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CoVid-19 Part IX - 785 cases ROI (3 deaths) 108 in NI (1 death) (20 March) *Read OP*

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  • #6842
    iwillyeah1234
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 445 ✭✭iwillyeah1234


    Boris decides to close the pubs - and what do the Brits do?

    Head to the pubs before they’re closed
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8136757/Drinkers-enjoy-final-pint-start-panic-buying-alcohol-UK-WIDE-pub-lockdown.html


  • #6843
    Glenbhoy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,853 ✭✭✭Glenbhoy


    otnomart wrote: »
    Research has established the samples from Italy are all related to Bavaria Patient 1 (shortened in BavPat1)
    Source: https://nextstrain.org/


    The patient in Bavaria was infected by a colleague from China.
    Article from the New England Journal of Medicine
    https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.105...d-mnX3d9F_WRzM


    Germany initially assumed they had fully contained the Bavaria outbreak in January - but now we know they didn't.



    That research is hypothetical and doesn't stand up to scrutiny. However the virus got to Italy, it seems fairly certain it has been there well in advance of bavpat1 infection. It's probable that persons with no to very mild symptoms simply spread the virus unknowingly, this isn't a conspiracy trying to single out one group or the other, it's how the most successful viruses have always spread.


  • #6844
    Longing
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,224 ✭✭✭Longing


    Macdarack wrote: »
    Why would God allow this plague, maybe he did it, but its confusing, the most devoted of his sheep would be the over 80s but why does he target them, or allow it to kill them, his most loyal followers? Doesn't make sense. Just doesn't.

    Maybe God allowed the pandemic for man's sins. So he allowed Satan to go ahead.

    God will see his faithful in these troubled times. Who call out to him.

    God is all love he does not target anyone. Sin kills man.


  • #6845
    Ninthlife
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,460 ✭✭✭Ninthlife


    amadangomor wrote: »
    Totally dodgy. He will probably blame it on gay people, not the person we would want in charge at all. People need to think about the stuff they spout.

    Before you climb on your political high horse read exactly what I said

    An individual like him, not Putin per se but someone not afraid to make decisions.

    ****s sake every day someone just lurks waiting to jump on posts to make political statements..think about the stuff you spout yourself


  • #6846
    amadangomor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭amadangomor


    iwillyeah1234 wrote: »
    Boris decides to close the pubs - and what do the Brits do?

    Head to the pubs before they’re closed
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8136757/Drinkers-enjoy-final-pint-start-panic-buying-alcohol-UK-WIDE-pub-lockdown.html

    Should have shut them at 8pm or a similar early time. People really are thick.


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  • #6847
    Hobgoblin11
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭Hobgoblin11


    Longing wrote: »
    Maybe God allowed the pandemic for man's sins. So he allowed Satan to go ahead.

    God will see his faithful in these troubled times. Who call out to him.

    God is all love he does not target anyone. Sin kills man.

    if sin kills man, show me the evidence of a man who succumbed to sin?

    Dundalk, Co. Louth



  • #6848
    Reckless Abandonment
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,544 ✭✭✭Reckless Abandonment


    Thialand is interesting. They had 45 cases about 4 weeks ago . Now its 411 . I wonder how their health system is holding up. Using italy as an example they should be over ran with it by now.


  • #6849
    amadangomor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭amadangomor


    Ninthlife wrote: »
    Before you climb on your political high horse read exactly what I said

    An individual like him, not Putin per se but someone not afraid to make decisions.

    ****s sake every day someone just lurks waiting to jump on posts to make political statements..think about the stuff you spout yourself

    You said no BS and I gave an example in my previous post that he is absolutely full of BS. Our democratic government are doing a good job. It's idiot members of the public not playing ball that is causing issues.


  • #6850
    ChikiChiki
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    iwillyeah1234 wrote: »
    Boris decides to close the pubs - and what do the Brits do?

    Head to the pubs before they’re closed
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8136757/Drinkers-enjoy-final-pint-start-panic-buying-alcohol-UK-WIDE-pub-lockdown.html

    A collective mindset of The Great British spirit at work.

    Half expecting the Grant sisters to release twitter videos full of false facts highlighting how great they are and how they will beat the virus through their Britishness.


  • #6851
    Longing
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,224 ✭✭✭Longing


    Hobgoblin11 wrote: »
    if sin kills man, show me the evidence of a man who succumbed to sin?

    The Bible all the evidence is there my friend.


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  • #6852
    italodisco
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,426 ✭✭✭italodisco


    _Kaiser_ wrote: »
    I wouldn't say its very effective in even that sense. Was out for a spin around the town yesterday and everyone seemed to be just doing their daily business with little regard for distancing. Few women wearing scarves over their faces but that's about all. Shops and streets as busy as usual.

    On some practicalities.. How are people approaching things like getting a haircut, getting tyres for their cars or a service - all of which I need :) - given that a lot of businesses are shutting down now

    I'm a fiend for getting a back and sides every 2 weeks, I'm not too comfortable about going to a barbers now, even if it's empty I don't know how many people the barber has been in contact with.

    I'll look like a viking by the time this is over


  • #6853
    GetWithIt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,081 ✭✭✭GetWithIt


    iwillyeah1234 wrote: »
    Boris decides to close the pubs - and what do the Brits do?

    Head to the pubs before they’re closed
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8136757/Drinkers-enjoy-final-pint-start-panic-buying-alcohol-UK-WIDE-pub-lockdown.html
    Ha ha. Silly Brits. We’d never do that


  • #6854
    Hobgoblin11
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭Hobgoblin11


    Longing wrote: »
    The Bible all the evidence is there my friend.

    the new or old release?

    Dundalk, Co. Louth



  • #6855
    Atlantic Dawn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,156 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    Macdarack wrote: »
    Friday 6 days time? In Ireland?


    Yes.


  • #6856
    Maxpfizer
    Closed Accounts Posts: 496 ✭✭Maxpfizer


    iwillyeah1234 wrote: »
    Police step in to guard a Tesco in London

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8137409/Police-step-stop-selfish-stockpilers-barging-past-pensioners-supermarkets.html

    Queues since 5am

    I think there's a real problem with people receiving mixed messages here.
    From the government, the media and each other.

    If someone with the ability to work from home goes down to Tesco and stocks up a months worth of food then that person can completely isolate themselves for a month. Or they can do it for 2 weeks or 10 days if that seems more reasonable. Either way, stock up for X days and you can have complete social distancing for X days.

    So if that person is buying into the idea that it's too dangerous to be around people, or even to be outside at all, then stockpiling is seen as an absolute necessity. Go to Tesco once then stay indoors for 2 weeks, a month, whatever.

    Can you really blame them?

    Mention on here that you are meeting a friend in the park and you'll get grief from people saying it isn't necessary and you should stay in etc.

    At the same time it's fine to go to a busy supermarket every 2 or 3 days because you're also a terrible person if you stock up on 2 weeks worth of food to stay away from others for a two week stretch.

    Don't go outside at all!
    Also don't buy a months worth of food so that you don't need to go outside!

    The only way to stay safe is to stay inside and away from other people!
    Also be sure to get yourself down to the supermarket every 4 or 5 days because hoarders are scum.

    The media winds people up into a frenzy making every trip outdoors seem like a massive, potentially terminal, risk and then turns right around and rips into people showing up at the supermarket at 6am thinking they will stock up and not need to leave home for a few weeks.


  • #6857
    amadangomor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭amadangomor


    italodisco wrote: »
    I'm a fiend for getting a back and sides every 2 weeks, I'm not too comfortable about going to a barbers now, even if it's empty I don't know how many people the barber has been in contact with.

    I'll look like a viking by the time this is over

    Surely barbers are all closed? Impossible to socially isolate from one! If a barber got it he would probably infect all his customers. The chances of him getting infected would be huge.


  • #6858
    Ninthlife
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,460 ✭✭✭Ninthlife


    amadangomor wrote: »
    You said no BS and I gave an example in my previous post that he is absolutely full of BS. Our democratic government are doing a good job. It's idiot members of the public not playing ball that is causing issues.

    Jesus...here we go.

    Just to clarify I was talking about there being a specific issue, shops doubling prices on face masks. He made a no bull **** decision, revoke the license, set an example

    Im not commenting on anything else he has done or said just that his handling on that issue was commendable and in a crisis that kind of decision making can aave lives


  • #6859
    Hobgoblin11
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭Hobgoblin11


    amadangomor wrote: »
    Surely barbers are all closed? Impossible to socially isolate from one! If a barber got it he would probably infect all his customers. The chances of him getting infected would be huge.
    ever try giving a someone a haircut with a hazmut suit on? Its not easy

    Dundalk, Co. Louth



  • #6860
    Rob A. Bank
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭Rob A. Bank


    bb12 wrote: »
    it's late and i'm tired but having discussed this with several people today i'm now leaning more towards the idea that our government are indeed following the herd immunity agenda.

    a vaccine is nowhere near on the horizon despite what politicians say and promise...scientists have never been able to come up with any type of vaccine for other coronoviruses before, so this doesn't hold up much hope for one in this case and even if they did by some scientific breakthrough it could be years away..society just couldn't be shut down for that long without some serious social upheaval and unrest developing at some stage

    because they have left and still are leaving the borders open and basically don't have any real controls in place, it seems like they are allowing herd immunity by stealth...i guess the social distancing mantra for now is to slow down the icu cases but in the end i think they accept that a lot of vulnerable and old will die and there's not really anything anyone can do about it.

    An effective new or existing antiviral drug holds out more hope than a vaccine, I think.

    I am inclined to agree with you bb12 about their 'herd immunity by stealth' strategy. Sitting behind a table with 2 yellow coronavirus signs at Dublin airport was just window dressing. It was no way to defend the country against the introduction of this deadly virus.

    Then waiting for the numbers to rise, to some mystery state secret amount, before taking any sensible preventative measures was grossly negligent IMHO.

    Re-branding incarcerating the elderly as 'Cocooning', or in the UK as 'Shielding', is one of the worst modern examples of advertisers doublespeak... since George Orwell's book "1984".

    What happens to the elderly when they emerge from their 'cocooning' ?

    They have a one in five chance of dying when they get infected... Russian roulette odds are better.. at least it gives you a five out of six chance of survival.

    So disappointed with what is happening here...


  • #6861
    Heckler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,358 ✭✭✭Heckler


    Longing wrote: »
    Maybe God allowed the pandemic for man's sins. So he allowed Satan to go ahead.

    God will see his faithful in these troubled times. Who call out to him.

    God is all love he does not target anyone. Sin kills man.

    Maybe I missed something but the Pope has been very quiet in these troubling times. Not even a message of hope to the followers ? Could he be dead from the virus ?!


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  • #6862
    kevcos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 220 ✭✭kevcos


    ChikiChiki wrote: »
    A collective mindset of The Great British spirit at work.

    Half expecting the Grant sisters to release twitter videos full of false facts highlighting how great they are and how they will beat the virus through their Britishness.

    Collective mindset?
    So exactly how many Brits went to the boozer last night seeing as you have such an insight?


  • #6863
    italodisco
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,426 ✭✭✭italodisco


    amadangomor wrote: »
    Surely barbers are all closed? Impossible to socially isolate from one! If a barber got it he would probably infect all his customers. The chances of him getting infected would be huge.

    The barber is open ffs, madness.

    And the gym next to my girlfriends house off ossory Road in North strand is still open too which boggles the mind.
    Supposedly have measures in place, which are advising members to try space themselves and wipe down equipment.

    Absolute nonsense. As for the users still going there who have families at home etc, very irresponsible


  • #6864
    Longing
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,224 ✭✭✭Longing


    Heckler wrote: »
    Maybe I missed something but the Pope has been very quiet in these troubling times. Not even a message of hope to the followers ? Could he be dead from the virus ?!

    Seek and you shall find my friend.

    https://www.lastampa.it/esteri/la-stampa-in-english/2020/03/20/news/pope-francis-don-t-be-afraid-1.38613776


  • #6865
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    Spain will be worse than Italy soon..first update today, 3355 new cases and 233 new deaths.


  • #6866
    Ninthlife
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,460 ✭✭✭Ninthlife


    amadangomor wrote: »
    Surely barbers are all closed? Impossible to socially isolate from one! If a barber got it he would probably infect all his customers. The chances of him getting infected would be huge.

    Barbers open near me too, all wearing face masks and gloves..

    I'll be doing a DIY cut for the forseeable


  • #6867
    Johnny1999
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 112 ✭✭Johnny1999


    Hobgoblin11 wrote: »
    the new or old release?

    No the paperback version, I have a copy signed by the author! Lol


  • #6868
    amadangomor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭amadangomor


    Longing wrote: »
    Seek and you shall find my friend.

    https://www.lastampa.it/esteri/la-stampa-in-english/2020/03/20/news/pope-francis-don-t-be-afraid-1.38613776

    Great, can we deal with facts on here and forget about the religious mumbo jumbo. There is a religious forum for that stuff.


  • #6869
    mandrake04
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,435 ✭✭✭mandrake04


    Heckler wrote: »
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-51984725

    Images from Bondi Beach on Friday showed swimmers, surfers and sunbathers packed in huge numbers onto the sand.

    ****ing aussie *****.

    A lot of them are retarded backpackers so they don’t give a fùck


  • #6870
    TheChizler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,570 ✭✭✭TheChizler


    italodisco wrote: »
    The barber is open ffs, madness.

    Assuming that they're washing hands and equipment between customers, and don't have a cough or sneeze, by what mechanism do you see them sharing the virus?


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  • #6871
    Longing
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,224 ✭✭✭Longing


    amadangomor wrote: »
    Great, can we deal with facts on here and forget about the religious mumbo jumbo. There is a religious forum for that stuff.

    I didn't bring it up. I was only answering somebody. But of course shoot the messenger.


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