CoVid-19 Part IX - 785 cases ROI (3 deaths) 108 in NI (1 death) (20 March) Read OP

21-03-2020 02:16PM

mikeoc85 wrote: »

I agree, it’s always sad when someone dies. My grandfather used to say that the flu was the old persons friend as it was send them to the grave when it was their time.

If this continues no one has any quality of life. I 100% understand if it takes healthy people but when it takes old people that have lives a full life, who have underlying conditions are we’re on the way out anyway...then that needs to be reported.

Otherwise what’s the point. We’re all sacrificing our freedom, our kids futures, our homes, our jobs just so some old people can live a few more months until some other illness takes them?!

Listen to what the Italians are saying, its killing young people too.

Grayditch · 21-03-2020 02:17PM

mikeoc85 wrote: »

Otherwise what’s the point. We’re all sacrificing our freedom, our kids futures, our homes, our jobs just so some old people can live a few more months until some other illness takes them?!

I read this in Patrick Bateman's voice.

mikeoc85 · 21-03-2020 02:17PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Listen to what the Italians are saying, its killing young people too.

3 people with no underlying conditions in the last week. So that’s roughly 0.1%.

Let’s lock up everyone for the foreseeable future, let’s not have any economy or jobs, no way of providing any sort of decent life for our families.

ASOT · 21-03-2020 02:18PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Why is that? What's the landlord going to do about it? I dont condone violence but god help any landlord knocking on my door asking me to leave.

Hahahahaha clown

niallo27 · 21-03-2020 02:19PM

mikeoc85 wrote: »

3 people with no underlying conditions in the last week. So that’s roughly 0.1%.

More than likely no underlying conditions they didnt know about yet.

Jizique · 21-03-2020 02:19PM

Vudgie wrote: »

Has there been any comment on where the woman contracted the virus was it from the general community?

Hope nobody suggests the live-tweeter was on a ski holiday in Ischgl

21-03-2020 02:20PM

mikeoc85 wrote: »

3 people with no underlying conditions in the last week. So that’s roughly 0.1%.

Let’s lock up everyone for the foreseeable future, let’s not have any economy or jobs, no way of providing any sort of decent life for our families.

Ok yes my bad. I meant it is infecting young people too and hospitalising them, contributing the strain on services. Reports of this in the UK also.

weldoninhio · 21-03-2020 02:20PM

Jizique wrote: »

She was a bit of an attention seeker

Think she was in the Indo or IT this morning as well in an interview talking about it.

caveat emptor · 21-03-2020 02:21PM

Blueshoe wrote: »

Government will have to cover ip to 70% of peoples wages who have been made redundant or else the economy may collapse apparently.

Covid19 to cost the country at least 34 billion all in.

Italy have implemented two important policies regarding jobs and the economy.

made it illegal for anyone to be fired during this crisis
Companies have to cover 80% of people's wages

Makes sense considering it is not their fault. Businesses have been given many incentives such as tax breaks and mortgage/insurance holidays etc.

Government should do something soon.

21-03-2020 02:22PM

ASOT wrote: »

Hahahahaha clown

Care to elaborate? You honestly think a landlord stands a chance of evicting someone at the moment?

Naggdefy · 21-03-2020 02:22PM

Blueshoe wrote: »

Government will have to cover ip to 70% of peoples wages who have been made redundant or else the economy may collapse apparently.

Covid19 to cost the country at least 34 billion all in.

Figures and you don't go too well Blushoe

Don't start your calculations yet. 45 were going to test positive with +/- 2 figure for Covid in Ireland 2 days ago. You said we could quote you on it. We had 191. You actually have a neck to come on here giving percentages and figures. We are all clueless at the moment but you're off the charts.

noodler · 21-03-2020 02:22PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

Italy have implemented two important policies regarding jobs and the economy.
made it illegal for anyone to be fired during this crisis

Companies have to cover 80% of people's wages

Makes sense considering it is not their fault. Businesses have been given many incentives such as tax breaks and mortgage/insurance holidays etc.

Government should do something soon.

That's fairly useless is the companies are bust.

The most affected here so far are restaurants , cAfes, pubs etc and they can't pay wages without income.

Mwengwe · 21-03-2020 02:22PM

niallo27 wrote: »

More than likely no underlying conditions they didnt know about yet.

ah well that makes it ok, what a relief.

Strazdas · 21-03-2020 02:23PM

mikeoc85 wrote: »

3 people with no underlying conditions in the last week. So that’s roughly 0.1%.

Let’s lock up everyone for the foreseeable future, let’s not have any economy or jobs, no way of providing any sort of decent life for our families.

I was reading what Spanish supermarkets are like at the moment : customers wearing gloves, tape and markings on the floor, people 2m apart, paying by credit card ......in other words, identical to Ireland.

The Irish social distancing measures are much stricter than the 'lockdown now' guys realise, they've somehow convinced themselves we are being lax here.

whisky_galore · 21-03-2020 02:23PM

walshb wrote: »

Listening to RTE now..

We are not pushing this

“If” you can maintain social distancing, no harm in cafes and restaurants remaining open...

That’s just absurd.

I think there's only so much that can be achieved by asking the public nicely. "Shaming" has got a bad rap recently, I think it should be used to force people to behave correctly at times such as now.

NegativeCreep · 21-03-2020 02:24PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

Italy have implemented two important policies regarding jobs and the economy.
made it illegal for anyone to be fired during this crisis

Companies have to cover 80% of people's wages

Makes sense considering it is not their fault. Businesses have been given many incentives such as tax breaks and mortgage/insurance holidays etc.

Government should do something soon.

That should definitely be done here too. Plenty of campaniles will fire their staff and walk away with any money they have rather than pay their employees

Blueshoe · 21-03-2020 02:25PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

Italy have implemented two important policies regarding jobs and the economy.
made it illegal for anyone to be fired during this crisis

Companies have to cover 80% of people's wages

Makes sense considering it is not their fault. Businesses have been given many incentives such as tax breaks and mortgage/insurance holidays etc.

Government should do something soon.

Now talk about unsustainable. Businesses no longer operating yet still paying 80% of wages. Might be ok for the Googles and Microsofts of the world but Mary's coffee house won't be able to do that.

21-03-2020 02:26PM

As I posted in other threads, not long back from a fortnight in Africa. Have been very ill with breathlessness, fever, myalgia, low oxygen saturation down to 82%, nausea, shivering, profuse sweating. In touch with doctor, to be tested, and to keep a very close eye on sats with my pulse oximeter from Aldi/Lidl. Malaria is also a possibility but less likely as the area I visited has an almost zero incidence, but I gave passed through areas of active Covid-19.

Lord TSC · 21-03-2020 02:27PM

Blueshoe wrote: »

Now talk about unsustainable. Businesses no longer operating yet still paying 80% of wages. Might be ok for the Googles and Microsofts of the world but Mary's coffee house won't be able to do that.

Yeah, this would work for about a week or two And then a lot of businesses would just go bankrupt.

Blueshoe · 21-03-2020 02:28PM

Naggdefy wrote: »

Figures and you don't go too well Blushoe Don't start your calculations yet. 45 were going to test positive with +/- 2 figure for Covid in Ireland 2 days ago. You said we could quote you on it. We had 191. You actually have a neck to come on here giving percentages and figures. We are all clueless at the moment but you're off the charts.

100% chance that you are looking to argue.
0% chance I will take the bait.

I love you though

noodler · 21-03-2020 02:28PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

Italy have implemented two important policies regarding jobs and the economy.
made it illegal for anyone to be fired during this crisis

Companies have to cover 80% of people's wages

Makes sense considering it is not their fault. Businesses have been given many incentives such as tax breaks and mortgage/insurance holidays etc.

Government should do something soon.

Any links to either of those by the way?

Haven't heard of them and a cursory Google.dodnt what me anything.

It was the.UK that introduced an 80% income measure yesterday but it seems it only applies if the company DOESN'T lay off the worker and actually keep the job on ice (which may be impossible in and of itself?

ITman88 · 21-03-2020 02:28PM

NegativeCreep wrote: »

That should definitely be done here too. Plenty of campaniles will fire their staff and walk away with any money they have rather than pay their employees

Well that would be the standard approach.
If someone took the risk to start the business it’s their full entitlement to walk away if and when they want

jackboy · 21-03-2020 02:29PM

niallo27 wrote: »

Why did they bail us out last time though, do you really think it was because they thought we were a great bunch of lads. It was to protect themselves and the bond holders.

Because the money we owed originated from German banks. This is different, they will use all available funds for themselves.

Also, Germany will leave the EU as soon as it is not a benefit to them. Despite what people think, Germany are in the EU for profit only, not because they want to spread love and peace.

Naggdefy · 21-03-2020 02:30PM

Blueshoe wrote: »

100% chance that you are looking to argue.
0% chance I will take the bait.

I love you though

Are you sure about your percentages? 100% I'm just laughing at you!

Loafing Oaf · 21-03-2020 02:30PM

NegativeCreep wrote: »

That should definitely be done here too. Plenty of campaniles will fire their staff and walk away with any money they have rather than pay their employees

Yeah those bell towers are notoriously ruthless employers...

21-03-2020 02:30PM

noodler wrote: »

Any links to either of those by the way?

Haven't heard of them and a cursory Google.dodnt what me anything.

It was the.UK that introduced an 80% income measure yesterday but it seems it only applies if the company DOESN'T lay off the worker and actually keep the job on ice (which may be impossible in and of itself?

Wouldnt this give companies who are still operating (IT companies remotely from home etc) the option of slashing wages when they otherwise wouldnt have if this incentive did not exist?

Signore Fancy Pants · 21-03-2020 02:31PM

Rob A. Bank wrote: »

Incredibly insensitive post.

YUCK !!!

He's right though.

What type of person does that? Live Tweets her mothers prolonged death.

Now THAT is insensitive.

caveat emptor · 21-03-2020 02:32PM

noodler wrote: »

That's fairly useless is the companies are bust.

The most affected here so far are restaurants , cAfes, pubs etc and they can't pay wages without income.

Really hard. You will have to suspend your disbelief for a second. Here's a few things to consider while considering the problem.

The central bank of Ireland can print as many yo-yos as they want
They can choose who to give those freshly printed digital 1s and 0s to whoever they want.
To date this has been given to banks in the hope they would "recapitalise" and lend to people in the real economy (at a profit)
The books don't need to balance. Checkout the US treasury's current liabilities for that one.

shesty · 21-03-2020 02:32PM

walshb wrote: »

Listening to RTE now..

We are not pushing this

“If” you can maintain social distancing, no harm in cafes and restaurants remaining open...

That’s just absurd.

They are trying to keep people sane.
Its a marathon, not a sprint.
Cafes around me are open.You can't sit in, you stand on the marked X on the ground in the shop, or on the pavement outside and they serve you with gloves on, or through a window.You can ring in your order either and they will bring it out to your car window. Couple of restaurants here are closed to the public, but offering to cater portions for ring-in orders.
It can be done, with ingenuity.

niallo27 · 21-03-2020 02:32PM

Mwengwe wrote: »

ah well that makes it ok, what a relief.

Well if you are under 60 with no underlying conditions and you have a younger family then yes it is a huge relief.

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CoVid-19 Part IX - 785 cases ROI (3 deaths) 108 in NI (1 death) (20 March) Read OP