CoVid19 Part X - 1,564 cases ROI (9 deaths) 209 in NI (7 deaths) (25 March) Read OP

otnomart · 23-03-2020 02:10PM

Poor Spain,
Spanish newspapers are reporting that their hospitals IT systems are now under cyber attack.
Despicable and horrendous crime.

https://www.elmundo.es/espana/2020/03/23/5e78a2e8fc6c8318308b461b.html

https://elpais.com/sociedad/2020-03-23/ultima-hora-del-coronavirus-en-directo.html

Naggdefy · 23-03-2020 02:11PM

Our experts know very little about CV.

I'll give a personal example. I have asthma which worsened after a bout of pneumonia I was hospitalized for in 2018. I get an awful lot of throat and chest infections since then.

At the end of February I was attending a respiratory consultant in one of our major hospitals. Covid 19 was taking off in Italy. We talked about it. He/she said it will be here in a week. I said do you think this has flu epidemic 1918 potential. Consultant replied no, we will contain this easily with the medication we have available. I regularly meet the consultant and would get on well. I said ah you're only saying this not to worry me. I got the reply, no, I'm absolutely serious.

wakka12 · 23-03-2020 02:11PM

otnomart wrote: »

Maybe th Netherlands will change tactic now, after cases quadruple in a week from 1,077 (20) to 4,204 (179);

High level meeting this afternoon followed by press conference
https://nltimes.nl/2020/03/23/govt-crisis-team-safety-offices-meeting-assess-covid-19-measures-press-conference-630-pm

Pictures of Dutch cities I've seen are completely deserted, absolutely not a soul outside their homes

spookwoman · 23-03-2020 02:11PM

TheDenialTwist wrote: »

Why would anyone be using a mask if they don't have SARS-CoV-2? And even then, that person should not be out in public places anyway. Masks are needed by Health Personnel and for those caring for someone who has contracted the virus. Masks aren't recommended for the general public.

:rolleyes: You do know people do need to leave the house and get groceries, prescriptions, the essentials.
Ask yourself why so health workers wear gloves and masks.... hmmm to stop them getting the virus maybe?. The paper masks are useless but the P3 masks if worn properly along with gloves and goggles will protect people if they follow the proper procedure when putting them on etc.

wakka12 · 23-03-2020 02:12PM

moonlighting_1 wrote: »

hospital in spain

https://twitter.com/edleonklinger/status/1241699484469526531?s=20

This is insane, do they seriously not even have alittle mattress(donated from locals if supply is that short..?) or some pillows for the patients on the floor?

Wibbs · 23-03-2020 02:13PM

kowloon wrote: »

Try explaining this to some of the Brexit cohort. Two U-Boat campaigns weren't enough to learn dem gud. It's ironic that Churchill is deified by the same people.

Now he is, but the second the war was over he was voted out. They knew then well enough. Good for war, not so good for peace and the British people wanted a change from toffs lording it over them. But yeah it's easy to forget that the same Churchill's biggest moment of worry was the U-Boats, or that Britain had food rationing up until 1954.

El Weirdo · 23-03-2020 02:13PM

Naggdefy wrote: »

Our experts know very little about CV.

I'll give a personal example. I have asthma which worsened after a bout of pneumonia I was hospitalized for in 2018. I get an awful lot of throat and chest infections since then.

At the end of February I was attending a respiratory consultant in one of our major hospitals. Covid 19 was taking off in Italy. We talked about it. He/she said it will be here in a week. I said do you think this has flu epidemic 1918 potential. Consultant replied no, we will contain this easily with the medication we have available. I regularly meet the consultant and would get on well. I said ah you're only saying this not to worry me. I got the reply, no, I'm absolutely serious.

Not our experts. *Your* expert.

bottlebrush · 23-03-2020 02:14PM

Glebee wrote: »

If the chipper in my town closes there will be fcuking anarchy...

I went for a drive yesterday to kill a bit of time. Didn't get out of the car at all. Pulled up in a town to make a phone call. Chipper open across the street. I would given my right arm (but not my life!) For a bag of chips right then. The smell of chips wafting down the street was almost too much of a temptation to resist. I had to drive away before I gave in.

And in normal circumstances I wouldnt be too much into chips at all- only when I cant have them!

Kermit.de.frog · 23-03-2020 02:14PM

The Federal Reserve has announced it is to start buying corporate bonds and it's open ended.

There is a serious scale of economic hardship coming.

As plentiful as money is it's going to become ever harder to come by!

khalessi · 23-03-2020 02:14PM

TheDenialTwist wrote: »

Why would anyone be using a mask if they don't have SARS-CoV-2? And even then, that person should not be out in public places anyway. Masks are needed by Health Personnel and for those caring for someone who has contracted the virus. Masks aren't recommended for the general public.

I wore one and gloves to shops for last few days as I have family member who are immunocompromised and I dont want to be bringing anything back

CiarraiAbu2 · 23-03-2020 02:15PM

https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/kerry-man-28-battling-covid-19-describes-cruel-cruel-illness-989520.html

Valhallapt · 23-03-2020 02:16PM

bilston wrote: »

NI seems to be doing a lot better than London. But it's early days.

You can see from the ROI data that there is very little community transmission in the border counties, presumably this holds true on the opposite side of the border. Belfast will be a hotspot though.

fritzelly · 23-03-2020 02:17PM

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

How you holding up, fritz?

Every day without a cough is a good day, now I need to go face Lidl as beer stock running dangerously low

terenc · 23-03-2020 02:17PM

Glebee wrote: »

If the chipper in my town closes there will be fcuking anarchy...

Town full of morons.

bilston · 23-03-2020 02:18PM

CiarraiAbu2 wrote: »

https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/kerry-man-28-battling-covid-19-describes-cruel-cruel-illness-989520.html

28, and while Asthmatic, it sounds like he would consider himself in good health.

I think this is the thing about "underlying health conditions"...it's quite a loose term.

Glad he seems to be recovering.

Tea drinker · 23-03-2020 02:18PM

Glebee wrote: »

Is the NCT thing not sorted yet?

course not, and now that it has dragged this long they can hide behind corona

is_that_so · 23-03-2020 02:18PM

Interesting graph from ElPais on the trajectory of selected countries. US doesn't look good at all.
https://elpais.com/sociedad/2020/03/17/actualidad/1584436648_230452.html

Blueshoe · 23-03-2020 02:19PM

Tea drinker wrote: »

course not, and now that it has dragged this long they can hide behind corona

Yeah screw them. Imagine not risking a car falling on someone. Cowards

Wibbs · 23-03-2020 02:20PM

cdgalwegian wrote: »

That refers to FFP3 masks (high particulate; expensive, and hard to come by), not standard surgery masks.

As I noted earlier C, they weren't particularly expensive. I got this pretty bloody good one for 25 quid last year long before this pox was on the horizon.

Now they're changing hands on ebay for 100 quid and over. Price gouging cnuts. :mad::mad:

spookwoman wrote: »

The paper masks are useless but the P3 masks if worn properly along with gloves and goggles will protect people if they follow the proper procedure when putting them on etc.

The paper masks alone do most certainly reduce the risk, if properly worn and fitted and observing the hand hygiene and distancing. But yeah the respirator types like above are significantly better.

When I see doctors and nurses in Italy and Spain and the UK dealing directly with covid patients in a crowded ward with only surgical masks it really saddens me.

Talk about sheer unalloyed bravery.

TheAsYLuMkeY · 23-03-2020 02:20PM

khalessi wrote: »

I wore one and gloves to shops for last few days as I have family member who are immunocompromised and I dont want to be bringing anything back

I have been wearing gloves when out for about two and a half weeks now at this stage.

Wearing a mask also this past week.

(Not surgical one doctors need, just something to shield my own nose and mouth.)

BurnUp78 · 23-03-2020 02:20PM

Hey guys looking for some advice, my grandmother is in her 80s but family members are continuing to visit her house such as my uncle and his girlfriend. I'm just wondering is this okay as long as they are keeping their distance from her or should I ask them to stop visiting the house altogether?

kowloon · 23-03-2020 02:20PM

Seamai wrote: »

That other poster was correct. The Benzalkonium Chloride is what's killing the germs, it's another commonly used disinfectant.

Didn't recognise that one, the next ingredient, DDAC, is also a disinfectant.

marklazarcovic · 23-03-2020 02:21PM

On the waiting list to be tested as off 9.30 am today,Galway. Hopefully I get it quick, history of chest issues.

otnomart · 23-03-2020 02:21PM

kilkenny31 wrote: »

If we see say 100 or so new cases a day for the next the rest of the week which would be low is there a reason to relax some of the restrictions in place or do people still think we could see large daily increases and numbers like the UK Spain Italy. Like could the fact that the population density outside of say Dublin is so low that we don't need the same restrictions.

You could look at Norway.

population: 5 million
density: 15 per Km2 /38 people per mi2
Life expectancy: 82.51 years

Cases
13 March: 750 (1)
today: 2538 (9)

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caveat emptor · 23-03-2020 02:21PM

TheDenialTwist wrote: »

Why would anyone be using a mask if they don't have SARS-CoV-2? And even then, that person should not be out in public places anyway. Masks are needed by Health Personnel and for those caring for someone who has contracted the virus. Masks aren't recommended for the general public.

So I'm confused. Is your issue with the fact they don't work? Or that we don't have enough anyway.

I'd agree with you in saying a surgical mask doesn't prevent you from contracting it but a respirator is designed to filter out particulate matter (including viruses in droplets).

Surgical mask have been proven to prevent you from spreading it to other people. We need to block chains of transmission.

Confounding the lack of supply with the science of how masks work is disingenuous. Government needs to be held to account on this point.

is_that_so · 23-03-2020 02:22PM

Huge COVID-19 drug trials launching under the auspices of WHO.
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/03/who-launches-global-megatrial-four-most-promising-coronavirus-treatments

Fitz* · 23-03-2020 02:22PM

I wonder are the contact tracers encouraging suspected cases to use Google timelines to help identify any community transmissions?

Everyone with a smartphone and GPS turned on will have their every moment tracked and actually beneficial in this case. I could tell you my every location at any one time for the past number of years straight away if I had to.

i57dwun4yb1pt8 · 23-03-2020 02:23PM

can we stop moaning about feckin masks already

if you have one , wear it when out near people
anything proactive to slow this down is a help

if you dont have one and cant get one ,
make one , plenty of you tube vids on how to easily make one .

MOR316 · 23-03-2020 02:24PM

On Twitter, I just saw someone tweet about how they're stuck in Austrailia, with the threat of being homeless because of this virus. She has been asking the Embassy for help. Not just her but, for her colleagues out there too.

Miriam O'Callaghan replies, telling her to ring Joe Duffy...

Jesus Christ :rolleyes:

TheDenialTwist · 23-03-2020 02:24PM

khalessi wrote: »

I wore one and gloves to shops for last few days as I have family member who are immunocompromised and I dont want to be bringing anything back

Masks are best left to those with the virus. As for wearing gloves :eyeroll:

People just won't adhere to the Public Health messages regarding the wearing of masks.

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CoVid19 Part X - 1,564 cases ROI (9 deaths) 209 in NI (7 deaths) (25 March) Read OP