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CoVid-19 Part IX - 785 cases ROI (3 deaths) 108 in NI (1 death) (20 March) *Read OP*

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  • #6752
    Jin luk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 389 ✭✭Jin luk


    During the 1918 pandemic young people was a big fatality,

    Was that like that from the the very start of it or did this start to happen after high numbers were infected and hospitals and field hospital were overcrowded??


  • #6753
    ShyMets
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,469 ✭✭✭ShyMets


    enricoh wrote: »
    How long are the pubs and clubs being told to close for anyone know? Or was it just until further notice? Thanks

    6 weeks minimum before they reopen and that's being optimistic


  • #6754
    tony1980
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,613 ✭✭✭tony1980


    The all Spanish flu was given that name as the Spainish media was the only media at the time allowed the freedom to report everything, unlike all other countries whose Govt didn't want the public to panic, etc and they had huge numbers infected and high death rates but in reality, all other countries did too but it just wasn't been reported.


  • #6755
    amadangomor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭amadangomor


    Will be interesting if any of the hardmen who were posting about being in the pub last weekend will post here if they happened to pick up something more than a dose of the Guinness scitters.


  • #6756
    skellig_rocks
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 130 ✭✭skellig_rocks


    joeguevara wrote: »
    skellig_rocks wrote: »
    joeguevara wrote: »
    Look at my post on 6728. It outlines every single one of Trumps lies. Mistruths. Refusal to take WHO tests as he was developing his own. Publicly promising millions of test to be available but never materialised. Declaring that it was fully contained and down to zero which meant people were not socially distancing and exposing themselves to infection without their knowledge.

    I did not comment about his other lies. I was only adding a bit of context related to his "Chinese virus" comment.


    joeguevara wrote: »
    Again you deliberately remove blame from Trump. Ok put it this way, if Bejing said that the US Army manufactured the virus. How many Americans were attacked.What impact did it have on fcucking anything. Tell me. Now, as I have asked before what impact does it have on US Asians, and indeed Asians all over the world.


    Either you are trolling or you just cannot answer a question. Every time I ask about the impact on US Asians you deflect to talking about something I never asked. I’m done.


    Can we Chinese people have a time machine and go back to 13 March and warn Trump about the impact? It is done, it is unfortunate, maybe it is the price we Asian people have to pay for China/US playing politics.



    The only way discrimination will not happen again in the future is make sure China don't make the same mistake again. (I was laughed at Dublin in 2003 during SARS crisis, long before Trump was the US president)


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  • #6757
    tony1980
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,613 ✭✭✭tony1980


    Jin luk wrote: »
    During the 1918 pandemic young people was a big fatality,

    Was that like that from the the very start of it or did this start to happen after high numbers were infected and hospitals and field hospital were overcrowded??

    The second wave was the worst. It affected mostly young but the second wave was the worst. Interestingly, San Francisco was the only City to listen to advice from the Public Health experts and prepared for it and got through it basically unscathed. When it finished, they all went back to daily life and it was forgotten about and then a third wave came and hit them bad.


  • #6758
    TheValeyard
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,392 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Jin luk wrote: »
    During the 1918 pandemic young people was a big fatality,

    Was that like that from the the very start of it or did this start to happen after high numbers were infected and hospitals and field hospital were overcrowded??

    Part of it was caused by the end of war parties and celebrations. Large groups of people together spread the virus very quickly.

    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



  • #6759
    frillyleaf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 801 ✭✭✭frillyleaf


    obi604 wrote: »
    Ah would you stop and get in the real world. My 4 year old bloody gets it. She really wants to play with her friends and go to play centres, play dates, school, to the park, playground, see grandparents etc.

    Even the other day 1 child was outside playing on her own and the 4 year old goes “I know I can’t go out and play with X because of the corona virus” etc.

    She is 4 and gets it

    I think you need to think beyond your own circumstances. A 4 year old is easier to manage then a teenager in a lot of ways. Firstly, they won’t be unsupervised so this alone means it is easier to control social distancing. I’m not saying kids don’t understand it but they don’t understand the consequences of not social distancing the way adults do - lack of ventilators, economy, collapse in health care system. And some parents are NOT stopping play dates, playgrounds, mixing with other kids.

    Are you honesty telling me you think all teenagers are responsible enough to understand the seriousness of this situation? No they are not. It’s up to adults to set rules for them.

    Do you think it’s responsible of parents expecting teenagers to remember at all times to social distance ? No it’s not - this is why teenagers should be at home and not out socialising in large groups.

    You fail to see that perhaps your children and my children understand, to an extent, they need to social distance but there is no way most of them could be left to their own devices to do this.

    Would you trust your four year old to remember at all times to adhere to strict social distancing with your supervision? no you wouldn’t so you take responsibility for your children and keep them away from other kids. This applies to a lot of teenagers too.

    MOST people I know aren’t letting their teenagers mix with friends unsupervised. It is the parents responsibility to keep them out of groups and off the street and some are not. Some adults aren’t even adhering to the guidelines!

    Some children also don’t have parental guidance due to patents simply not caring.

    If people don’t comply parks and outdoor areas will start to be closed. If people don’t cop on this will be needed. We’ve been warned and eventually we will be told we must stay indoors if social distancing isn’t taken seriously by everyone


  • #6760
    Jin luk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 389 ✭✭Jin luk


    tony1980 wrote: »
    The second wave was the worst. It affected mostly young but the second wave was the worst. Interestingly, San Francisco was the only City to listen to advice from the Public Health experts and prepared for it and got through it basically unscathed. When it finished, they all went back to daily life and it was forgotten about and then a third wave came and hit them bad.

    Scary to think this could go on as long and become a killer to the young too,

    In terms of timeline, were at the beginning of wave 1


  • #6761
    Jin luk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 389 ✭✭Jin luk


    TheValeyard wrote: »
    Part of it was caused by the end of war parties and celebrations. Large groups of people together spread the virus very quickly.

    And our problem today is how easy it is to get from one side of earth to the other.


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  • #6762
    joeguevara
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,244 ✭✭✭joeguevara


    skellig_rocks wrote: »
    joeguevara wrote: »
    skellig_rocks wrote: »
    joeguevara wrote: »
    Look at my post on 6728. It outlines every single one of Trumps lies. Mistruths. Refusal to take WHO tests as he was developing his own. Publicly promising millions of test to be available but never materialised. Declaring that it was fully contained and down to zero which meant people were not socially distancing and exposing themselves to infection without their knowledge.

    I did not comment about his other lies. I was only adding a bit of context related to his "Chinese virus" comment.





    Can we Chinese people have a time machine and go back to 13 March and warn Trump about the impact? It is done, it is unfortunate, maybe it is the price we Asian people have to pay for China/US playing politics.



    The only way discrimination will not happen again in the future is make sure China don't make the same mistake again. (I was laughed at Dublin in 2003 during SARS crisis, long before Trump was the US president)

    Do you hear yourself. ‘ The only way discrimination will not happen again in the future is make sure China don't make the same mistake again’. Many of US Asians have nothing got to do with fcucking China. They are born and raised in the US. They are US citizens. Pay US taxes. Have US children. Now, you are saying that the only way that these US people can not be discriminated against, by racist Americans after a moron US president specifically put them in the line of fire, is if China don’t make the same mistake again. Really scraping the barrel here.


  • #6763
    peddlelies
    Closed Accounts Posts: 840 ✭✭✭peddlelies


    joeguevara wrote: »
    skellig_rocks wrote: »
    joeguevara wrote: »
    skellig_rocks wrote: »
    joeguevara wrote: »
    blahblahblah

    Why don't you feck off to the politics forum if you want to complain about Trump, this shíte is getting annoying. The poster you're quoting has been candid in his responses.


  • #6764
    frillyleaf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 801 ✭✭✭frillyleaf


    tony1980 wrote: »
    The all Spanish flu was given that name as the Spainish media was the only media at the time allowed the freedom to report everything, unlike all other countries whose Govt didn't want the public to panic, etc and they had huge numbers infected and high death rates but in reality, all other countries did too but it just wasn't been reported.

    Yeah interestingly one theory is it started from a pig farm in Kansas and spread initially through military. It spread quickly due to over crowded conditions and people living in close proximity in army camps due to cold weather. It then spread through ports and train lines. I’m so grateful that children seem to be generally spared with Covid19. The fear of children suffering seriously from it would bring a whole different level of fear


  • #6765
    frillyleaf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 801 ✭✭✭frillyleaf


    Jin luk wrote: »
    And our problem today is how easy it is to get from one side of earth to the other.

    Yes with Spanish flu travel was limited but it’s not now


  • #6766
    The One Doctor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,339 ✭✭✭The One Doctor


    Jin luk wrote: »
    Scary to think this could go on as long and become a killer to the young too,

    In terms of timeline, were at the beginning of wave 1

    Ok, this is nonsense. Unless you have access to a time machine, you have no evidence to suggest anything of the sort. Spanish flu and COVID 19 are not related to each other. Spanish flu happened at the birth of the science of virology, and COVID 19 is 102 years later. Please don't extrapolate one from the other.

    You are just scaremongering if you do.


  • #6767
    joeguevara
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,244 ✭✭✭joeguevara


    peddlelies wrote: »
    joeguevara wrote: »
    skellig_rocks wrote: »
    joeguevara wrote: »
    skellig_rocks wrote: »

    Why don't you feck off to the politics forum if you want to complain about Trump, this shíte is getting annoying. The poster you're quoting has been candid in his responses.

    Apologies. Agreed. I just have family in the US and it is so worrying. But it is irrelevant to this thread and it won’t happen again.


  • #6768
    Jin luk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 389 ✭✭Jin luk


    The One Doctor wrote: »
    Ok, this is nonsense. Unless you have access to a time machine, you have no evidence to suggest anything of the sort. Spanish flu and COVID 19 are not related to each other. Spanish flu happened at the birth of the science of virology, and COVID 19 is 102 years later. Please don't extrapolate one from the other.

    You are just scaremongering if you do.

    What is with people on this these days,

    I said were at the beggining of the timeline not comparing them at all, would be silly too considering this is coronavirus and that was influenza. the last major pandemic was 1918 thats why its referred so often

    Best thing for youre sort is to stop jumping down peoples throats whos trying to have an adult discussion.


  • #6769
    kona
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,525 ✭✭✭kona


    Macdarack wrote: »
    There's a case that Spanish flu which killed between 50,000,000 to 100,000,000 people should be called kansas /American flu.

    Theres also a case that it should be called chinese flu also.


  • #6770
    peddlelies
    Closed Accounts Posts: 840 ✭✭✭peddlelies


    joeguevara wrote: »

    Apologies. Agreed. I just have family in the US and it is so worrying. But it is irrelevant to this thread and it won’t happen again.

    I'm in the same boat, my brothers lives in Chicago and gone into lock-down.

    Trump botched the handling of the breakout badly, we can all agree on that.


  • #6771
    d-gal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,787 ✭✭✭d-gal


    Has anyone been paid yet regarding the emergency jobseekers? I’m wondering with the sheer volume of people applying will it be weeks before people receive payment?


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  • #6772
    Funsterdelux
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Funsterdelux


    Dont worry it'll be over soon. God just got the call

    The-Pope-says-asked-God-stop-coronavirus-epidemic


  • #6773
    frillyleaf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 801 ✭✭✭frillyleaf


    Jin luk wrote: »
    What is with people on this these days,

    I said were at the beggining of the timeline not comparing them at all, would be silly too considering this is coronavirus and that was influenza. the last major pandemic was 1918 thats why its referred so often

    Best thing for youre sort is to stop jumping down peoples throats whos trying to have an adult discussion.

    People are so hostile aren’t they? You made a good point.


  • #6774
    skellig_rocks
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 130 ✭✭skellig_rocks


    Some experiences we can learn from Asian countries - Taiwan, Hong Kong, Singapore, South Korea and China:

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-51970379


  • #6775
    Sephiroth_dude
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 81,134 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sephiroth_dude




  • #6776
    Duke of Url
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,662 ✭✭✭Duke of Url


    https://twitter.com/thakhani_r/status/1241287570077728769?s=21


  • #6777
    ceadaoin.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,623 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    peddlelies wrote: »
    I'm in the same boat, my brothers lives in Chicago and gone into lock-down.

    Trump botched the handling of the breakout badly, we can all agree on that.

    "Lockdown" isnt that bad. You can still go out to get essentials, everyone is observing social distance. It's not as scary as it sounds. Try not to worry too much, people are taking it seriously.


  • #6778
    coastwatch
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 909 ✭✭✭coastwatch


    kona wrote: »
    Theres also a case that it should be called chinese flu also.

    Or French Flu


  • #6779
    GM228
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,922 ✭✭✭GM228


    Jin luk wrote: »
    What is with people on this these days,

    I said were at the beggining of the timeline not comparing them at all, would be silly too considering this is coronavirus and that was influenza. the last major pandemic was 1918 thats why its referred so often

    Best thing for youre sort is to stop jumping down peoples throats whos trying to have an adult discussion.

    HIV was actually the last major pandemic, though it was later reclassified as an epidemic by the WHO due to the widespread distribution of effective treatment.


  • #6780
    mloc123
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,454 ✭✭✭mloc123


    ceadaoin. wrote: »
    "Lockdown" isnt that bad. You can still go out to get essentials, everyone is observing social distance. It's not as scary as it sounds. Try not to worry too much, people are taking it seriously.

    Talking to work colleagues in Chicago yesterday... "Lockdown" as they are calling it is basically what we have had here all week.


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  • #6781
    Bob24
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,905 ✭✭✭✭Bob24


    skellig_rocks wrote: »
    The term "Chinese virus" is only used by Trump after the allegation tweet by Chinese foreign spokesperson on 13 March 2020.


    Yeah I didn’t say anything different. My point was that Trump started blaming China (and Europe) for the US’ failure to handle the situation before that tweet.

    So it isn’t necessarily China which kicked-off the blaming game (which btw in my opinion makes both sides look rather silly).


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