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CoVid-19 Part IX - 785 cases ROI (3 deaths) 108 in NI (1 death) (20 March) *Read OP*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭all about the mane


    whiskeyman wrote: »
    We seem to be lucky here and it wasn't that bad compared to the UK with crazy panic buyers and empty shelves.
    Sure we got the one day since the schools were announced closed, but I think the government did well drip feeding the measures and of course the suppliers and retailers have been great.

    Though plenty on here complained that more decisive action wasn't taken, it does seem to have prevented the panic experienced elsewhere. They seem to have got the balance right on that one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,992 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    For any parents of children or teenagers - who think it's ok for them to go and hang out ...

    It's not. Keep your kids in.

    The virus doesnt just kill 'old' people



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭Hobgoblin11


    Comforting words....
    sorry, Ive clearly been watching the news too much!

    and i forgot to mention favelas around the world and refugees!

    Dundalk, Co. Louth



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,923 ✭✭✭Bananaleaf


    The worldometer website is now providing a link for Ireland, with stats specific to our figures

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/ireland/


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,596 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    I'd expect 500 new cases for this Friday.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 816 ✭✭✭Macdarack


    Dont worry it'll be over soon. God just got the call

    The-Pope-says-asked-God-stop-coronavirus-epidemic

    Why would God allow this plague, maybe he did it, but its confusing, the most devoted of his sheep would be the over 80s but why does he target them, or allow it to kill them, his most loyal followers? Doesn't make sense. Just doesn't.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 816 ✭✭✭Macdarack


    I'd expect 500 new cases for this Friday.

    Friday 6 days time? In Ireland?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭Hobgoblin11


    Macdarack wrote: »
    Why would God allow this plague, maybe he did it, but its confusing, the most devoted of his sheep would be the over 80s but why does he target them, or allow it to kill them, his most loyal followers? Doesn't make sense. Just doesn't.

    god is omnipotent









    also hes a human creation :)

    Dundalk, Co. Louth



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,026 ✭✭✭Kaisr Sose


    Andrea B. wrote: »
    Crowd still here on Adverts scaremongering and profiteering.

    I assume face masks and hand sanitizer. Adverts and Done Deal should delist these type ads. Amazon, ebay, facebook have removed/banned new listings for masks etc. where price gouging is going on, false claims beinf made, or scaremongering used. In the UK, misleading ads about facemasks offering protection have been sanctioned by Advertising Standards.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/12/amazon-blocks-new-sale-listings-of-face-masks-hand-sanitizer.html

    Ireland needs to act here too. Boards.ie is part of a grouo of companies which includes Done Deal and Adverts.ie. It would be nice if they took action. High quailty facemasks are needed on the frontline


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 445 ✭✭iwillyeah1234


    gozunda wrote: »
    For any parents of children or teenagers - who think it's ok for them to go and hang out ...

    It's not. Keep your kids in.

    The virus doesnt just kill 'old' people



    They need to start releasing videos like that from NHS hospitals. There’s one in London that filled up yesterday. It’s the only way to really get the message across.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 445 ✭✭iwillyeah1234


    Boris decides to close the pubs - and what do the Brits do?

    Head to the pubs before they’re closed
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8136757/Drinkers-enjoy-final-pint-start-panic-buying-alcohol-UK-WIDE-pub-lockdown.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,852 ✭✭✭Glenbhoy


    otnomart wrote: »
    Research has established the samples from Italy are all related to Bavaria Patient 1 (shortened in BavPat1)
    Source: https://nextstrain.org/


    The patient in Bavaria was infected by a colleague from China.
    Article from the New England Journal of Medicine
    https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.105...d-mnX3d9F_WRzM


    Germany initially assumed they had fully contained the Bavaria outbreak in January - but now we know they didn't.



    That research is hypothetical and doesn't stand up to scrutiny. However the virus got to Italy, it seems fairly certain it has been there well in advance of bavpat1 infection. It's probable that persons with no to very mild symptoms simply spread the virus unknowingly, this isn't a conspiracy trying to single out one group or the other, it's how the most successful viruses have always spread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,344 ✭✭✭Longing


    Macdarack wrote: »
    Why would God allow this plague, maybe he did it, but its confusing, the most devoted of his sheep would be the over 80s but why does he target them, or allow it to kill them, his most loyal followers? Doesn't make sense. Just doesn't.

    Maybe God allowed the pandemic for man's sins. So he allowed Satan to go ahead.

    God will see his faithful in these troubled times. Who call out to him.

    God is all love he does not target anyone. Sin kills man.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,621 ✭✭✭Ninthlife


    Totally dodgy. He will probably blame it on gay people, not the person we would want in charge at all. People need to think about the stuff they spout.

    Before you climb on your political high horse read exactly what I said

    An individual like him, not Putin per se but someone not afraid to make decisions.

    ****s sake every day someone just lurks waiting to jump on posts to make political statements..think about the stuff you spout yourself


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,144 ✭✭✭amadangomor


    Boris decides to close the pubs - and what do the Brits do?

    Head to the pubs before they’re closed
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8136757/Drinkers-enjoy-final-pint-start-panic-buying-alcohol-UK-WIDE-pub-lockdown.html

    Should have shut them at 8pm or a similar early time. People really are thick.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭Hobgoblin11


    Longing wrote: »
    Maybe God allowed the pandemic for man's sins. So he allowed Satan to go ahead.

    God will see his faithful in these troubled times. Who call out to him.

    God is all love he does not target anyone. Sin kills man.

    if sin kills man, show me the evidence of a man who succumbed to sin?

    Dundalk, Co. Louth



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,560 ✭✭✭Reckless Abandonment


    Thialand is interesting. They had 45 cases about 4 weeks ago . Now its 411 . I wonder how their health system is holding up. Using italy as an example they should be over ran with it by now.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,144 ✭✭✭amadangomor


    Ninthlife wrote: »
    Before you climb on your political high horse read exactly what I said

    An individual like him, not Putin per se but someone not afraid to make decisions.

    ****s sake every day someone just lurks waiting to jump on posts to make political statements..think about the stuff you spout yourself

    You said no BS and I gave an example in my previous post that he is absolutely full of BS. Our democratic government are doing a good job. It's idiot members of the public not playing ball that is causing issues.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    Boris decides to close the pubs - and what do the Brits do?

    Head to the pubs before they’re closed
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8136757/Drinkers-enjoy-final-pint-start-panic-buying-alcohol-UK-WIDE-pub-lockdown.html

    A collective mindset of The Great British spirit at work.

    Half expecting the Grant sisters to release twitter videos full of false facts highlighting how great they are and how they will beat the virus through their Britishness.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,344 ✭✭✭Longing


    if sin kills man, show me the evidence of a man who succumbed to sin?

    The Bible all the evidence is there my friend.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,422 ✭✭✭italodisco


    _Kaiser_ wrote: »
    I wouldn't say its very effective in even that sense. Was out for a spin around the town yesterday and everyone seemed to be just doing their daily business with little regard for distancing. Few women wearing scarves over their faces but that's about all. Shops and streets as busy as usual.

    On some practicalities.. How are people approaching things like getting a haircut, getting tyres for their cars or a service - all of which I need :) - given that a lot of businesses are shutting down now

    I'm a fiend for getting a back and sides every 2 weeks, I'm not too comfortable about going to a barbers now, even if it's empty I don't know how many people the barber has been in contact with.

    I'll look like a viking by the time this is over


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,081 ✭✭✭GetWithIt


    Boris decides to close the pubs - and what do the Brits do?

    Head to the pubs before they’re closed
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8136757/Drinkers-enjoy-final-pint-start-panic-buying-alcohol-UK-WIDE-pub-lockdown.html
    Ha ha. Silly Brits. We’d never do that


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭Hobgoblin11


    Longing wrote: »
    The Bible all the evidence is there my friend.

    the new or old release?

    Dundalk, Co. Louth



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,596 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    Macdarack wrote: »
    Friday 6 days time? In Ireland?


    Yes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 496 ✭✭Maxpfizer



    I think there's a real problem with people receiving mixed messages here.
    From the government, the media and each other.

    If someone with the ability to work from home goes down to Tesco and stocks up a months worth of food then that person can completely isolate themselves for a month. Or they can do it for 2 weeks or 10 days if that seems more reasonable. Either way, stock up for X days and you can have complete social distancing for X days.

    So if that person is buying into the idea that it's too dangerous to be around people, or even to be outside at all, then stockpiling is seen as an absolute necessity. Go to Tesco once then stay indoors for 2 weeks, a month, whatever.

    Can you really blame them?

    Mention on here that you are meeting a friend in the park and you'll get grief from people saying it isn't necessary and you should stay in etc.

    At the same time it's fine to go to a busy supermarket every 2 or 3 days because you're also a terrible person if you stock up on 2 weeks worth of food to stay away from others for a two week stretch.

    Don't go outside at all!
    Also don't buy a months worth of food so that you don't need to go outside!

    The only way to stay safe is to stay inside and away from other people!
    Also be sure to get yourself down to the supermarket every 4 or 5 days because hoarders are scum.

    The media winds people up into a frenzy making every trip outdoors seem like a massive, potentially terminal, risk and then turns right around and rips into people showing up at the supermarket at 6am thinking they will stock up and not need to leave home for a few weeks.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,144 ✭✭✭amadangomor


    italodisco wrote: »
    I'm a fiend for getting a back and sides every 2 weeks, I'm not too comfortable about going to a barbers now, even if it's empty I don't know how many people the barber has been in contact with.

    I'll look like a viking by the time this is over

    Surely barbers are all closed? Impossible to socially isolate from one! If a barber got it he would probably infect all his customers. The chances of him getting infected would be huge.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,621 ✭✭✭Ninthlife


    You said no BS and I gave an example in my previous post that he is absolutely full of BS. Our democratic government are doing a good job. It's idiot members of the public not playing ball that is causing issues.

    Jesus...here we go.

    Just to clarify I was talking about there being a specific issue, shops doubling prices on face masks. He made a no bull **** decision, revoke the license, set an example

    Im not commenting on anything else he has done or said just that his handling on that issue was commendable and in a crisis that kind of decision making can aave lives


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭Hobgoblin11


    Surely barbers are all closed? Impossible to socially isolate from one! If a barber got it he would probably infect all his customers. The chances of him getting infected would be huge.
    ever try giving a someone a haircut with a hazmut suit on? Its not easy

    Dundalk, Co. Louth



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭Rob A. Bank


    bb12 wrote: »
    it's late and i'm tired but having discussed this with several people today i'm now leaning more towards the idea that our government are indeed following the herd immunity agenda.

    a vaccine is nowhere near on the horizon despite what politicians say and promise...scientists have never been able to come up with any type of vaccine for other coronoviruses before, so this doesn't hold up much hope for one in this case and even if they did by some scientific breakthrough it could be years away..society just couldn't be shut down for that long without some serious social upheaval and unrest developing at some stage

    because they have left and still are leaving the borders open and basically don't have any real controls in place, it seems like they are allowing herd immunity by stealth...i guess the social distancing mantra for now is to slow down the icu cases but in the end i think they accept that a lot of vulnerable and old will die and there's not really anything anyone can do about it.

    An effective new or existing antiviral drug holds out more hope than a vaccine, I think.

    I am inclined to agree with you bb12 about their 'herd immunity by stealth' strategy. Sitting behind a table with 2 yellow coronavirus signs at Dublin airport was just window dressing. It was no way to defend the country against the introduction of this deadly virus.

    Then waiting for the numbers to rise, to some mystery state secret amount, before taking any sensible preventative measures was grossly negligent IMHO.

    Re-branding incarcerating the elderly as 'Cocooning', or in the UK as 'Shielding', is one of the worst modern examples of advertisers doublespeak... since George Orwell's book "1984".

    What happens to the elderly when they emerge from their 'cocooning' ?

    They have a one in five chance of dying when they get infected... Russian roulette odds are better.. at least it gives you a five out of six chance of survival.

    So disappointed with what is happening here...


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