CoVid19 Part X - 1,564 cases ROI (9 deaths) 209 in NI (7 deaths) (25 March) *Read OP*

murpho999 wrote: »

I think you need to look at that graph again.

I suspect the red lines stopping where they do and not wrapping around the China dot was deliberate

Donald Trump wrote: »

Given there is not enough masks for everyone to be able to wear a fresh one every few hours or every day, then they must be priortised for those putting themselves at the front line.

One can wear a mask going around their daily tasks which will help limit them spreading it if they have the virus.
But they can also achieve a reduction (to almost zero) of their chances in spreading it by staying the fuck at home and letting those frontline staff have the masks.


You posts are very dangerous. There are lots of selfish people out there who could read that, and go out and try to hoover up any available masks. I have a friend who has a severely compromised immune system and has been wearing a mask when going out for months. Way before corona. She needs those masks. Some arsehole with a bit of money to throw around who buys up 100 that they never use and leaves them to rot in a box in the garden shed increases the chances of her not having them available. She will always get them through official channels - not over the counter public routes - but the official channels still have to have them to give them to her

Get a grip. I did not say I disagreed with governments cornering supply for health workers, I actually approve of that and support it. Health workers should get first priority.

However, there are masks available to the public that the health services don't want. Governements also don't source masks for the health services from the local chemist, DIY store or retail online merchant. They buy direct from major distributors and manufacturers, which you yourself have confirmed vis a vis your friend, so cut the BS hyperbole about 'my post being dangerous'.

Some rich guy is not going to deprive the government of supply. They have powers to compel exclusive supply if they wish. There was a story several weeks ago, that a major manufacturer of masks in Limerick was ramping up production to 24/7 production, and that all of it's production was destined to fill an order from China. You want someone to rail against, I suggest you pull your head in and go ask our government why they are allowing that.

I already have a mask from years ago for DIY uses. The government telling me and others, who might also already be equipped, that they don't work, is dishonest and unhelpful and does nothing to improve their own supply situation.

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Kite flying by the British government.

They are on the exact course of Italy - they have more deaths now than Italy had at the same number of cases.

Desperation - they need to do something draconian to ensure people comply. Asking won't cut it for a portion of the population unfortunately.

Hopefully they will extend those measures to Northern Ireland as many of them are treating this as a holiday and heading off in their droves to Donegal and other counties to their caravans/holiday homes etc

What we need here in this country is legislation to force people to go to their primary homes and issue strong warnings that people not from this jurisdiction will be refused medical assistance in the event they fall ill here.

They need to change the 'wash your hands' catchphrase to 'go home and stay home'

There are fears over possible carriers without symptoms who are not counted in official figures

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/3076281/coronavirus-concern-wuhan-community-over-suspected-asymptomatic

"But a case in Wuhan has raised concern about possible carriers who are not counted in the official figures because they do not have immediate symptoms, typically known as being asymptomatic."

"Two more cases were reported by a residential community in Wuhan on Friday, but authorities later clarified that they had already been counted in February – one patient had been discharged from hospital and the other was still being treated"

My parents were strictly observing self isolation, they are in their 70's and they can't get online delivery slots now so they have to go to the shops.

cdgalwegian wrote: »

The ordinary surgical masks that you see people wearing to prevent Covid-19 spread are next to useless in preventing inhalation of airborne viruses, which easily pass through it (high-particulate filtraters like FFP3 only work).
At this stage of the game however, we should all start using them if we need to go out: 1) they stop you touching your face, a major means of transmission 2) it'll show we are treating this seriously, and mark out those who aren't. People might feel silly wearing them in self-conscious Ireland, but the message needs to get out that this is far more contagious than what people think it is.
They are in plentiful supply, and can be distributed by the HSE.

They are not plentiful in supply.

cnocbui wrote: »

Get a grip. I did not say I disagreed with governments cornering supply for health workers, I actually approve of that and support it. Health workers should get first priority.

However, there are masks available to the public that the health services don't want. Governements also don't source masks for the health services from the local chemist, DIY store or retail online merchant. They buy direct from major distributors and manufacturers, which you yourself have confirmed vis a vis your friend, so cut the BS hyperbole about 'my post being dangerous'.

Some rich guy is not going to deprive the government of supply. They have powers to compel exclusive supply if they wish. There was a story several weeks ago, that a major manufacturer of masks in Limerick was ramping up production to 24/7 production, and that all of it's production was destined to fill an order from China. You want someone to rail against, I suggest you pull your head in and go ask our government why they are allowing that.

I already have a mask from years ago for DIY uses. The government telling me and others, who might also already be equipped, that they don't work, is dishonest and unhelpful and does nothing to improve their own supply situation.

Get a grip yourself and stop posting "advice" that is contrary to official advice unless you are actually qualified to comment on it.

cloudatlas wrote: »

My parents were strictly observing self isolation, they are in their 70's and they can't get online delivery slots now so they have to go to the shops.

Have the nobody who can do a shop for them ??

Im sure this has been answered before. Ive just read on facebook you should drink hot drinks ( tea coffee broths) also gargle with mouthwash like listerine. Is this reliable info

Rumors are now spreading in China's social media that the coronavirus is from Italy.

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/3076334/coronavirus-strange-pneumonia-seen-lombardy-november-leading

A “strange pneumonia” was circulating in northern Italy
as long ago as November, weeks before doctors were made aware of the novel coronavirus outbreak
in China, one of the European country’s leading medical experts said this week.

dickdonk14 wrote: »

Im sure this has been answered before. Ive just read on facebook you should drink hot drinks ( tea coffee broths) also gargle with mouthwash like listerine. Is this reliable info

It won't do you any harm. But it also won't protect you.

Stop reading Facebook would be my advice!

dickdonk14 wrote: »

Im sure this has been answered before. Ive just read on facebook you should drink hot drinks ( tea coffee broths) also gargle with mouthwash like listerine. Is this reliable info

No.

stephenjmcd wrote: »

They aren't plentiful in supply. There is no point in using them when most people wouldn't have a clue how to put them on correctly.

Our healthcare staff need the supply more than we do, unless you have the virus it is pointless wearing one.

I feel they would be very useful for everyone to wear them as people with no symptoms are actually more dangerous that people with symptoms as they are not strictly isolating.

It’s not about preventing catching it, they are useful to prevent spreading it. This is why keeping physical distance is so important, people without symptoms are more dangerous as they are walking around in our community.

Unfortunately we don’t have a good supply of these so they need to be saved for healthcare workers and rightly so.