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CoVid-19 Part IX - 785 cases ROI (3 deaths) 108 in NI (1 death) (20 March) *Read OP*

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  • #9422
    Cork Boy 53
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭Cork Boy 53


    fr336 wrote: »
    It's passed on mainly through air particles right? This sounds nuts but is there nothing we can do to break up those air particles? Like when you spray something in the same air does that have no affect? Is there a spray that could be invented?

    Even if there was such a spray all that would do is spread the virus particles further and make things far worse.


  • #9423
    Assetbacked
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,969 ✭✭✭Assetbacked


    careless sherpa wrote: »
    People should not have went to Cheltenham. Everyone knew how serious the situation was before the festival started. They were packed in and then their diesase riden carcasses were dispersed around the country

    The UK has let everyone carry on as normal the past few weeks. Considering our proximity to them and the amount of people that travel back and forth between the countries every day, we should have borders closed. I have seen people returning from London to do their work from home in Ireland in the past few days. This is irresponsible as well, Cheltenham gets too much attention to the ignorance of the fact the borders are open with a region implementing a different approach to us.


  • #9424
    amadangomor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭amadangomor


    PsychoPete wrote: »
    Except for shops I've seen very little social distancing, went to my usual walking spot this morning. Passed 3 groups of 5+ people walking directly beside each other likewise with anyone else I passed. People are morons

    Went for a walk and passed one or two people and we all gave each other a wide berth.

    Then driving back a group of 5/6 lads out getting ready to go fishing all standing about a foot apart having a chat. Gob****es


  • #9425
    Reckless Abandonment
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,544 ✭✭✭Reckless Abandonment


    Quantum Erasure wrote: »
    Next they'll be closing the cliffs,

    It might be time to bring in the roads...


  • #9426
    cj maxx
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,634 ✭✭✭✭cj maxx


    murphaph wrote: »
    Is there any indication that Ireland will close its borders, especially to the UK? I believe the UK is going to be one of the worst affected countries (densely populated, poorly handled) yet we have no restrictions on movement from this much larger country on our doorstep.
    It will need to be an island wide approach


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  • #9427
    dummy_crusher
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 114 ✭✭dummy_crusher


    Summer2020 wrote: »
    Even if 30,000 of those are positive tests it doesn’t really matter where it counts - the ICU and hospitals. The numbers hospitalised is what matters.

    Agreed, that's the critical number. As I've said a few times in the last while, I firmly believe that the criteria for going to a 'full lockdown' situation will be reaching a certain percentage of ICU beds being occupied. Let's all hope we don't get to that point...

    The last couple of days have been positive IMO and we may have gotten a little 'lucky' with the start we have gotten. Of course, it's very early days and we need to keep up (and some people improve) with what we're doing and hopefully see the effect of our measures in the weeks to come.


  • #9428
    Gooey Looey
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,297 ✭✭✭Gooey Looey


    Quantum Erasure wrote: »
    Next they'll be closing the cliffs,

    I drove from Galway to the cliffs of Moher once but they were closed...... During the foot and mouth outbreak


  • #9429
    otnomart
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,065 ✭✭✭otnomart


    Sittingpretty wrote: »
    Do these Irish people flocking to Glendalough and packing out coffee shops think the Italians/Spanish/French are joking?

    Are they that arrogant that they think it won’t be them or their family member alone in ICU with a breathing tent over their heads to equalise the pressure in their lungs or laid prone in a vain attempt to stimulate oxygenation of their blood?


    Sadly, there is a lot of the following going on in many people's heads right now.


    "It won't happen to us because:
    -we are have a younger population

    -we have a heathier population
    -we have a lower population density
    -we flee the nest and don't live with our elders

    -we respect the rules "


    the list goes on and on


  • #9430
    MipMap
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 435 ✭✭MipMap


    Mr.Crinklewood wrote: »
    ...with money raised through fines going to HSE....


    Excellent idea


  • #9431
    elperello
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,944 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    Cilldara_2000 wrote: »
    I have some small bit sympathy for the crowds at Glendalough etc. I live in a rural area. It's piss easy for me to get out in the fresh air and maintain social distancing. If I go for a walk on the road, I might meet a handful of people also out walking. Easy to go by them if they're going in the same direction, and if they're going in the opposite direction they're on the other side of the road anyway. Somebody stuck in an urban area had no idea the world and its mother was roaming around Wicklow yesterday when they set out. But obviously later arrivals shouldn't have bothered getting out of their cars and should have just turned around and gone elsewhere.

    Yes, it is good for people to get out in the fresh air.

    However as you say social distancing is the key.

    Don't go to popular spots for the moment.


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  • #9432
    Nermal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,836 ✭✭✭Nermal


    https://medium.com/wintoncentre/how-much-normal-risk-does-covid-represent-4539118e1196

    I will keep posting the sane, balanced articles I find here.

    They get lost amid panic responses asking for further lockdowns, closed borders and mentioning 10% fatality rates.

    Not to mention stories of deranged OCD types insulting our youth who have the temerity to be outside.


  • #9433
    pjohnson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,021 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Assetbacked wrote: »
    The UK has let everyone carry on as normal the past few weeks. Considering our proximity to them and the amount of people that travel back and forth between the countries every day, we should have borders closed. I have seen people returning from London to do their work from home in Ireland in the past few days. This is irresponsible as well, Cheltenham gets too much attention to the ignorance of the fact the borders are open with a region implementing a different approach to us.
    Cheltenham was like a fùcking concert not a workplace. Hygiene out the window. Or does your workplace feature pints and large crowds pushing around?


  • #9434
    Phoebas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,371 ✭✭✭Phoebas


    Sittingpretty wrote: »
    Do these Irish people flocking to Glendalough and packing out coffee shops think the Italians/Spanish/French are joking?
    I'd say that most people who are making individual decisions to get out for a few hours are being responsible enough, but the problem is that there are many more people making the same decision.

    I was out for a run yesterday - Clontarf promenade, Dollymount strand and St Anne's park - places that usually have heaps of space, all much busier than usual.
    blackcard wrote: »
    The best enforcement is going to be the court of public opinion
    Once that doesn't change into the mob.


  • #9435
    Kaisr Sose
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,688 ✭✭✭Kaisr Sose


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    And the percentage who actually have it out of that 40k will be quite small.

    Literally anyone with a cold is ringing a gp looking to be tested

    I had the flu yesterday but i am ok now types come to mind.

    The HSE has to test them, but its diverting thin resources away from those that actually have it and really need to be tested so contact tracing can begin.

    Some of this is fear and some will be the same people that run to A&E for every ailment.


  • #9436
    threeball
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,765 ✭✭✭threeball


    Cilldara_2000 wrote: »
    I have some small bit sympathy for the crowds at Glendalough etc. I live in a rural area. It's piss easy for me to get out in the fresh air and maintain social distancing. If I go for a walk on the road, I might meet a handful of people also out walking. Easy to go by them if they're going in the same direction, and if they're going in the opposite direction they're on the other side of the road anyway. Somebody stuck in an urban area had no idea the world and its mother was roaming around Wicklow yesterday when they set out. But obviously later arrivals shouldn't have bothered getting out of their cars and should have just turned around and gone elsewhere.

    Agree completely. Went to our local walking spot last Sunday. Normally 4 or 5 cars. The car park was full and they were parked all along the road too. We turned the car and went elsewhere. It doesn't take much common sense to see going further was a bad idea.


  • #9437
    Gooey Looey
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,297 ✭✭✭Gooey Looey


    People out there are seeing a fall in numbers and thinking things are fine. Just got off the phone with by dad it's the first thing he said


  • #9438
    amadangomor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭amadangomor


    otnomart wrote: »
    Sadly, there is a lot of the following going on in many people's heads right now.


    "It won't happen to us because:
    -we are have a younger population

    -we have a heathier population
    -we have a lower population density
    -we flee the nest and don't live with our elders

    -we respect the rules "


    the list goes on and on

    I'd say most of them are not the thinking type, more the selfish braindead sort.


  • #9439
    New Home
    Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 78,113 Mod ✭✭✭✭New Home


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Just to clarify, rest, OTC medication and fluids is very good advice for mild cases of COVID-19. Just because it's mild doesn't mean that you just don't do anything for the virus as if you.dont take precautions you could end up.in hospital from an AKI etc.
    Dangerous advice by the poster, really.


    Where did I say you didn't need any of those things or advised the poster in that respect? Antibiotics (for instance) aren't OTC, neither is saline for nebulisers (as I recently discovered). Not needing hospitalisation was what I wanted to stress.


  • #9440
    Corkgirl20
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 196 ✭✭Corkgirl20


    Mr.Crinklewood wrote: »
    ...with money raised through fines going to HSE....

    Great idea to bring in fines for unnecessary gatherings.
    I’ve seen photos from London today and I’m just glad I don’t live there. We need stricter rules or after a while people will think they can get away with stuff which is so unfair to the healthcare workers. My mum, a nurse only leaves the house to work, other than that the back garden is as far as she goes. So unfair that people are selfishly gathering for chats.


  • #9441
    threeball
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,765 ✭✭✭threeball


    Cilldara_2000 wrote: »
    I have some small bit sympathy for the crowds at Glendalough etc. I live in a rural area. It's piss easy for me to get out in the fresh air and maintain social distancing. If I go for a walk on the road, I might meet a handful of people also out walking. Easy to go by them if they're going in the same direction, and if they're going in the opposite direction they're on the other side of the road anyway. Somebody stuck in an urban area had no idea the world and its mother was roaming around Wicklow yesterday when they set out. But obviously later arrivals shouldn't have bothered getting out of their cars and should have just turned around and gone elsewhere.

    Agree completely. Went to our local walking spot last Sunday. Normally 4 or 5 cars. The car park was full and they were parked all along the road too. We turned the car and went elsewhere. It doesn't take much common sense to see going further was a bad idea.


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  • #9442
    Cork Boy 53
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭Cork Boy 53


    The HorsesMouth wrote: »
    Does that figure not include everyone in ICU including those without covid-19?

    No, 29 in ICU diagnosed with Covid 19.


  • #9443
    Discodog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,009 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    100% unfortunately no powers to fine people at the moment

    I thought that the Gardai have been given additional powers ?


  • #9444
    Assetbacked
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,969 ✭✭✭Assetbacked


    pjohnson wrote: »
    Cheltenham was like a fùcking concert not a workplace. Hygiene out the window. Or does your workplace feature pints and large crowds pushing around?

    How do you marry after work pints in packed pubs, packed tubes with commuters, other horse racing events etc with that view of Cheltenham as being mecca for covid19 spreading?


  • #9445
    pjohnson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,021 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Nermal wrote: »
    https://medium.com/wintoncentre/how-much-normal-risk-does-covid-represent-4539118e1196

    I will keep posting the sane, balanced articles I find here.

    They get lost amid panic responses asking for further lockdowns, closed borders and mentioning 10% fatality rates.

    Not to mention stories of deranged OCD types insulting our youth who have the temerity to be outside.

    Oooh another edgy type!


  • #9446
    otnomart
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,065 ✭✭✭otnomart


    Summer2020 wrote: »
    Even if 30,000 of those are positive tests it doesn’t really matter where it counts - the ICU and hospitals. The numbers hospitalised is what matters.
    Absolutely.
    This is why Countries can plan their hospital requirements - based on the numbers published by the Countries that were hit first.


  • #9447
    johnnyskeleton
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 14,567 Mod ✭✭✭✭johnnyskeleton


    yourdeadwright wrote: »
    I was down there yesterday but I went at first sunlight was leaving and all by 5 past 9 and there was barley a sole in the place at that stage, when I arrived I was the only one there and done a 2and a half hour walk and didn't pass a single person,

    Sole is a saltwater fish, so wouldn't be able to survive in Glendalough


  • #9448
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    cosanostra wrote: »
    So the new test sites havnt come on board yet
    19 now I believe but they did say it would take a little longer for all 32 to be up and running.


  • #9449
    Raconteuse
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,817 ✭✭✭Raconteuse


    Nermal wrote: »
    https://medium.com/wintoncentre/how-much-normal-risk-does-covid-represent-4539118e1196

    I will keep posting the sane, balanced articles I find here.

    They get lost amid panic responses asking for further lockdowns, closed borders and mentioning 10% fatality rates.

    Not to mention stories of deranged OCD types insulting our youth who have the temerity to be outside.
    Standing close to each other. Not being outside.

    Why is this so hard to accept? :confused:

    It's the deranged ones who are rejecting social distancing/self isolation pleas. More interested in going on about how it's government repression etc.

    Also, don't post articles that are just opinions, please. They're all as skewed as each other, in whatever direction the writer prefers/you prefer.


  • #9450
    Loafing Oaf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,819 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    johnnyskeleton wrote: »
    Sole is a saltwater fish, so wouldn't be able to survive in Glendalough

    Maybe they were making poetic reference to the feet of walkers:P


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  • #9451
    Corkgirl20
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 196 ✭✭Corkgirl20


    Anybody know if there’s word on school returns dates yet. I know we were told Monday March 30th. But surely that will be extended a week meaning that it will run into the 2 week off the kids will have anyway for Easter.
    I fear if schools open parents will think sure they’re on top of other kids in school everyday anyway may as well go ahead with that birthday party/play date etc.

    I know in my classroom I wouldn’t have enough desks or space to separate children and in the yard it’s impossible to keep them off of each other.
    Also a lot of my kids come to school with a sniffle, I’d probably have to send every kid with a sniffle home because the symptoms of the virus for kids can be mild.


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