CoVid-19 Part IX - 785 cases ROI (3 deaths) 108 in NI (1 death) (20 March) Read OP

Blueshoe · 21-03-2020 03:34PM

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Is it safe to get a takeaway?

Don't fear the reaper

tobefrank321 · 21-03-2020 03:35PM

If the UK is riddled with it its only a matter of time before we are too. Aer Lingus operate something like 40 flights a day to and from London and thats just out of Dublin airport. If only 100 people on each flight that's 4000 a day going over and back.
At a certain stage you'd have to question these flights especially since we don't quarantine those arriving . Our lockdown is a bit of PR exercise at best.

Strazdas · 21-03-2020 03:36PM

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Is it safe to get a takeaway?

Yes : I read somewhere yesterday that the virus hates hot food, so it should be safe to consume (and the packaging should be safe too).

FVP3 · 21-03-2020 03:38PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

No because unlike you I can speak a different language. Reads fine to me. Education is hard work. I suggest you start with google translate, copy and paste. Either way I couldn't give a fvck. You are welcome.

I don't know dude, posting a respectable foreign language link is highly suspect. You can't expect this kind of thing to be accepted by the hoi polli.

Im surprised the forriners have newspapers myself.

wakka12 · 21-03-2020 03:38PM

tobefrank321 wrote: »

If the UK is riddled with it its only a matter of time before we are too. Aer Lingus operate something like 40 flights a day to and from London and thats just out of Dublin airport. If only 100 people on each flight that's 4000 a day going over and back.
At a certain stage you'd have to question these flights especially since we don't quarantine those arriving . Our lockdown is a bit of PR exercise at best.

Probably mostly empty flights though. I hardly know anyone leaving their house for much other than work or a walk so I doubt theres anyone going to and from London on leisure trips

jam_mac_jam · 21-03-2020 03:39PM

niallo27 wrote: »

Well I worry about the mental health issues of people and hos many suicides this will bring but I guess them lives dont matter do they.

Do you think this is comparable? Do you think that the jobs will be there if we don't do something now?

Blueshoe · 21-03-2020 03:39PM

Tell me how wrote: »

Hopefully you'll start to question what he comes out with in future instead of giving him a pass or even praising him.

Even right now, it's ridiculous to see his supporters saying that he is the President the need to deal with this crisis.

Shocking ignorance.

When Joe Biden gets in I hope people will put in the same level of constant scrutiny.
Joe Biden is like someone's elderly uncle that gets confused more often than not. Some of his rallies have really shown up how away with the fairies he can be.

Trump will have to listen to the CDC. He can say whatever he wants at press conferences but the reality is he isn't a doctor nor is he expected to be. His job right now is to keep the money flowing into healthcare and listen to the advice of those qualified enough to give it. If the US fails we are all f*cked. (Financially speaking)

bilston · 21-03-2020 03:39PM

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Is it safe to get a takeaway?

Shouldn't be a problem getting a delivery. Pay by card and ask them to leave the food on the doorstep.

DevilsHaircut · 21-03-2020 03:40PM

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/wicklow-man-recovered-from-coronavirus-showed-no-symptoms-after-ski-trip-1.4209060

DevilsHaircut · 21-03-2020 03:42PM

Wicklow man recovered from coronavirus showed no symptoms after ski trip

https://twitter.com/IrishTimes/status/1241385840711839744

Funsterdelux · 21-03-2020 03:42PM

GM228 wrote: »

We don't have martial law in Ireland.

Hes coming soon, with his mate Marshel Manners

sheepsh4gger · 21-03-2020 03:42PM

DevilsHaircut wrote: »

Take-away: self-isolate if you get a sudden loss of smell or taste https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1241376338554040322

That sounds like the Spanish Flu

Happy4all · 21-03-2020 03:43PM

DevilsHaircut wrote: »

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/wicklow-man-recovered-from-coronavirus-showed-no-symptoms-after-ski-trip-1.4209060

We know people recover it's the less fortunate that they can pass it on to is the worry

Tell me how · 21-03-2020 03:43PM

Blueshoe wrote: »

When Joe Biden gets in I hope people will put in the same level of constant scrutiny.
Joe Biden is like someone's elderly uncle that gets confused more often than not. Some of his rallies have really shown up how away with the fairies he can be.

Trump will have to listen to the CDC. He can say whatever he wants at press conferences but the reality is he isn't a doctor nor is he expected to be. His job right now is to keep the money flowing into healthcare and listen to the advice of those qualified enough to give it. If the US fails we are all f*cked. (Financially speaking)

Trump is behaving through this exactly as he was expected to by anyone who gave any sort of reasonable scrutiny to him over the last several years and particularly since he announced he was running for President.

FVP3 · 21-03-2020 03:44PM

tobefrank321 wrote: »

If the UK is riddled with it its only a matter of time before we are too. Aer Lingus operate something like 40 flights a day to and from London and thats just out of Dublin airport. If only 100 people on each flight that's 4000 a day going over and back.
At a certain stage you'd have to question these flights especially since we don't quarantine those arriving . Our lockdown is a bit of PR exercise at best.

The UK is less riddled by it than we are. At least if you trust their figures, which I don't fully, but nevertheless I don't trust Ireland either.

I've been lurking here a while and I must say I am worried about Ireland, Germany and the US more than most other countries. The worldometer site sees no slowdown in the increase in these countries ( particularly visible in the log scale). Theres a ten fold increase every ten day or so, faster in Germany in fact.

The Italian and Spanish curve is beginning to flatten. The increases are still happening but the rate of the increase in slowing.

Blueshoe · 21-03-2020 03:44PM

Tell me how wrote: »

Trump is behaving through this exactly as he was expected to by anyone who gave any sort of reasonable scrutiny to him over the last several years and particularly since he announced he was running for President.

Yes he is behaving the same as he always has. That's his personality. The man is over 70 . He won't be changing. I think we all know this

bilston · 21-03-2020 03:44PM

newbie18892 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/OxfordDiplomat/status/1240776914693951496?s=20

UK really are desperate with not testing people even if they end up in hospital!

To be fair that tweet is two days old and they are ramping up testing now to 25,000 a day eventually.

However it has been a major complaint of mine about the UK strategy, more so than the delay in closing schools.

Test, test, test...there are so many potential benefits with testing as many people as possible.

Even 25,000 tests a day isn't enough, they should be doing 100,000 tests a day. People need to know if they have had it and have recovered.

Reckless Abandonment · 21-03-2020 03:44PM

Why are the airports still open. Who's travelling??
Anyone wanting to go home or come surely has done it already?

sheepsh4gger · 21-03-2020 03:45PM

SusanC10 wrote: »

Butcher down home is doing free delivery to surrounding areas. Has his 2 sons in 2 vans dropping to people. My Mum is getting deliveries and I would hate for that to stop.

You can still trade normally, just need to think differently.
Say you can take order requests by email/what's app. In Chicago shops offer contactless service.

DevilsHaircut · 21-03-2020 03:45PM

Happy4all wrote: »

We know people recover it's the less fortunate that they can pass it on to is the worry

Exactly - asymptomatic cases can spread the virus (the recovery is great but not the main take-away I would suggest)

yerwanthere123 · 21-03-2020 03:47PM

newbie18892 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/OxfordDiplomat/status/1240776914693951496?s=20

UK really are desperate with not testing people even if they end up in hospital!

Only 4,094 people officially diagnosed, the true number has got to be a lot, lot higher than that.

elperello · 21-03-2020 03:47PM

Reckless Abandonment wrote: »

Why are the airports still open. Who's travelling??
Anyone wanting to go home or come surely has done it already?

Not quite.

Some still en-route.

Agree it should be repatriation or exceptional reasons only at this stage.

bilston · 21-03-2020 03:47PM

FVP3 wrote: »

The UK is less riddled by it than we are. At least if you trust their figures, which I don't fully, but nevertheless I don't trust Ireland either.

I've been lurking here a while and I must say I am worried about Ireland, Germany and the US more than most other countries. The worldometer site sees no slowdown in the increase in these countries ( particularly visible in the log scale). Theres a ten fold increase every ten day or so, faster in Germany in fact.

The Italian and Spanish curve is beginning to flatten. The increases are still happening but the rate of the increase in slowing.

There are 30 or 40 people dying in the UK every day from it. This, sadly is about to go up, significantly, the UK confirmed case numbers are useless. If you get symptoms you are told to stay at home for 7-14 days...you only get tested you get severe symptoms. Now that is changing, but up to now the UK confirmed cases have been nonsense. Sure the chief medical officer himself admitted a few days ago that there were more like 60,000 cases in the UK. I'd say they have passed 100,000 now.

Snowbiee21 · 21-03-2020 03:48PM

Well

Signore Fancy Pants · 21-03-2020 03:49PM

Snowbiee21 wrote: »

Well

Testing location.....not some sort of quarantine/detention camp.

Jim_Hodge · 21-03-2020 03:50PM

FVP3 wrote: »

The UK is less riddled by it than we are. At least if you trust their figures, which I don't fully, but nevertheless I don't trust Ireland either.

I've been lurking here a while and I must say I am worried about Ireland, Germany and the US more than most other countries. The worldometer site sees no slowdown in the increase in these countries ( particularly visible in the log scale). Theres a ten fold increase every ten day or so, faster in Germany in fact.

The Italian and Spanish curve is beginning to flatten. The increases are still happening but the rate of the increase in slowing.

You have no basis for that load of rubbish. Why not trust our figures? At least we are doing a lot more testing than the UK. It's easy to stay down the worldometer league table by not testing, and thus not confirming, positive cases.

This type of pontificating without facts is neither clever, enlightening, helpful, nor worth heeding.

pH · 21-03-2020 03:51PM

One quick question was there any specific announcement that the Dail bar was to close when the rest of them did or is it still open? Can't see any reports either way.

sheepsh4gger · 21-03-2020 03:52PM

Strazdas wrote: »

Yes : I read somewhere yesterday that the virus hates hot food, so it should be safe to consume (and the packaging should be safe too).

Regardless if there's a virus or not they should prepare your food in sanitary conditions. I don't go to restaurants because I know they are dirty. I don't eat anything unless it's in sealed packaging and was treated with heat. No raw meat especially (sushi or tartare steak).

FVP3 · 21-03-2020 03:53PM

GM228 wrote: »

Usually paid for with borrowed money, which then has to be paid back, states don't just print money en masse to pay for things, you run the massive risk of hyperinflation.

Zimbabwe tried it in 2008, guess what happened - they got hit with hyperinflation, prices rose as much as 231,000,000% in a single year. To put that into perspective, something which cost one Zimbabwean dollar before the inflation would have cost Z$231 million a year later.

No the money isn't borrowed, its just created. I can't see any reference to Zimbabwe using helicopter money during their time of hyperinflation. In fact theories of hyperinflation being caused by excessive borrowing or printing seem wanting in empirical evidence, like a lot of economics.

anyway all this is moot in a deflationary period. Imagine instead of deflation of 5%, you add enough money to the money supply to increase inflation by 5%. That gets you back to 0.

People don't want to believe this, but banks create money all the time, when they issue loans.

darjeeling · 21-03-2020 03:53PM

Martina1991 wrote: »

This is the second post that has mentioned this but i cant find it.

Do you have a source?

Tests for TB are not the same as the procedure for Covid19. The procedures would have to first be validated before use.
I imagine staff wouldn't be accredited to perform testing on patient samples. There's would be GDPR red tape.

Agri labs wouldn't have the access to health link, the program that sends patient results electronically from the lab to the GP practice.

I had an email forwarded to me yesterday by a former colleague now at Teagasc saying that DAFM were looking for experienced lab staff to work at two locations, one a govt lab and the other a govt-accredited commercial lab, with work under supervision from DAFM & NVRL.

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CoVid-19 Part IX - 785 cases ROI (3 deaths) 108 in NI (1 death) (20 March) Read OP