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CoVid-19 Part IX - 785 cases ROI (3 deaths) 108 in NI (1 death) (20 March) *Read OP*

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45


    If the numbers are high, I don’t see people complaining that they’re not right.
    It’s just really odd behaviour in here.

    It doesn’t matter if there is a backlog.

    We get 1 set of figures each day. And it’s gone down considerably 2 days in a row. If the trend was to continue over the next few days, that will be wonderful news.

    You said this was a fetish for some people.

    This is not fun for anybody everything is shut 250'000 people out of work going into work is risky and even then our jobs may be at risk.

    I would love for this thing to be beaten.

    Two days results is far from enough to base anything on I am looking at Italy Iran and Spain.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,732 ✭✭✭scamalert


    Yes it matters when the tests were done. People tested last week, got infected two weeks before that. So spreading in that two week period.
    thats BS how would you know when they did get infected ? if each case is treated that if person is positive and that they might gotten it recently then thats massive bollocks, as most tested would have to fall under recovering if it doesnt complicate, yet none of stats project that.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 8,830 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sierra Oscar


    My brother is waiting since last Saturday for a test, he’s finally getting one on Monday...we are at least a week behind (on average) with these figures

    There is a bottleneck in terms of available testing which is being alleviated now with a massive ramping up in the number of testing facilities.

    However there is a serious issue with our capacity to actually analyze the tests. Educational labs are being brought on board to help increase capacity, but there is a real possibility that there is a 'ceiling' to our capacity at the moment. There is not only a fairly large backlog of people awaiting testing, but also people awaiting their results. It's taking up to a week for some people. Keep in mind some tests are being prioritized for healthcare workers and other front line emergency service staff.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92,394 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Is there still a lot waiting on tests, surely with more test centres and kits, the waiting time would reduce greatly to 24 to 48 hours


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,762 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    There is more than one lab and Saturday is not the same as a normal day.

    Again utter crap, every day is a normal day during this.

    The suggestion that they are reducing staffing levels is bonkers. Again I know someone invovled in the labs. They literally work a shift go home sleep and go back in again, that's every day. Nobody is reducing at the weekend


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,585 ✭✭✭kingshankly


    For those saying 102 is good that it's a drop, it's possible less samples were tested today as it's a weekend.

    Do you think today’s tested are getting their results today 🙈🙈


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,220 ✭✭✭cameramonkey


    Paddy cosgrove to put it mildly is nothing but a loud mouth who threw the toys out of the pram when the irish government wouldn't bow to his request to spend millions on his events in the country. The man is an attention seeking gob****e


    What do you disagree with in his piece?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,661 ✭✭✭Duke of Url


    MipMap wrote: »
    They do that sort of thing whether there is a Pandemic or Not!

    Germany and Israel are doing the same.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    No, it takes a while to get additional testing facilities up and running. People would be complaining if they weren’t accurate due to being rushed into operation.
    There will be complaints when it has passed as to why we haven't had a case in x amount of time!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,524 ✭✭✭Gynoid


    There are plenty of logical reasons to explain why people might express surprise at our numbers and I would say that disappointment would be really far down any list and reserved only for psychopaths. It is a strong thing to accuse another of, but very like the panic porn accusations in the earliest threads.

    Reasons someone might be surprised include that many know of people who have been waiting quite a while for their test, we know that test supplies were dwindling and the testers were awaiting restocking of 35,000. We can some of us think that 35,000 tests arriving (arrived) this week to be followed by 20,000 the next week does not sound entirely adequate for requirements. We could look at European trajectories and wonder how we seem to be flattening while they curve in spite of reasonably similar social restrictions.
    One could be scientifically in error wondering about those things but it does not a monster make.

    Maybe, and hopefully, we are simply doing exceptionally, almost miraculously well.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭owlbethere


    When you think of it, it was the perfect environment to introduce that spark to. A nursing home with probably 100-300 residents and all the staff. Then the kicker, all the residents family and friends visiting in and out bringing it with it them, as well as staff

    My God they hasn't a chance really :(

    That lady has colleagues aged 45/50 years old in ICU ☹️


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,215 ✭✭✭ParkRunner


    Is there a rough idea out there how many results are pending here?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,027 ✭✭✭lbj666


    I don’t care about the electorate. I didn’t vote FG. But the temporary Government and HSE are doing a good job.

    Same here, it's still going to be thankless. No matter what happens good or bad public healthwise the detractors will be out in a few months spinning it whatever way it suits. It would take an absolute catastrophy in UK or Europe and not here for them to look good in the usual detractors eyes .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 646 ✭✭✭john_doe.


    https://www.flightradar24.com/

    Just curious why so many flight around Europe in middle of a pandemic !
    Am missing something here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 801 ✭✭✭frillyleaf


    When you think of it, it was the perfect environment to introduce that spark to. A nursing home with probably 100-300 residents and all the staff. Then the kicker, all the residents family and friends visiting in and out bringing it with it them, as well as staff

    My God they hasn't a chance really :(

    Deaths at nursing homes and residents homes aren’t being counted towards the official numbers according to an Italian doctor on sky news which means the cases could be even higher than being recorded.

    I was very saddened to see this has now spreading Africa. The people living there simply can’t keep social distance and don’t have the sanitation that we do due to living in poverty we can’t even comprehend.

    I think that these countries will suffer the most with this. I feel very fortunate to live in a developed country and hope developing countries are given the help they need. They seem to be responding to it very aggressively which is good to see


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,762 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    Is there still a lot waiting on tests, surely with more test centres and kits, the waiting time would reduce greatly to 24 to 48 hours

    More coming online in different parts of the country. Just takes time to get everywhere set up, but yes there should be a massive reduction when more and more test centres and labs come online


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,097 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    Am I the only one who thinks just hitting 10k tested in Ireland now is appalling? After what,8 weeks?

    Should we not be approaching the point where testing is beside the point? I mean the main point of testing is to identify people with the virus so they can self-isolate, but shouldn't most people be self-isolating as far as possible already?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,605 ✭✭✭2ndcoming


    Re testing getting the swab is only half of it. It has to be sent to a lab and the virus activated with a buffer to expose itself.

    On a positive note they have done more processing in the past 3 days than the previous weeks combined so the numbers are encouraging.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,661 ✭✭✭Duke of Url




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92,394 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    is_that_so wrote: »
    Ireland are doing really crap in the CV league, we need to step up, two bad days in a row!:D

    This is one league I hope we get relegated


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 64 ✭✭Rickytumtum


    If you're bad, do you have to wait for a positive to be brought to hospital? A week is too long.

    To this and the other replies - he has been self isolating for about ten days. He couldn’t get tested first time around because he hadn’t been in contact with confirmed case. Then the criteria changed, so his GP has been trying since last Saturday. He didn’t feel good at all last week, feeling much better now but definitely not back to 100%.

    Point is, if he has been in contact with people before self isolating, the guts of two weeks will have passed from that time and the time he gets results. The ship has sailed there. And that’s just one person.

    Testing quickly is the absolute key and it is not being done fast enough.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,878 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    frillyleaf wrote: »
    Good point, they may not have results for some of them . Is that what you mean?

    Each person may have 3 or 4 tests or more

    Edit
    Unless they are only counting a single test per person...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,698 ✭✭✭munsterlegend


    Again utter crap, every day is a normal day during this.

    The suggestion that they are reducing staffing levels is bonkers. Again I know someone invovled in the labs. They literally work a shift go home sleep and go back in again, that's every day. Nobody is reducing at the weekend

    I know someone as well. If numbers are of a similar level to today or lower on Tuesday/Wednesday I’ll be delighted but unfortunately I fear they won’t be.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,312 ✭✭✭jackboy


    It seems very odd with more testing that numbers are going down. I would wait until Tuesday/Wednesday and see what numbers are like then.

    I presume that the lab testers are not working 12 hours a day 7 days a week. So, there must be loads of new staff in the labs. These will not nearly be as efficient as the experienced staff, for a while anyway.

    Also, if they are being properly trained by experienced staff, that will reduce efficiency of the experienced staff also.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,477 ✭✭✭Iscreamkone


    It seems that there is a huge reduction in air pollution in China. This is due to the reduction in industrial output because of the cutbacks due to the outbreak.
    It seems that over 1,000 people die in Ireland per annum directly as a result of air pollution.
    Is it possible that the lives we save from reducing our air pollution will be more than the lives lost due to the coronavirus?
    Could the outbreak of the coronavirus be actually saving lives worldwide?
    Also, I wonder are road deaths down during this time?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,623 ✭✭✭NinjaTruncs


    Do you think today’s tested are getting their results today 🙈🙈
    No, what I think is there were less samples tested today compared to yesterday and that's why the number of positive tests is lower today.

    4.3kWp South facing PV System. South Dublin



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,687 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    Am I the only one who thinks just hitting 10k tested in Ireland now is appalling? After what,8 weeks?

    No, its only escalated in the last 4 weeks, if even that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,220 ✭✭✭cameramonkey


    frillyleaf wrote: »
    Good point, they may not have results for some of them . Is that what you mean?


    Some test may not be through the system yet and some people may have been tested more than once, for example if you are recovering they may need to test you several times before you are deemed safe from infecting others.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 445 ✭✭iwillyeah1234


    Germany and Israel are doing the same.

    And South Korea.

    South Korea ( and the Chinese did too , to be fair) - they publish the contact tracing to social media. Both the Chinese and South Korean governments even have apps that the public can use to see the contact trace geographically. Hardcore stuff , but it sure helps with avoidance and the public generally becoming more aware of the gravity of the situation.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45


    It seems that there is a huge reduction in air pollution in China. This is due to the reduction in industrial output because of the cutbacks due to the outbreak.
    It seems that over 1,000 people die in Ireland per annum directly as a result of air pollution.
    Is it possible that the lives we save from reducing our air pollution will be more than the lives lost due to the coronavirus?
    Could the outbreak of the coronavirus be actually saving lives worldwide?
    Also, I wonder are road deaths down during this time?

    WTF Jesus Christ.


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