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CoVid19 Part X - 1,564 cases ROI (9 deaths) 209 in NI (7 deaths) (25 March) *Read OP*

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  • #1922
    iwillyeah1234
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 445 ✭✭iwillyeah1234


    may have been posted already, but everyone really needs to see this Sky news report from Italy

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INmEciVm-6Q


  • #1923
    cnocbui
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,011 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    lawred2 wrote: »
    why not just wear a badge to show we are serious about it rather than known useless facemasks?

    I mean, if the intention is just to show who's serious and who's not..

    Face masks are not 'known useless', quite the opposite. Governments have been peddling this deceit so as to stop panic buying and secure supply for health workers.


  • #1924
    Blue2044
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11 ✭Blue2044


    LillySV wrote: »
    What the **** is wrong with people!!! So people with health issues such as asthma deserve to die or what!!? It kills people full stop!!! For that reason everyone needs to take all the steps possible to eliminate this virus !!!

    Young people sent to war years ago... had to stay in wet trenches for months ... rot setting into their bones while they watched their dead friends getting ate by rats.... and here’s our current pack of useless millennials that normally can’t be got out of their house as they on ps4 and on social media... and they now all have to be out and huddled up together ... country is fuct if that’s our future geniuses ....

    Millennials age range is 24-39, Gen Z are the teenagers just fyi


  • #1925
    Ger Roe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,193 ✭✭✭Ger Roe


    Tacitus Kilgore wrote: »
    Lack of ability to police it? Im not sure, at this stage its not making much sense. All I know is a lot of workplaces are closing today having had suspected/confirmed cases from staff appear over the weekend.

    Maybe the govt. wants everything to close of its own accord?

    That seems to be it... softly, softly.

    We have one of the highest rates of adult 'children' still living at the family home, in Europe. Many with elderly parents in the high risk category.

    Many of those adult children are still obliged to go to work and risk bringing the virus home to their parents who haven't left the house in three weeks. The advice continues to be - when you develop symptoms give us a call.

    That will be too late for the elderly people that they may be living with. Some of our manufacturing flagship multinational companies are still operating with many hundreds of people on site - all risking bringing something home to other family members.


  • #1926
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    dublin99 wrote: »
    Masks do work. Look at the rate of increase in countries where everyone wears a mask:

    https://mobile.twitter.com/jperla/status/1241756707375575040/photo/1

    Correlation, a graph showing the 'number of people who are staying at home except for groceries/pharmacy' would also look similar, same with a graph showing how many times citizens of each country wash hands daily, etc.


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  • #1927
    Boggles
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    is_that_so wrote: »
    He is a self-absorbed bellend retweeting others, who would just be empty noise on the internet if he was a random person like they rest of us. The Chinese also locked people into their houses according to some reports. The S Koreans went for test, test, test as did Singapore. This is now our route.

    It's our aspiration, we are failing.

    40,000 people waiting for a test is not great reading.

    As for the mass wearing of masks, it works in combination with other measures. We don't have them so it is not an option for us right now.

    Some countries are adopting the rule that you are not allowed out without one.


  • #1928
    darjeeling
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 962 ✭✭✭darjeeling


    jamesf85 wrote: »
    I have no knowledge on this so anyone that might then please feel free to correct me.

    I've been a little bit confident up until now that we would find some treatment that would work against this. I know that the virus is constantly changing but with the entire world being affected I assumed some scientist somewhere would find a treatment of some form to help our fight with this.

    There were reports that some of the maleria and ebola medicine worked but that seems to be untrue now.

    To be honest I'm very surprised that we have found nothing so far, with what I assume is an unlimited amount of funding now and nearly every scientist working on this.


    There have been a lot of trials run in China, and the results are now coming out.

    The anti-malarial drug chloroquine (or hydroxychloroquine) still could be promising, and is being used in multiple countries even without knowing that it's effective. It can have side-effects though.

    A randomised trial of the antiviral drug Avigan (favipiravir) that reported on Friday showed that it gave improved recovery time and reduction in symptoms, without too many side-effects.
    This drug is now included in the revised Chinese clinical guidelines (link)

    We're waiting on results of another antiviral, remdesivir (the drug originally designed for ebola), though that also looks promising.

    And there are a few others that could also give benefits.

    But knowing a drug works is only useful if it can be delivered to patients at a time when it will make a difference, so even when we find what works there's still work to be done.


  • #1929
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    mick987 wrote: »
    I think that lady has died and she was clinically obese, Tragic but did have underlying health issues

    Source? That's a reputable newspaper and calling it fake news is fairly harsh. (I'm not saying you are wrong, you may well be right) Would make sense if objective was to scare people straight.

    Considering for a moment you are right. Obesity it Ireland is a huge problem. Nearly half the population are now "at risk"

    506666.jpg


  • #1930
    frillyleaf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 801 ✭✭✭frillyleaf


    weldoninhio wrote: »
    We were told there was a low to moderate chance of getting it in Ireland.

    We were told you had to be within one metre for 15 minutes to contract it.

    I'd be more confident now listening to the Chinese, Italian and Spanish doctors than ours. Stay in, do not go out unless absolutely necessary (food and medication) is their advice.

    Yes I also agree. We were being told until very recently we just had to wash our hands and not be around someone for 15 minutes. I trust the Italian doctors and the scientists who don’t have vested interests.


  • #1931
    beolight
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 624 ✭✭✭beolight


    Doctor Shipman wrote: »
    I reckon they are afraid. It's one thing asking people to stay in. Telling them they must stay in could spark off something unpleasant. Plenty of scummy people in Ireland and the UK.

    In short, i do not believe the government have the stones to enforce proper lockdown the way it would be needed to be enforced.

    Of course they are afraid they are doing what we should have done at the start.


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  • #1932
    iwillyeah1234
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 445 ✭✭iwillyeah1234


    Nandos and Costa Coffee have just announced they are shutting down in the UK. MacDonalds announced the same earlier this morning.


  • #1933
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Tacitus Kilgore wrote: »
    Lack of ability to police it? Im not sure, at this stage its not making much sense. All I know is a lot of workplaces are closing today having had suspected/confirmed cases from staff appear over the weekend.

    Maybe the govt. wants everything to close of its own accord?

    Italy tried to keep as many businesses open as long as possible. Plenty had to shut or reduce operations as people weren't showing up for work. Probably due to caring for sick relative, quarantining themselves or not showing up for fear of contracting.


  • #1934
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYwGpf2IWiE&feature=emb_logo
    If you ever wanted to see what I am Legend shot in Amstedam would look like..


  • #1935
    old_aussie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,410 ✭✭✭old_aussie


    wakka12 wrote: »
    Wonder why Malysia, Indonesia, Phillippines and Thailand appear to be experiencing so much more cases and deaths than other North Asian countries which responded very well and seemed to flatten the curve very effectively very quickly

    Made in Malaysia: How mosque event spread virus to SE Asia ...

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/03/malaysia-mosque-event-virus-hotspot-se-asia-200318021302367.html


  • #1936
    Donald Trump
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,327 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    old_aussie wrote: »
    That's why it was an integral part of reducing the spread.


    They know how to use them and they have supplies of them to go around.

    We would have an immediate shortage here if the government told people to go out and start buying them.

    In addition there is the point that they might give a false sense of security to people who never learned how to use them.

    There have been appeals in the US for people who purchased masks to consider donating them to their local hospital


  • #1937
    Mervyn Skidmore
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,210 ✭✭✭Mervyn Skidmore


    Boggles wrote: »
    It's our aspiration, we are failing.

    40,000 people waiting for a test is not great reading.

    As for the mass wearing of masks, it works in combination with other measures. We don't have them so it is not an option for us right now.

    Some countries are adopting the rule that you are not allowed out without one.

    40,000 waiting is not a problem as long as they are self isolating. A test is not a cure, it is a snapshot in time that shows if someone is infected and is then used to ensure isolation to reduce spread. If those 40,000 self isolate, have the virus, and get better without passing it on, it's not really a problem.


  • #1938
    cnocbui
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,011 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    breadmonster wrote: »
    cant even buy a mask anywhere now :(

    Probably can: https://www.machinemart.co.uk/categories/?search=respirator

    P3 level filtration respirator style masks are the most effective also.


  • #1939
    frillyleaf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 801 ✭✭✭frillyleaf


    Unearthly wrote: »
    Sky News are really pushing the idea that UK might be in lockdown in 24 hours.

    Hopefully this will get people over here to cop on


  • #1940
    RandomName2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,575 ✭✭✭RandomName2


    jamesf85 wrote: »
    Thta simply isn't true. Italy has had 3 people die in the past week that had no underlying condition. Thats 3 out of a few thousand, less than 0.1%.

    The 4 cases in Ireland so far are all people with serious underlying conditions that would probably have passed away had they caught any flu strain.

    This is very serious but lets stop the misinformation.

    The last of the 'it is just flu' crowd. You don't need to be a statistician to know that what you said is clearly wrong, given the disparity in deaths between Covid-19 and flu.
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=112912030&postcount=9202

    Besides which if you count up everyone in Ireland with any sort of respiratory, cardiology, or auto-immune disorder, I would be surprised if it wasn't the majority of the country.


  • #1941
    murpho999
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,765 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    LillySV wrote: »
    I’ve read a lot of sensible responses from him ... we should be looking closely at how other countries have reduced risk but we don’t seem to be ....

    You don't think the government and HSE are looking at what other countries are dong?

    Despite them saying on numerous occasions that they are?

    Do you think we need the likes of Paddy Cosgrave, who bascially organises parties for nerds, and people on the internet should be the ones to tell them?


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  • #1942
    Comhrá
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,143 ✭✭✭Comhrá


    Unbelievable!

    Sky News

    40m
    Crowds form outside a Tesco store in Dudley in the West Midlands after it opened its doors early for NHS staff who are helping tackle the #coronavirus outbreak.




    https://twitter.com/i/status/1242022633035661315


  • #1943
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    iwillyeah1234 wrote: »
    Nandos and Costa Coffee have just announced they are shutting down in the UK. MacDonalds announced the same earlier this morning.

    I wonder are all these businesses just closing simply because of a lack of business over recent days rather than any proactive measures to protect public health


  • #1944
    RandomName2
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    iwillyeah1234 wrote: »
    ETubJIZUEAEo9iF?format=jpg&name=large

    Yeah, there's a lie going around that masks aren't effective.

    If they weren't effective doctors wouldn't be wearing them.

    The lie is being propagated in order for medical staff to have enough supply of them. However the lie seems to have done more harm than good, because with the lack of demand for masks there has been no corresponding increase in production.


  • #1945
    john why
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 457 ✭✭john why


    weldoninhio wrote: »
    We were told there was a low to moderate chance of getting it in Ireland.

    We were told you had to be within one metre for 15 minutes to contract it.

    I'd be more confident now listening to the Chinese, Italian and Spanish doctors than ours. Stay in, do not go out unless absolutely necessary (food and medication) is their advice.

    Says your man who spent last weekend in the pub.


  • #1946
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Boggles wrote: »
    It's our aspiration, we are failing.

    40,000 people waiting for a test is not great reading.

    As for the mass wearing of masks, it works in combination with other measures. We don't have them so it is not an option for us right now.

    Some countries are adopting the rule that you are not allowed out without one.
    No, we just haven't got there yet. 4,500 tests from today and up to 15,000 daily soon will take care of that along with up to 50 test centres. While it may be spin of sorts Harris pointed out we are ramping up to a system that would normally take months to put in place. It'll put us on par with Germany and S Korea in terms of testing.


  • #1947
    old_aussie
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    wakka12 wrote: »
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYwGpf2IWiE&feature=emb_logo
    If you ever wanted to see what I am Legend shot in Amstedam would look like..

    Great drone footage, ghost town lol

    I saw the huge lines of people lined up to get their pot before the lock down.

    I'm hunkered down and gunna just knock back a few home grown cones and chill out.

    BBQ in the backyard every day.


  • #1948
    Donald Trump
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,327 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    cnocbui wrote: »
    Face masks are not 'known useless', quite the opposite. Governments have been peddling this deceit so as to stop panic buying and secure supply for health workers.


    Given there is not enough masks for everyone to be able to wear a fresh one every few hours or every day, then they must be priortised for those putting themselves at the front line.

    One can wear a mask going around their daily tasks which will help limit them spreading it if they have the virus.
    But they can also achieve a reduction (to almost zero) of their chances in spreading it by staying the fuck at home and letting those frontline staff have the masks.


    You posts are very dangerous. There are lots of selfish people out there who could read that, and go out and try to hoover up any available masks. I have a friend who has a severely compromised immune system and has been wearing a mask when going out for months. Way before corona. She needs those masks. Some arsehole with a bit of money to throw around who buys up 100 that they never use and leaves them to rot in a box in the garden shed increases the chances of her not having them available. She will always get them through official channels - not over the counter public routes - but the official channels still have to have them to give them to her


  • #1949
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    RandomName2 wrote: »
    Yeah, there's a lie going around that masks aren't effective.

    If they weren't effective doctors wouldn't be wearing them.

    The lie is being propagated in order for medical staff to have enough supply of them. However the lie seems to have done more harm than good, because with the lack of demand for masks there has been no corresponding increase in production.
    It's actually that testing and contact tracing that has been most effective for both S Korea and Singapore.

    I guess Holohan is lying then as he said it.
    He said he did not believe masks have a role to play, unless directed by a doctor or medical professional.

    https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0307/1120765-coronavirus/


  • #1950
    RugbyLad11
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    iwillyeah1234 wrote: »
    ETubJIZUEAEo9iF?format=jpg&name=large

    I agree that masks do help, but that chart says China don't wear masks when they do:confused:


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  • #1951
    GM228
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,922 ✭✭✭GM228


    Some banks closing now according to RTE, roll on panic ATM withdrawals....


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