a second attack, you can still carry chickenpox and pass it to some who is immune compromised such as someone undergoing cancer treatment who has had their body bombared with high doses of radiation that more likely than not has lost that particular T-Cell memory which holds onto the information pertaining to that particular pathogen.
    voluntary wrote: »
    https://www.echolive.ie/nationalnews/An-Post-introducing-two-week-Social-Welfare-payments-bb554c48-907b-4164-9326-51f1f549b41f-ds


    This is ridiculous.
    We ask people not to go to parks where there may be other people but at the same time telling 150.000 or so people who lost their jobs due to covic-19 to queue in post offices to collect their dole? Nobody thought this is asking for a disaster??? WTF can't they do bank account transfers for a few weeks?

    You can get it transferred to your bank account - either contact your local office (`LOCALOFFICENAME`@welfare.ie) asking for a DIR PMT 1 form or visit gov.ie: https://www.gov.ie/en/service/8ace3a-change-amend-your-bank-details/ fill the form out and send it to Carlow or into your local office where they can input the data.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,452 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    How serious is this, or are we taking it, when only now places like fooking doughnut shops are deciding to close? Yet people are in giving out because they happen to see people out in the fresh air walking around..


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 445 ✭✭iwillyeah1234


    RugbyLad11 wrote: »
    Usually the tube is full of suits but none in the picture, it seems to be mainly working class because middle class are now working from home.

    Unfortunately have no option to work from home

    that would be entirely accurate. This Coronavirus is going to spread like crazy amongst the people who literally live pay-cheque to pay-cheque..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,548 ✭✭✭Martina1991


    frillyleaf wrote:
    Does anyone know the average turn around for testing in other countries? I feel our figures are due to the delays in testing. I personally know of people waiting over a week at the stage for their families to be tested.
    is_that_so wrote:
    For the current backlog we are not but it is supposed to go to 4,500 tests a day from today and eventually hit 15,000 a day.
    Raconteuse wrote:
    Yeah I don't know why the wait for testing/results would be any longer here than anywhere else.
    Theres confusion around testing backlog partly because people are using the word "testing" for both the process of taking a swab and the actual laboratory analysis.

    There is a 40,000 person backlog for people waiting to be swabbed. This is patient sampling, not testing. This backlog is apparently 5 to 7 days according to reports on Boards.

    The backlog for the actual testing done in the laboratories is ~ <72 hours, quicker for hospital cases.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,575 ✭✭✭WhiteMemento9


    Allinall wrote: »
    Why would it be true?

    Eh, someone has stated on the radio that this has been their experience?

    It seems highly unlikely. That is why I stated if it is true. I don't really understand your question.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,475 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    london underground have shutdown a load of stations, have that many of their staff or their family got covid 19 symptoms that they can't go to work?


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,729 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    "That when the Interest Only/Moratorium period ends, my/our mortgage repayments will increase because they will be recalculated to ensure that the total outstanding is repaid (together with interest due) within the existing mortgage loan term remaining."

    https://aib.ie/covid19/mortgagecustomers/mortgage-form


    So, it's not a moratorium - the bastards still want their pound of flesh, in the middle of one of the biggest health disasters since 1918.

    What i would like to do to them I cannot write, as I don't want boards.ie shut down.

    To be fair - a full moratorium where they extend the end date of the Mortgage or whatever is essentially a whole new mortgage with all the associated paper-work.

    Inserting a "Payment holiday" is the quickest and easiest way to get this done.

    A 3 month gap would be likely less than a tenner a month for the vast majority of people and a lot less than that it you are early in the life-cycle.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,476 ✭✭✭neonsofa


    RugbyLad11 wrote: »
    Usually the tube is full of suits but none in the picture, it seems to be mainly working class because middle class are now working from home.

    Unfortunately have no option to work from home

    Not arguing with your observation, but i usually wear smart casual to work but now that we are closed to members of the public i wear my normal casual clothes because nobody is seeing me and i could not be bothered dressing up just to sit in my office alone.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,250 ✭✭✭Seamai


    In order to avail of the three month mortgage moratorium from AIB, you must have 2 months worth of mortgage payments saved in your current account - caller to Joe Duffy.

    I have my mortgage with BOI but everything else with AIB. I suspended the mortgage for three months this morning, apart from being on hold for 25 minutes waiting to get through, it was easy peasy, no questions asked about funds in current accounts or anything. Very straightforward.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,128 ✭✭✭Tacitus Kilgore


    Theres confusion around testing backlog partly because people are using the word "testing" for both the process of taking a swab and the actual laboratory analysis.

    There is a 40,000 person backlog for people waiting to be swabbed. This is patient sampling, not testing. This backlog is apparently 5 to 7 days according to reports on Boards.

    The backlog for the actual testing done in the laboratories is ~ <72 hours, quicker for hospital cases.


    A family member called for a test thursday 12th, was tested (swabbed) Monday 16th evening last, results received Sunday morning 22nd - positive.

    That's a backlog imo, noones fault but it is certainly a delay.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,575 ✭✭✭WhiteMemento9


    Theres confusion around testing backlog partly because people are using the word "testing" for both the process of taking a swab and the actual laboratory analysis.

    There is a 40,000 person backlog for people waiting to be swabbed. This is patient sampling, not testing. This backlog is apparently 5 to 7 days according to reports on Boards.

    The backlog for the actual testing done in the laboratories is ~ <72 hours, quicker for hospital cases.

    Does this mean that the stated capcity of around 2000 tests per day actually being processed as positive or negative will still remain the same or is the capcity on that side also been/being increased?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,898 ✭✭✭beggars_bush


    at what stage do people panic and go looking to withdraw their savings?
    asking for a friend


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 224 ✭✭BurnUp78


    is_that_so wrote: »
    Also know someone calling on parents, but at quite a distance and outside. This is the guideline. Might be a good time to have a family chat about it.

    Most of my aunts and uncles would have learning difficulties and it seems they are struggling to understand the seriousness of it all. It will probably take one of them getting sick themselves to start taking it seriously :/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 634 ✭✭✭TheAsYLuMkeY


    fritzelly wrote: »
    Pray tell how that would be implemented and the virus stops spreading in other counties

    Start with news announcement.

    Automatically you will get some compliance from people who care and take it seriously.

    soon it would be frowned upon by people for you to be arriving at their premises if you came from another county.

    the most infected regions then that would slow down the rate of it being exported to other counties.

    slowing its overall pace down.

    Is that not in essence the same as social distancing??

    Dublin has it bad, so by distancing dublin from wicklow, Kildare, meath it slows down how fact it can spread there and the counties further.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,837 ✭✭✭quokula


    Wibbs wrote: »

    effects-of-wearing-masks-vs-not.jpg

    So yes, even the basic surgical mask WILL reduce the risk of both getting infected and spreading infection(half and full case respirators will reduce the risk again). Unfortunately we simply don't have enough masks of any kind. :( But if you have one, wear it. If you have spares give them to your nearest hospital.

    It's worth pointing out that graph was made by a company who sells those masks, and it's based on their interpretation of the data from a study that was very specifically analysing indoor use of masks by people sharing a household with an infected person.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,293 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Belgian health minister thinks the current severe restrictions will be in place for about eight weeks and then start to be lifted.

    Might be a clue for us in Ireland as well : current set up of most places being closed lasts until mid to late May.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 871 ✭✭✭voluntary


    A family member called for a test thursday 12th, was tested (swabbed) Monday 16th evening last, results received Sunday morning 22nd - positive.

    That's a backlog imo, noones fault but it is certainly a delay.

    it seems OTC paracetamol, garlic, onions, honey and lemon is our hope.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,924 ✭✭✭SlowBlowin


    Wibbs wrote: »
    It is a good article and well worth reading to the end regarding basic surgical masks and levels of protection.



    effects-of-wearing-masks-vs-not.jpg

    So yes, even the basic surgical mask WILL reduce the risk of both getting infected and spreading infection(half and full case respirators will reduce the risk again). Unfortunately we simply don't have enough masks of any kind. :( But if you have one, wear it. If you have spares give them to your nearest hospital.

    There are posts on FB showing how to make masks from kitchen paper, do you/anyone think they would be any good ?

    I wonder what the mesh size/filtering abilities of kitchen paper are ? I am sure if I made one mine would go soggy and be pretty useless ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 634 ✭✭✭TheAsYLuMkeY


    at what stage do people panic and go looking to withdraw their savings?
    asking for a friend

    No good if the shops start to refuse cash notes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 814 ✭✭✭IrishStuff09


    Northern Ireland's Department of Health has announced 20 new cases of Covid-19, bring the total number to 148.

    The total number of tests completed in Northern Ireland is 2,692.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 871 ✭✭✭voluntary


    Wibbs wrote: »
    It is a good article and well worth reading to the end regarding basic surgical masks and levels of protection.



    effects-of-wearing-masks-vs-not.jpg

    So yes, even the basic surgical mask WILL reduce the risk of both getting infected and spreading infection(half and full case respirators will reduce the risk again). Unfortunately we simply don't have enough masks of any kind. :( But if you have one, wear it. If you have spares give them to your nearest hospital.

    Any place in this country which sells masks? I see people in masks, where do they get them from?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,321 ✭✭✭dinorebel


    Thank fu*k all those transport links we begged for to Donegal never materialized


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,245 ✭✭✭Gretas Gonna Get Ya!


    There's already been posts on here about the general public wearing gloves. Frequent and correct hand washing is more effective.

    What if you have a skin condition, such as dermatitis for example... if that person washes their hands too often, they won't have any skin left!

    I know someone with bad dermatitis - if they didn't have surgical gloves right now, their hands would be completely destroyed. They do wash their hands, of course, but they have to be careful how often each day. Cleaning and re-using gloves is their only option.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,580 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    I cant beleive they have not isolated Dublin, Cork, Limerick, Galway and belfast.

    Why wait until its a massive confirmed problem, its a huge problem right now as there are thousands of unconfirmed cases.

    I would propose all inter county movement to be banned right now bar essential goods. Them being,

    Food,
    Medicine,
    Chemicals,
    Fuel.


    Yes Dublin for sure needs a lockdown, no one in or out. It's incredible that people haven't learnt from the Chinese lock down of Wuhan, yes it came late, and we saw what happened for their late response, yet the world is doing the same for their epicentres, allowing it to get out of control before the lock it down.

    CRAZY


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,924 ✭✭✭SlowBlowin


    quokula wrote: »
    It's worth pointing out that graph was made by a company who sells those masks, and it's based on their interpretation of the data from a study that was very specifically analysing indoor use of masks by people sharing a household with an infected person.

    Pretty relevant then if you are indoors shopping and there might be an infected person about...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    Northern Ireland's Department of Health has announced 20 new cases of Covid-19, bring the total number to 148.

    The total number of tests completed in Northern Ireland is 2,692.

    Interesting that NI is reporting a similar 5% positive case rate. Probably means current tests are a pretty accurate report of prevalence of covid across the island


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 263 ✭✭Fleetwoodmac


    voluntary wrote: »
    it seems OTC paracetamol, garlic, onions, honey and lemon is our hope.

    And tonic water..


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