CoVid-19 Part IX - 785 cases ROI (3 deaths) 108 in NI (1 death) (20 March) Read OP

fritzelly · 22-03-2020 03:51AM

NIMAN wrote: »

Again from the BBC website, in a piece about stricter measures from Italy and Spain:

"In a news conference on Saturday night, Spain's Prime Minister Pedro Sánchez warned "the worst is yet to come" and that "very difficult days lay ahead".

The government has issued a lockdown for some 46 million people who are only allowed to leave their homes for essential work, food shopping, medical reasons or to walk the dog.".

That's like a joke. Walk the f'ing dog? Come on, you're either being serious about lockdowns or you're not.

You missed the video of someone taking a "toy" dog for a walk

MrMusician18 · 22-03-2020 03:52AM

marno21 wrote: »

I wouldn't be putting too much belief into the fatality rates we are seeing from any country.

Today Italy has 53,578 confirmed cases and 4,825 case deaths. This is a mortality rate of 9%. However, the death figure we are using here is a function of the laboratory confirmed cases, which is not a conclusive figure. The real infection figure in Italy is a large multiple of the 53,578 confirmed cases, however there simply isn't the resources to test every single patient every single day. Nor should they be given the pressure they are under. It's impossible to get a proper mortality figure (if ever with this volume of cases) given the circumstances and if anything repeating these figures as cause for concern is simply misleading.

The only closed system we've seen a mortality rate from so far is the Diamond Princess. From the Diamond Princess we had 712 cases and 9 deaths (with 567 confirmed recoveries). That yields a death rate of 1.26%, which is a far more reliable indicator than any country to date. Given there being 136 remaining open cases we could see this figure rise - or it could be a case that resources aren't being concentrated on closing cases.

When the antibody tests become available we'll get a truer figure into the rates of infection, and true population mortality rate. Until then, it's anybody's guess.

That's only the death rate of those fit enough to go on a cruise. The other issue with it is that it doesn't reflect the spread of ages to find in a typical country - cruisers tend to be older.

There are a lot of issues with extrapolating from the Diamond Princess

marno21 · 22-03-2020 04:10AM

MrMusician18 wrote: »

That's only the death rate of those fit enough to go on a cruise. The other issue with it is that it doesn't reflect the spread of ages to find in a typical country - cruisers tend to be older.

There are a lot of issues with extrapolating from the Diamond Princess

Very fair point, however there's a balance between the skewed demographics towards older people to a certain degree cancelling out the lack of lesser able passengers.

Indeed there are lots of issues with the Diamond Princess data as you say - however, it's the only source of data so far where a large volume of the population has been tested vs trying to extrapolate from country data.

Quantum Erasure · 22-03-2020 04:24AM

Monkeynut wrote: »

They'll be on Jobpath soon.

Jobpath: Previous occupation?

Buglar: Burglar!

Jobpath: Okay We have a opening for Burger King.

McDonalds, surely?

windy shepard henderson · 22-03-2020 04:26AM

NIMAN wrote: »

Again from the BBC website, in a piece about stricter measures from Italy and Spain:

"In a news conference on Saturday night, Spain's Prime Minister Pedro Sánchez warned "the worst is yet to come" and that "very difficult days lay ahead".

The government has issued a lockdown for some 46 million people who are only allowed to leave their homes for essential work, food shopping, medical reasons or to walk the dog.".

That's like a joke. Walk the f'ing dog? Come on, you're either being serious about lockdowns or you're not.

so the dog goes to the toilet in the house . bare in mind most people in both spain and italy live in apartment blocks which is a major factor in the serious numbers of infections they have to deal with

joeguevara · 22-03-2020 04:38AM

I saw a meme that without asking for a source or evidence or expert opinion has to be taken as what could happen. It says this is our most important week. It is the week that the most infected people without knowing will cause the spread to explode. Please stay at home if you have the privilege to do so.

But also people are beginning to get instruction apathy and I see them roll eyes when people try and tell them to be vigilant. Funny things with an important message in the background may hit him more. I saw one about ten minutes ago that i think will resonate. Micky Flanagan, the cheeky cockney comedian has a sketch about the difference between out, going out and going out out.

https://youtu.be/0jP_brwVyvc

The clever meme has the tagline ‘You can go out, but you can’t go out out. It’s already been shared by way more people than the other one.

solidasarock · 22-03-2020 04:57AM

NIMAN wrote: »

This BBC link shows all cases and deaths

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-51235105

Interesting that San Marino appears to have the highest % death toll?

Nearly 14%

The Diamond Princess cruise ship has its own spot on a list of countries.

And Ireland is STILL lower then it.

Jasus. Who cursed that boat?

windy shepard henderson · 22-03-2020 05:11AM

solidasarock wrote: »

The Diamond Princess cruise ship has its own spot on a list of countries.

And Ireland is STILL lower then it.

Jasus. Who cursed that boat?

basically social distancing is much easier in a country then it is in a ship , the more people in one area the more chance of a spread

population · 22-03-2020 05:23AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVNlFlkJZyw

Is there logic to what Dave Asprey (biohacker chap) is saying in this video? I thought this was an optimistic pandemic math video but I feel I am missing something and he's not giving the correct picture.

population · 22-03-2020 05:29AM

trumptheman wrote: »

Hes a ****ing idiot, why do people listen to this nonsense?

Do you enter fake competitions on facebook by any chance?

Dear oh dear. No need to get aggressive.

trumptheman · 22-03-2020 05:30AM

population wrote: »

Dear oh dear. No need to get aggressive.

Apologies, didn't mean to be but so much fake nonsense been spouted on the internet it really annoys me!

Blazer · 22-03-2020 05:42AM

trumptheman wrote: »

Apologies, didn't mean to be but so much fake nonsense been spouted on the internet it really annoys me!

man all the bull**** out of Trump's mouth must really piss you off then.

population · 22-03-2020 05:47AM

trumptheman wrote: »

Apologies, didn't mean to be but so much fake nonsense been spouted on the internet it really annoys me!

Accepted thanks. As I said the video seemed to make sense mathematically but I am sure he's misrepresenting something and I was just curious if someone who is better with numbers than I am could spot it.

Tony EH · 22-03-2020 06:15AM

trumptheman wrote: »

Apologies, didn't mean to be but so much fake nonsense been spouted on the internet it really annoys me!

We'll take it that your username is...ironic...then. :pac:

trumptheman · 22-03-2020 06:22AM

Tony EH wrote: »

We'll take it that your username is...ironic...then. :pac:

it is - And sorry again to the other poster, someone hopefully will answer. Myself and Melania had a few bottles of wine tonight.

Quantum Erasure · 22-03-2020 06:48AM

will we break 1,000 tomorrow? 28% increase would get us there, which is roughly what we've been trending on over the last week

old_aussie · 22-03-2020 06:49AM

GEEEEEEZZZZ

A 39-year-old woman has suddenly died before her coronavirus test results were ready.

Natasha Ott, from New Orleans, died overnight after coming down with a cold less than two weeks ago, her long-term partner Josh Anderson has said.

Mr Anderson wrote on Facebook that his girlfriend, a social worker, had initially passed on being tested for the deadly virus as she was considered “low-risk” by her employer, Crescent Care, a medical clinic in New Orleans.

But after she didn’t get any better, Ms Ott was tested on Monday this week. She was found dead in her kitchen yesterday not long after telling Mr Anderson she “felt something in (her) lungs”.

https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/woman-39-dies-with-coronavirus-symptoms-before-test-results-return/news-story/df49b9627f4c0e67864c118373e59655

Mushy · 22-03-2020 06:51AM

Quantum Erasure wrote: »

will we break 1,000 tomorrow? 28% increase would get us there, which is roughly what we've been trending on over the last week

I think itll be short of it now. New cases announced will likely be tested earlier in week, before the influx that apparently arrived later in week.

Saw a thing on Reddit, seemingly UK have exact same death number as Italy in timeframe since first death. Going exactly 14 days behind them. Incredible stupidity!

ceadaoin. · 22-03-2020 07:09AM

One thing I think the US has going for it is that each state has the power to enforce their own lockdown or restrictions if they so wish, and they are doing so. 75 million people are under some form of restrictions right now. They each have their own national guard which can be activated to help with medical care, enforce curfews etc. They dont need to wait for trump to do any of this.

trumptheman · 22-03-2020 07:35AM

ceadaoin. wrote: »

One thing I think the US has going for it is that each state has the power to enforce their own lockdown or restrictions if they so wish, and they are doing so. 75 million people are under some form of restrictions right now. They each have their own national guard which can be activated to help with medical care, enforce curfews etc. They dont need to wait for trump to do any of this.

I'm one of them, living in Illinois. Just pharmacies, Petrol stations and supermarkets open.

The lockdown only came in today so will see how it goes. But pubs and restraunts have been closed for a week allready.

I won't really know the full extent how it will effect work till Monday Morning. I'm working from home regardless last two weeks.

No-Where near the level of National Gaurd levels, curfew and stuff yet though.

Forgot to mention all parks closed as well. Non essential businesses are meant to shut but don't think any factories will be affected, regardless of what they produce.

ceadaoin. · 22-03-2020 08:00AM

trumptheman wrote: »

I'm one of them, living in Illinois. Just pharmacies, Petrol stations and supermarkets open.

The lockdown only came in today so will see how it goes. But pubs and restraunts have been closed for a week allready.

I won't really know the full extent how it will effect work till Monday Morning. I'm working from home regardless last two weeks.

No-Where near the level of National Gaurd levels, curfew and stuff yet though.

Forgot to mention all parks closed as well. Non essential businesses are meant to shut but don't think any factories will be affected, regardless of what they produce.

Yeah me too. Vegas here. I hope it wont get to the point of the national guard and enforced curfews. I haven't needed to go out since they announced the closures of non essential businesses so I dont know how it's going really except they are now having to use the police to enforce it in some cases. Some people still dont get it.

The weirdest thing is the strip being closed. I feel like taking a drive down there just to see it empty and closed.

Away With The Fairies · 22-03-2020 08:05AM

ceadaoin. wrote: »

Yeah me too. Vegas here. I hope it wont get to the point of the national guard and enforced curfews. I haven't needed to go out since they announced the closures of non essential businesses so I dont know how it's going really except they are now having to use the police to enforce it on some cases. Some people still dont get it.

The weirdest thing is the strip being closed. I feel like taking a drive down there just to see it empty and closed.

Take a picture of a deserted Vegas. Would love to see a quiet Vegas.

trumptheman · 22-03-2020 08:13AM

ceadaoin. wrote: »

Yeah me too. Vegas here. I hope it wont get to the point of the national guard and enforced curfews. I haven't needed to go out since they announced the closures of non essential businesses so I dont know how it's going really except they are now having to use the police to enforce it on some cases. Some people still dont get it.

The weirdest thing is the strip being closed. I feel like taking a drive down there just to see it empty and closed.

I was only there in January for the first time for five days but my God what a place. It's crazy.

I can't really see a full locktime happening until things get to Italy numbers. Be worse now with people losing their jobs but the Americans are ruthless with regards letting people go. There is no redundancy and they can let people go with a snap of a finger with no repurcissions. The complete opposite to Ireland.

Poverty hear is mental but not sure what Trump has in plans for that.

If they decide to stop paying me here I'll probably head back to the company in Ireland to be honest.

lawred2 · 22-03-2020 08:13AM

BLIZZARD7 wrote: »

Mortality rate in Italy is now 9%...

4.26% globally

4.26% of those tested having shown with symptoms

ceadaoin. · 22-03-2020 08:15AM

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

Take a picture of a deserted Vegas. Would love to see a quiet Vegas.

Here are some. I just hope this is over soon, otherwise this town is royally ****ed.

https://m.imgur.com/0NsuvIr
https://m.imgur.com/gallery/ab4zPLO
https://i.redd.it/713xc0jmtvn41.jpg

ceadaoin. · 22-03-2020 08:15AM

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

Take a picture of a deserted Vegas. Would love to see a quiet Vegas.

Here are some. I just hope this is over soon, otherwise this town is royally ****ed.

https://m.imgur.com/0NsuvIr
https://m.imgur.com/gallery/ab4zPLO
https://i.redd.it/713xc0jmtvn41.jpg

(Some doors are boarded up because they literally have no locks, they arent supposed to be closed. Ever)

Flippyfloppy · 22-03-2020 08:16AM

A lot of supermarkets are installing plexiglass to help employees. Am amazing step.

However am I the only one who thinks they could get very dirty throughout the day?

Sofa King Great · 22-03-2020 08:22AM

Flippyfloppy wrote: »

A lot of supermarkets are installing plexiglass to help employees. Am amazing step.

However am I the only one who thinks they could get very dirty throughout the day?

The alternative is all that dirt lands on the person serving you

lawred2 · 22-03-2020 08:22AM

Midfield Major wrote: »

I’m not sure why people are so hard on Trumpy when it’s obvious State leaders are responsible for measures. Usual Trumpy haters gonna hate I guess

Really? Not sure no?

trumptheman · 22-03-2020 08:23AM

Midfield Major wrote: »

I’m not sure why people are so hard on Trumpy when it’s obvious State leaders are responsible for measures. Usual Trumpy haters gonna hate I guess

Each state is like a separate country. It's like the EU telling us what to do.

But yes he has the power to shut them all down just like the E.U.

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