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  • #182
    Garfin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 165 ✭✭Garfin


    con747 wrote: »
    That is a 6 year old article!

    The practice has just started this month March 2020 in Ireland see the first line of the post.


  • #183
    odyssey06
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,834 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Garfin wrote: »
    Tesco Ireland have now started this practice in the last few weeks creating a food safety and public health risk.

    Not sure what any of that has to do with coronavirus so all I will say is that if you have evidence of about rodent activity in one of Ireland's supermarkets you should report it to the Food Safety authority.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • #184
    gmisk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,537 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    AulWan wrote: »
    I did an online shop for my parents and had it delivered from SuperValu.

    Tesco are still refusing to reinstate deliveries to parts of Tallaght they cut off last year, despite pleas from residents there.

    They do not provide a click and collect service at any of their stores at the Square, Clondalkin, Rathcoole, Templeogue, Nutgrove or Fonthill, either, which is the least they could do if they won't deliver.
    Why did they cut off deliveries
    Supervalu in fairness from what I have seen are playing a blinder with social distancing, limiting numbers etc


  • #185
    con747
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,373 ✭✭✭con747


    Garfin wrote: »
    The practice has just started this month March 2020 in Ireland see the first line of the post.

    Maybe you can provide a link to show this as fact? My OH is in the industry involved with the supply chain in respect of the Combi's being referred to and although it is with a different company I can assure you that is not the case in her company.

    Don't expect anything from life, just be grateful to be alive.



  • #186
    Garfin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 165 ✭✭Garfin


    con747 wrote: »
    Maybe you can provide a link to show this as fact? My OH is in the industry involved with the supply chain in respect of the Combi's being referred to and although it is with a different company I can assure you that is not the case in her company.

    Read my post, I specifically say other food retailers are not doing this, i linked the article because it describes the practice and the issues when they introduced it In England.
    I know the facts because I work in the sector including how the other retailers handle their food waste.


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  • #187
    AulWan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,653 ✭✭✭AulWan


    gmisk wrote: »
    Why did they cut off deliveries
    Supervalu in fairness from what I have seen are playing a blinder with social distancing, limiting numbers etc

    The usual excuse, claims of anti-social behaviour. Funny how the local SuperValu, who offers free delivery when you shop instore, or SuperValu online, doesn't seem to have the same problem. SuperValu are dear, though.

    Even if Tesco at least offered click and collect at their branches at the Square, Fonthill (which is huge) or Templeogue, it would be something.


  • #188
    con747
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,373 ✭✭✭con747


    Garfin wrote: »
    Read my post, I specifically say other food retailers are not doing this, i linked the article because it describes the practice and the issues when they introduced it In England.
    I know the facts because I work in the sector including how the other retailers handle their food waste.

    If as you say you work in the sector you would obviously know with the unprecedented demand on deliveries to retail outlets the combi's in question are in a short supply and are being turned around numerous times per day to meet that demand? So I would love to know where these combi's are sitting for up to a week!

    Don't expect anything from life, just be grateful to be alive.



  • #189
    Garfin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 165 ✭✭Garfin


    odyssey06 wrote: »
    Not sure what any of that has to do with coronavirus so all I will say is that if you have evidence of about rodent activity in one of Ireland's supermarkets you should report it to the Food Safety authority.

    Its not related directly to coronavirus but it happens to coincide with it, we are trying to protect public health with restrictions this practice of handling food waste in this way increases the risk to food safety and public health. I will be reporting to the FSAI.


  • #190
    Garfin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 165 ✭✭Garfin


    con747 wrote: »
    If as you say you work in the sector you would obviously know with the unprecedented demand on deliveries to retail outlets the combi's in question are in a short supply and are being turned around numerous times per day to meet that demand? So I would love to know where these combi's are sitting for up to a week!

    In the stores with the waste in them, drivers instructed to collect them once a week.


  • #191
    con747
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,373 ✭✭✭con747


    Garfin wrote: »
    In the stores with the waste in them, drivers instructed to collect them once a week.

    I'm afraid you have provided no proof to this so I will disengage and let you report away.

    Don't expect anything from life, just be grateful to be alive.



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  • #192
    Garfin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 165 ✭✭Garfin


    con747 wrote: »
    I'm afraid you have provided no proof to this so I will disengage and let you report away.
    Thats why I linked the article that describes the practice, you wont see any Irish media reporting on this because they wont bite the hand that feeds, Tesco advertising spend ensures that.

    I will report it to the relevant authorities and we will see if they have the appetite to sanction to them, I won't be holding my breath, the irony is they will probably use the unprecedented demand to justify it!


  • #193
    RiseAbove4
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 77 ✭✭RiseAbove4


    Any sign of Tescos sorting their 2 week backlog and taking on some more drivers?

    Or Supervalu?

    Or even other major chains like Centra and Spar starting deliveries? I realise they’re franchises but if they buy from the same wholesalers they can work together on this


    Haven’t half an hour to read another hugely long thread to find out and need to organise a weekly big shop for my parents to stop them going food shopping so much


  • #194
    con747
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,373 ✭✭✭con747


    RiseAbove4 wrote: »
    Any sign of Tescos sorting their 2 week backlog and taking on some more drivers?

    Or Supervalu?

    Or even other major chains like Centra and Spar starting deliveries? I realise they’re franchises but if they buy from the same wholesalers they can work together on this


    Haven’t half an hour to read another hugely long thread to find out and need to organise a weekly big shop for my parents to stop them going food shopping so much

    Most of the major supermarket chains that deliver are actively recruiting staff in all positions including extra delivery drivers. It can't be done overnight though i'm afraid.

    Don't expect anything from life, just be grateful to be alive.



  • #195
    Garfin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 165 ✭✭Garfin


    RiseAbove4 wrote: »
    Any sign of Tescos sorting their 2 week backlog and taking on some more drivers?

    Or Supervalu?

    Or even other major chains like Centra and Spar starting deliveries? I realise they’re franchises but if they buy from the same wholesalers they can work together on this


    Haven’t half an hour to read another hugely long thread to find out and need to organise a weekly big shop for my parents to stop them going food shopping so much

    Centra and Supervalu are brands owned by Musgaves who supply the stores with the majority of their stock as part of the franchise deal.
    The stores are individually owned and the home deliveries would be handled locally by each store owner.
    They should be able to rent vans pretty quickly and take on drivers even if only on short term basis to handle the massive in demand for home delivery. Musgraves will probably be providing support to the store owners to scale up to service the demand.


  • #196
    [Deleted User]
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    AulWan wrote: »
    The usual excuse, claims of anti-social behaviour. Funny how the local SuperValu, who offers free delivery when you shop instore, or SuperValu online, doesn't seem to have the same problem. SuperValu are dear, though.

    Even if Tesco at least offered click and collect at their branches at the Square, Fonthill (which is huge) or Templeogue, it would be something.




    I'm sure that deliveries are profitable for them - if they aren't willing to do them due to anti social behaviour, then id be fairly confident it's a true statement from them.


    You need to get onto the gardai and council. Tesco aren't obliged to deliver to you. but if the local scum start getting hassle, then tesco might start delivering there again if its safer.


    Unfortunately its just another aspect of the scumbags wrecking their own communities, and the Gardai shrugging their shoulders to it with no interest in it at all. :(


  • #197
    Garfin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 165 ✭✭Garfin


    AulWan wrote: »
    The usual excuse, claims of anti-social behaviour. Funny how the local SuperValu, who offers free delivery when you shop instore, or SuperValu online, doesn't seem to have the same problem. SuperValu are dear, though.

    Even if Tesco at least offered click and collect at their branches at the Square, Fonthill (which is huge) or Templeogue, it would be something.

    They may be more on certain items but they are providing a great service and have good quality value lines.
    Supervalu and Centra stores are individually locally owned franchises employing local people and should be supported especially now.
    Musgraves that own the Centra and Supervalu brands and supply the stores are a family owned Irish company that source the majority of their food in this country from Irish farms and producers.


  • #198
    AulWan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,653 ✭✭✭AulWan


    Deleted User wrote: »
    You need to get onto the gardai and council. Tesco aren't obliged to deliver to you. but if the local scum start getting hassle, then tesco might start delivering there again if its safer.

    I think just about every local councillor and TD has gotten onto them over the last year. I think its widely known that deliveries are not profitable, so thats not the issue. And doesn't explain why supervalu's drivers don't seem to have the same issue.

    I know they're not obliged to deliver but when they're bragging online about free delivery for over 65s and "Now, more than ever, every little helps" while refusing to even provide Click and Collect in some areas, well, it strikes me ask fake and hypocritical, especially in the current times.


  • #199
    mags1962
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 395 ✭✭mags1962


    There is a reason Dunnes and the Germans don't do Internet Food Deliveries?
    Costs, you need the Software and Hardware to be able to Order, Pay, Pick and Deliver first, then you need the bodies to Pick, walk around the Store doing your shopping, sort for Transport, load to Vans that have Chilled and Frozen units, buy or lease the Vans, Insure the Vans, maintain the Vans and only then can you hope that you have Drivers ready to go when they are needed.
    The Margins on Grocery are not that great, unlike Drapery, and you still have all the Costs associated with a regular supermarket before you even think of Online.
    If you want to go the other way, Deliveries from a Black site where no regular shopping is done, and it's all Picked by Automated Robots then the initial upfront Costs are massive and it also means a lot of Cash tied up in Stock in dual locations.
    It'a not just as simple as hiring a few more drivers and vans.

    Lastly, if you don't like the service you are getting from your shop well why not just find a different one that does provide the service you are looking for? And don't get me started on the cost of food from different shop because the same reasoning applies, and do some research while you are at it because generally they are all relatively the same.


  • #200
    AulWan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,653 ✭✭✭AulWan


    Garfin wrote: »
    They may be more on certain items but they are providing a great service and have good quality value lines.
    Supervalu and Centra stores are individually locally owned franchises employing local people and should be supported especially now.
    Musgraves that own the Centra and Supervalu brands and supply the stores are a family owned Irish company that source the majority of their food in this country from Irish farms and producers.
    I use SuperValu click and collect occasionally when they have certain offers on, and have SuperValu twice in the last ten days, once for myself (click and collect) and once for my parents (delivery). But I do find them signifcantly more expensive. I wouldn't use them for my regular big shops, I prefer Aldi.

    My local Centra is good, but I'd never go in for a full shop there either. At most I go in for milk or fresh bread during the week, and maybe the deli counter for a quick lunch.


  • #201
    Beasty
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    I was in Tesco the other day, M&S yesterday. No queues, very few empty shelves, not busy at all. It would appear that there is often a rush early in the day, but I suspect leaving shopping until later in the day is less stressful and indeed far less risky given the lower numbers around

    Yes they will stock the shelves overnight, but also keep on top of most areas throughout the day


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  • #202
    Breakerz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 50 ✭✭Breakerz


    Beasty wrote: »
    I was in Tesco the other day, M&S yesterday. No queues, very few empty shelves, not busy at all. It would appear that there is often a rush early in the day, but I suspect leaving shopping until later in the day is less stressful and indeed far less risky given the lower numbers around

    Yes they will stock the shelves overnight, but also keep on top of most areas throughout the day

    I've had the same experience. Between 9-13 the shops are all full with huge queues and people blocking aisles trying to maintain social distancing. I would say that this kind of social distancing creates more problems than is solving. I was also shocked to see the majority of people out early were elderly with trollies full of stuff prepping for doomsday.


  • #203
    Hamsterchops
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    I haven't been to the supermarket for over a week now, but last time I went shopping people were filling their trolleys with vast quantities of toilet paper :confused:

    Are they still doing that?


  • #204
    phill106
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    Hamsterchops wrote: »
    I haven't been to the supermarket for over a week now, but last time I went shopping people were filling their trolleys with vast quantities of toilet paper :confused:

    Are they still doing that?

    No the toilet paper seems to be gone when i was shopping yesterday in aldi.


  • #205
    Harry Palmr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    No eggs again in Lidl this morning, albeit that was 9 AM


  • #206
    Sarn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,137 ✭✭✭Sarn


    Our local Tesco had a large queue outside it yesterday at 2 pm as they were enforcing social distancing. Thankfully I was only passing. My wife went up to the Dunnes at 7 pm and again there was a short queue, with the new rules took about 20 min to get in. By the time she got in and out the queue was at least an hour long.


  • #207
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    A decent number in Lidl with no queues outside, well-stocked and lines all over the floor. People well-behaved and one woman giving me at least 5m as she went up and down the store! A lot more gloves on show , all a bit pointless as a nurse said to me. All it takes is for you to touch your face and ...


  • #208
    odyssey06
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,834 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Some context on the toilet roll bulk buying:
    - In Australia people were stocking up as their toilet roll is produced in China, where factories were shutting down for a period.
    - Upset stomach is a symptom of the virus in 10% of cases
    - If you have to self-isolate, or even work from home for weeks you are gonna use a lot more toilet roll than if you are in work 9-5 monday to friday.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • #209
    ThewhiteJesus
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,714 ✭✭✭ThewhiteJesus


    Tempers are beginning to show in the shops ect it could turn nasty, either physical violence or looting or both


  • #210
    niallo32
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    Tesco in Clondalkin village had long queue's outside yesterday afternoon, security not monitoring so arguments were breaking out when people were trying to skip the queue.

    Once inside, it was quiet and till queue's were short.


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  • #211
    Queasy Tadpole
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 219 ✭✭Queasy Tadpole


    Where is everyone getting their eggs? I've been to a bunch of stores all over Dublin now and nothing. Haven't had an egg now in over two weeks.

    Do I need to be there with the clowns at 7am queuing up outside to have some eggs for breakfast?


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