CoVid-19 Part IX - 785 cases ROI (3 deaths) 108 in NI (1 death) (20 March) Read OP

moonlighting_1 · 21-03-2020 05:50PM

233 deaths confirmed so far in the UK
Epic **** show is going to unfold over the coming days.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NxLZ39EIEc

humberklog · 21-03-2020 05:51PM

Shn99 wrote: »

Older population

That's got to go some way to explaining it however the mortality figures are way higher than other countries. I don't have the maths but I wonder how the percentage of Italian elderly population and their mortality rate compares to say Spanish/French/Swiss (I cite these as climate, genetics and health service wouldn't be a million miles apart).

Is there the possibility that there's something else effecting the Italians such as a strong MRSA strain in the hospitals or some other bacteria that has been lying benign within the Italians?

dor83 · 21-03-2020 05:51PM

Bigboldworld wrote: »

Can anyone explain why Italy’s death rate is completely sky rocketing, devastating for them, why on earth with the restrictions in place is the death rate still rising astronomically? What is it that is making Italy so susceptible to this virus

Like others have said, older population combined with overwhelmed health service and it takes time to get bad enough to kill someone so the death rates will be going up for weeks after the lockdown was enacted, people who are dying now will have caught it weeks ago.

V8 Interceptor · 21-03-2020 05:51PM

https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1241300004100243456

macnug · 21-03-2020 05:52PM

MipMap wrote: »

Italy has a population about 13 times that of Ireland.

If we reach the same point as Italy this morning (4,032 deaths) the
equivalent would be 310 deaths in Ireland.

I am sure we would be concerned about that number but there would still be people who would say that it is no the end of the world and that just 2 years road deaths and flu kills more and I still have to walk the dog etc.,

I am just hoping this will turn around in Italy soon. If not the numbers we see in a weeks time will make today's look like peanuts.

It doesnt sound too bad when you say it like that but imagine the panic when we get to ~50 deaths a day.

TheValeyard · 21-03-2020 05:53PM

moonlighting_1 wrote: »

233 deaths confirmed so far in the UK
Epic **** show is going to unfold over the coming days.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NxLZ39EIEc

I predict chaos over there. The likes of which have not been seen since 2011or even the '91 or' 81 riots

caveat emptor · 21-03-2020 05:53PM

KathleenGrant wrote: »

E VOILA is not French
Et Voilà is.

nice addition to the public record. I don't speak French, I was trying to empathise with the poster who can't translate by going outside my comfort zone. Thanks for teaching me something I couldn't care about. Do please address the point Keep trying :pac:

BorneTobyWilde · 21-03-2020 05:54PM

fr336 wrote: »

The scariest thing in Italy is they locked down places in Lombardy very early on. Whereas the rest of us are still arsing about on bloody social distancing and a few closures. FFS Italy is going to be everyone! It is now too late.

The constant stream of flights from Paris, London, Zurich, Lisbon so on and on and on are a worry also. This is how the virus spread worldwide, surely the biggest weapon against the virus is to cut off it's Free Air Miles

caveat emptor · 21-03-2020 05:55PM

trapp wrote: »

It's natural to hope and be optimistic.

Just because something happens in one place doesn't mean it will repeat elsewhere.

If you're such an expert in epidemics and pandemics why are you posting on here instead of working with the WHO or HSE.

Fact is you're just predicting or guessing, you don't know.

I'm aware of the cognitive bias that we all possess. Normalcy bias. I like hope but it must be real hope and not tainted by horse ****.

Dyr · 21-03-2020 05:56PM

moonlighting_1 wrote: »

233 deaths confirmed so far in the UK
Epic **** show is going to unfold over the coming days.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NxLZ39EIEc

Someone enlighten me, are the UK on the same path as Italy are at this stage? I've seen claims they are at the same figures as Italy were at the that stage of the outbreak in Italy.

Cork Boy 53 · 21-03-2020 05:56PM

TheValeyard wrote: »

I predict chaos over there. The likes of which have not been seen since 2011or even the '91 or' 81 riots

Yes and likely the end of Johnson as PM. Silver lining and all that.

Humberto Salazar · 21-03-2020 05:56PM

And no surprise, John Bolton has blamed China for all this, and that "the world must hold them accountable". Does anyone ever muzzle this loose cannon?

moonlighting_1 · 21-03-2020 05:56PM

Italy reports another 793 deaths in past day in world's worst coronavirus crisis

https://twitter.com/bbcbreaking/status/1241410477504237568?s=21

Rocko · 21-03-2020 05:57PM

mcmoustache wrote: »

Posting some video without any context as to what it is and asking for opinions is something that only a c↓nt would do.

That's what I think.

Cool down sunshine.

In this instance Tommy Robinson was 100% correct in standing up for an old woman against scum

Not many would do it with 3 against 1

MipMap · 21-03-2020 05:57PM

macnug wrote: »

It doesnt sound too bad when you say it like that but imagine the panic when we get to ~50 deaths a day.

One good reason to flatten the curve.!

However. If we cocoon the elderly and treat everyone who is seriously ill
we can reduce that number further.

I honestly think they know what they are doing.

Bigboldworld · 21-03-2020 05:57PM

frillyleaf wrote: »

I feel that the health system is just completely overwhelmed. There is only so much care possible to give to people. They are doing their best. Doctors in Italy have never seen anything like this and are appealing to other countries to lockdown or they will be the same. We still have no quarantine, screening or flight restrictions. I’m still struggling to understand why. The slower this takes off over here the more manageable it will be. The large influx of cases Italy is experiencing has overwhelmed the health care system

Thanks for answer and I understand what you are saying but the crux of my question is why is italy being decimated by the the virus far more than other countries in Europe given that many countries have cases? Is it because they were hit first and the rest are playing catch up?

An Ciarraioch · 21-03-2020 05:58PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

I'm aware of the cognitive bias that we all possess. Normalcy bias. I like hope but it must be real hope and not tainted by horse ****.

Not all countries are following Italy's path - Norway has 2,000 cases, but just 7 deaths, so no reason our trajectory couldn't be similar.

bilston · 21-03-2020 05:58PM

el Fenomeno wrote: »

Are there studies to suggest when the lockdown should start showing in Italy's figures? Or, God forbid, is this already it (and the numbers would be much higher if not for their lockdown)?

They came into effect 12 days ago. The benefit will hopefully be seen soon in terms of case numbers.

caveat emptor · 21-03-2020 05:58PM

Bigboldworld wrote: »

Can anyone explain why Italy’s death rate is completely sky rocketing, devastating for them, why on earth with the restrictions in place is the death rate still rising astronomically? What is it that is making Italy so susceptible to this virus

I was just guessing according to some people but 15 days ago......

caveat emptor wrote: »

Could be. I don't know.

This will defo be a supply side problem though.

How many people have it? -> limiting factor how many tests do we have?
How many people are in hospital? -> How many beds do we have?
How many people in ICU? -> How many ICU beds do we have?
How many people will die? -> whatever is left over.

silverharp · 21-03-2020 05:58PM

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

Yes and likely the end of Johnson as PM. Silver lining and all that.

you are rooting for the virus, good man!

zvone · 21-03-2020 05:59PM

My wife just came from job in Whitewater shopping centre. Most shops a closed but food court a opened. It was overcrowded. Lots of kids, families, older peoples... social distancing? This is joke.
Talk is cheep, appeals a useless, we need a lock down NOW.

bekker · 21-03-2020 05:59PM

Humberto Salazar wrote: »

And no surprise, John Bolton has blamed China for all this, and that "the world must hold them accountable". Does anyone ever muzzle this loose cannon?

Given who he's been associating with, COVID-19. Though Pompeo who's been glad-handing across the globe is a more likely candidate.

bilston · 21-03-2020 06:00PM

Bambi wrote: »

Someone enlighten me, are the UK on the same path as Italy are at this stage? I've seen claims they are at the same figures as Italy were at the that stage of the outbreak in Italy.

Exactly the same number of deaths as Italy had 14 days ago.

tobefrank321 · 21-03-2020 06:00PM

I really fear desite our best efforts our own cases will take off because of people going back and forth to the UK.

Whats the point of shutting down and putting 500,000 out of work if the government don't close the airports to passenger flights especially passenger flights to the UK?

We might as well not shut down at all.

1800_Ladladlad · 21-03-2020 06:00PM

Rocko wrote: »

Taking Tommy Robinson's past outta of it, don't want to hear of that.

What ye think of this..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJp7jLRGOqY

Careful now. The progressive brigade on here will cancel you.

The lads in the video are uneducated degenerate prawns. Listen to the way they speak and how they interact with the people in the video. They got called out for their sub-human behavior and they don't like it. Bomba clatts!!

KathleenGrant · 21-03-2020 06:01PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

nice addition to the public record. I don't speak French, I was trying to empathise with the poster who can't translate by going outside my comfort zone. Thanks for teaching me something I couldn't care about. Do please address the point Keep trying :pac:

You were not empathising. You were being an ass. If empathising you didn't need to use the phrase and then say "that's French by the way" I don't care if you care or not. When being an ass you should be called out on it.
"Address the point" you are an ass.
"Keep trying" you are an ass.

Shn99 · 21-03-2020 06:02PM

A program “Lessons from Wuhan” will be broadcast at 6:30pm on RTE Player and RTE News Now

FVP3 · 21-03-2020 06:02PM

People panicing about the continued increase in Italian numbers should realise that the virus would increase exponentially if it was business as usual. It doesnt stop at 50,000, or 500,000, or even 5 million. This is what has scared the politicians in the lockdown.

The good news is that the Italian curve is flattening. It took a mere seven days to go from 79 to 1,128 (feb 22 - 29) , another ten to go from that to 10,149 (march 10), and in the last ten days to yesterday the increase has been five fold, to 47000.

(I am picking the closest numbers to 100, 1,000, 10,000 etc)

Had the previous trend continued, it would have been more than 100,000 today. We will know more in a week or so.

Jin luk · 21-03-2020 06:02PM

Update must be for the 9 o clock news?

Just Saying · 21-03-2020 06:03PM

Surely comparing percentage rates of deaths to cases and also daily increase in cases between countries is futile unless the criteria for testing in each country is similar.

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CoVid-19 Part IX - 785 cases ROI (3 deaths) 108 in NI (1 death) (20 March) Read OP