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CoVid-19 Part IX - 785 cases ROI (3 deaths) 108 in NI (1 death) (20 March) *Read OP*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,137 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    wakka12 wrote: »
    They would, they would have antibodies present that prove they had been infected by it

    That makes no sense, by that reasoning anyone that recovers from this will always test positive.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    https://covidtracking.com/data/
    USA now tested almost 140,000 people,a substantial and rapid improvement on their scale of testing


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,029 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    gozunda wrote: »
    As said it's not a fracking competition!

    Large gangs of teenagers and kids 20+ observed today.

    How many large gangs of old ones have you observed exactly?

    The amount of ****e on social media being pushed that only old people can get Coronsvirus is staggering.

    Those young gob****es need a kick up the hole and if their parents wont stop them - then I reckon a curfew and lockdown will...

    Hard to do that in the current climate of sybil liberdees, 'ah shur god luv dem' hard luck stories and kids will be kids type excuses.
    What to do when parents don't cough up a fine?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,295 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    wakka12 wrote: »
    They do, community transmission describes exactly that, picking it up off strangers
    There were 60 community cases in Ireland two days ago, presumably more now

    Not necessarily 'casual' contact though. Working alongside someone, being in a hospital or nursing home, living with someone.....all these count as community transmission.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    niallo27 wrote: »
    That makes no sense, by that reasoning anyone that recovers from this will always test positive.

    They can do tests to prove that somebody had been infected by it, an antibody tests.

    https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/03/new-blood-tests-antibodies-could-show-true-scale-coronavirus-pandemic
    There is going to be widespread community testing of exactly this in order to gauge the true scale of the pandemic, how many mild cases went undetected.
    But your theory that many positive cases on the ship went completely undetected during testing because many people have immunity is not possible.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,697 ✭✭✭Lisha


    Thanks, was thinking it might have been ahead of Dublin and Cork per capita but couldn't be arsed doing the calculations. Hopefully just early days in terms of the stats and not a sign of a cluster in Westmeath.

    I’d imagine that a lot of Westmeath people travel to Dublin for work, which might partly explain why numbers are similar to Dublin


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,235 ✭✭✭✭Cee-Jay-Cee


    Jenbach110 wrote: »
    Good god the break down of society.

    Were you never 14?

    Bitta jostling among teenagers rewarded with an assault.

    Wow just wow

    You sound like your about 16 maybe 17.

    14 year old do not behave like 14 year olds did 20 or 30 years ago. They have no fear or respect for anyone. A good hard thump would do many of them the world of good just to let them know that they are not in charge, that on their own they are mainly pathetic little weak pricks and that they have a lot of growing up to do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 326 ✭✭Level 42


    Wearing masks is ridiculous unless your working in a hospital


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 439 ✭✭paddythere


    Level 42 wrote: »
    I think some people think they can get it if someone sneezes in the same aisle in the supermarket
    wut?
    Of course you CAN get it if someone sneezes near you


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭amadangomor


    niallo27 wrote: »
    That makes no sense, by that reasoning anyone that recovers from this will always test positive.

    No they are testing for RNA now which involves replicating the virus. This will only be positive if there is active virus in the body.

    Antibody testing will see if your body has made antibodies against the virus, which proves the body was exposed to the virus at some point.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,475 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    Strazdas wrote: »
    Interesting stuff : nobody seems to have picked up the virus through very casual contact like being in a shop or using public transport. It seems to be more along the lines of prolonged exposure to a person with the virus.
    that only relates to clusters, not sure what a cluster is, more then 1 more then 2?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 876 ✭✭✭ITman88


    gozunda wrote: »
    It's not a competition!

    Saw with my own eyes - gangs of teenagers out together in close proximity All over town. and not giving a flying fuk. Social distancing my rear end.

    But how the fuk do you figure that other 'older generation's are to blame exactly? Groups of young gobhites out congregating because they dont believe they can be infected or carry infection to anyone else!!!

    They need a kick up the hole as do the parents who are allowing this type of behaviour to continue.

    I know when I was in my teens I would in my f€&k of paid any heed to something like this. You feel invincible at that age, my biggest interest was the opposite sex.
    It doesn’t make teenagers some sort of evil cretins, it’s the way they are programmed. They are essentially adult sized kids, and we were all once like them. I wouldn’t fancy in the slightest trying to parent teenage kids during this. Some of the comments I’ve seen on here are ridiculous, teens ain’t that easy managed


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 439 ✭✭paddythere


    Level 42 wrote: »
    Wearing masks is ridiculous unless your working in a hospital
    Why?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 326 ✭✭Level 42


    paddythere wrote: »
    Why?

    Because it doesn't work


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,383 ✭✭✭S.M.B.


    Level 42 wrote: »
    You know you have to be 15 mins with an infected person to get it. If someone was with an infected person for 15mins then ya it's possible.
    I think some people think they can get it if someone sneezes in the same aisle in the supermarket
    I thought you were nearly more likely to get it in the latter scenario than the former.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 439 ✭✭paddythere


    ITman88 wrote: »
    I know when I was in my teens I would in my f€&k of paid any heed to something like this. You feel invincible at that age, my biggest interest was the opposite sex.
    It doesn’t make teenagers some sort of evil cretins, it’s the way they are programmed. They are essentially adult sized kids, and we were all once like them. I wouldn’t fancy in the slightest trying to parent teenage kids during this. Some of the comments I’ve seen on here are ridiculous, teens ain’t that easy managed
    If they were told teenagers have a 25% mortality rate you can bet your bollix they wouldnt feel invincible


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,250 ✭✭✭Seamai


    Level 42 wrote: »
    You know you have to be 15 mins with an infected person to get it. If someone was with an infected person for 15mins then ya it's possible.
    I think some people think they can get it if someone sneezes in the same aisle in the supermarket

    But if you were relatively close and they sneezed into the surrounding air, surely that would considered high risk?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    Level 42 wrote: »
    Because it doesn't work

    Why do they wear them in hospitals then!?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,137 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    wakka12 wrote: »
    They can do tests to prove that somebody had been infected by it, an antibody tests.

    Ok but the figures you quoted, the negative tests would not have picked up anybody that had it and recovered. Over 2k could have it on that boat and we will never know. I'm just saying only 20% getting it seems a bit on the small scale. I'm just looking for reasons to be positive.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    Level 42 wrote: »
    Because it doesn't work

    Why do they wear them in hospitals then!?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 439 ✭✭paddythere


    Level 42 wrote: »
    Because it doesn't work
    But it works for doctors and nurses?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭amadangomor


    Strazdas wrote: »
    Not necessarily 'casual' contact though. Working alongside someone, being in a hospital or nursing home, living with someone.....all these count as community transmission.

    I thought community was when there was no known reason.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,295 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    paddythere wrote: »
    wut?
    Of course you CAN get it if someone sneezes near you

    Theoretically, though there seems to be some debate as to how high the risk is in that scenario. If it was ultra contagious, millions or even tens of millions would already have the virus.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,077 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    Hard to do that in the current climate of sybil liberdees, 'ah shur god luv dem' hard luck stories and kids will be kids type excuses.
    What to do when parents don't cough up a fine?

    Take their car and crush it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,697 ✭✭✭Lisha


    paddythere wrote: »
    wut?
    Of course you CAN get it if someone sneezes near you

    The doctor on the ama thread gets his groceries delivered and won’t touch the groceries fir 3-6 hours , after which he sanitises each items packaging. From that I’m inferring thst if I walk into someone’s sneeze cloud them I can get the virus if the have it.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    Are the UK going to pay up to 80% of people's wages?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 326 ✭✭Level 42


    UK a week behind my god what a disgrace


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 876 ✭✭✭ITman88


    paddythere wrote: »
    If they were told teenagers have a 25% mortality rate you can bet your bollix they wouldnt feel invincible

    Oh of course.
    Is that the mortality rate?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 790 ✭✭✭forgodssake


    You sound like your about 16 maybe 17.

    14 year old do not behave like 14 year olds did 20 or 30 years ago. They have no fear or respect for anyone. A good hard thump would do many of them the world of good just to let them know that they are not in charge, that on their own they are mainly pathetic little weak pricks and that they have a lot of growing up to do.

    Agree. I was so proud of my two younger kids today..they went out to play on the green in the estate we live and came back in after 5 minutes to tell me another child had come out so they wanted him to have his time to play safely. They watched by the window until the other child was gone before they went back out to play together . We have had many many conversations regarding the outbreak and while they dont fully understand it , they know not to do something they have been asked not to do.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,109 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    wakka12 wrote: »
    https://covidtracking.com/data/
    USA now tested almost 140,000 people,a substantial and rapid improvement on their scale of testing

    They are setting up a huge testing site at FedEx Field in Maryland under the auspices of the military although many will suspect that the other side of testing will be military enforcement of a lockdown at some stage.

    You'd imagine a matter of days before cities are put on full lockdown.

    Up until now little or no enforcement.


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