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Star Trek: Picard - Amazon Prime [** POSSIBLE SPOILERS **]

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,264 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    Could be dead this time next week so I might as well watch what I can.

    Good point. When I that first I thought you were going to say it could be gone because of this pandemic but ye being dead would be worse. Still going to wait myself. Sure if it comes that I have to self isolate I will watch it then.

    Oh I am AMKC and I plan to still be alive this time next week:cool:

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,069 ✭✭✭Xertz


    Star Trek vs reality ... not much difference anymore.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Could be dead this time next week so I might as well watch what I can.

    Been true since the day you were born; if we knuckle down and take things seriously, no reason why we won't all live to old age & "Star Trek: Burnham", a sequel series charting 70 something actor Sonequa Martin-Green returning to her role for "one last mission" :D

    As glib as it is to say, don't panic, take a breath. This too shall pass.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 268 ✭✭tromtipp


    pixelburp wrote: »
    Been true since the day you were born; if we knuckle down and take things seriously, no reason why we won't all live to old age & "Star Trek: Burnham", a sequel series charting 70 something actor Sonequa Martin-Green returning to her role for "one last mission" :D

    As glib as it is to say, don't panic, take a breath. This too shall pass.
    God between us and all harm, the idea of being whatever is the equivalent of on-line in my late 90s, saying 'I remember TOS when it was new' as I attempt to defend the latest offering from the baby haters is . . . . rather encouraging actually.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,809 ✭✭✭AllForIt


    Before I watch the latest installment I have to say I really appreciate the escapism Picard provides in these weird times.

    I'm also glad this is released on a weekly basis, rather than that awful binge watching.

    I will also say that I am enjoying this much more than Discovery. Not that that would be hard but all the same.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭368100


    I like the show but am I the only one that's kind of underwhelmed by the CGI ship scenes so far? Don't know why really but thought they'd be more impressive


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,254 ✭✭✭EltonJohn69


    So far, with one episode left, I would give the show a solid 8... and I agree binging isn’t the way to go


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    I've enjoyed this on balance. It's not top tier television but sometimes it doesn't need to be. The writing has been pretty poor and Kurtzmans era can be defined by clumsy emotional storytelling; overall though, I've liked the adventure, the mystery and most of the characters. I think it being Trek, there's a temptation to really dive into the weeds for critical analysis and I'd openly wonder if there's an aspect of "hate watching" among its viewers. Wouldn't be the first time it happened with a modern TV show


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,618 ✭✭✭uncleoswald


    pixelburp wrote: »
    I think it being Trek, there's a temptation to really dive into the weeds for critical analysis and I'd openly wonder if there's an aspect of "hate watching" among its viewers. Wouldn't be the first time it happened with a modern TV show
    I'm definitely hate watching it at this point and don't see a problem with that. It's not like I started to watch it with any intention other then hoping it was really good.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    I'm definitely hate watching it at this point and don't see a problem with that. It's not like I started to watch it with any intention other then hoping it was really good.

    Your choice of course, but would you not just spend your free time watching something you actively enjoy? I'm not above hate watching, I did so with Walking Dead til I realised I was wasting my time on something I hated. Life's too short either way, and I was getting wound up needlessly. It's obvious some folk really hate this and the general approach to modern Trek so it's like ... go do something you enjoy *shrug* :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,618 ✭✭✭uncleoswald


    pixelburp wrote: »
    Your choice of course, but would you not just spend your free time watching something you actively enjoy? I'm not above hate watching, I did so with Walking Dead til I realised I was wasting my time on something I hated. Life's too short either way, and I was getting wound up needlessly. It's obvious some folk really hate this and the general approach to modern Trek so it's like ... go do something you enjoy *shrug* :)
    I liked the Walking Dead, got bored by it, hate watched it for awhile, and then got bored by that, and gave up. I think one of the differences is Picard is only 9 episodes so not a huge commitment. Secondly I have a built-in interest in the world, I want and hope it to be good.

    I think there is two types of hate watching, the type that is enjoyable and the type that is not. If it gets to the late period Walking Dead type hate you can be sure I'll switch off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,382 ✭✭✭FFVII


    I think this trek hate thing is only in a few of your heads on here.

    Crazy chat, take it to pm.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,809 ✭✭✭AllForIt


    AMKC wrote: »
    Anyone else holding of on watching the last two episode's till they are both out?

    I am.

    You didn't :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,382 ✭✭✭FFVII


    I'll watch it first Thursday and let ye know what happens.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,264 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    AllForIt wrote: »
    You didn't :P

    What can I say. There was spoilers on FB and You-Tube so I decided it was safer to watch it than have it ruined for me.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,264 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    So we are nearly at the end of the first season of Picard. Not long to wait now. i see CBS are making the series free for the month of April although I am not sure if that apply 's here. Can't wait to see how they end the season. Will it be a cliffhanger? I hope it is.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Site Banned Posts: 2,799 ✭✭✭Bobtheman


    Overall I like it. Picard has moved on. He is no longer in his prime. He is more human. It was great to see Troi/Riker/Brent Spiner even though Datas family shows feck all coherence in terms of the canon. Im also a sucker in terms of beautiful brunettes( Robot girl)
    As noted a few times-its good to see the TREK universe moving forward in time rather than another bloody prequel.
    This actually feels way more trek than DISCOVERY. Everybody in Discovery came across as poo faced or constipated. Take your pick.
    Its great to see decent character development and humour. Picards ex Number one is a tonic as is the ships captain
    Yes they went overboard with the hologram versions of him but I like him. He is supportive of JL-and his character fits


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,809 ✭✭✭AllForIt


    AMKC wrote: »
    What can I say. There was spoilers on FB and You-Tube so I decided it was safer to watch it than have it ruined for me.

    What would be nice is a special extended final episode - especially given the series is so short.

    Episode 9 didn't feel like a special part-1'er. It just felt like a normal episode.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,853 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    the consensus seems to be a heavily flawed show, the funniest observation I came across was that they did a screen grab of this and built the show around it lol


    "The Cylons Synths were created by man. They evolved. They rebelled. There are many copies. And they have a plan."

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,888 ✭✭✭AtomicHorror


    silverharp wrote: »
    the consensus seems to be a heavily flawed show, the funniest observation I came across was that they did a screen grab of this and built the show around it lol


    "The Cylons Synths were created by man. They evolved. They rebelled. There are many copies. And they have a plan."

    Aside from the evolving bit, the rest of that didn't really pan out. I mean, you can see why people would assume it was going to from earlier episodes, but it didn't.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,322 ✭✭✭Firblog


    I do believe that I have seen every episode of every Star Trek series at least once, I'd say I've seen each episode of Next Generation 2 to 3 times on average. I do believe I will never watch any of these Picard episodes ever again, total waste of time, even during a time when we're not allowed out of the house to do anything else I feel I could have put the time it took to watch them to much better use - say hoovering the insulation in the attic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,481 ✭✭✭Rawr


    Firblog wrote: »
    I do believe that I have seen every episode of every Star Trek series at least once, I'd say I've seen each episode of Next Generation 2 to 3 times on average. I do believe I will never watch any of these Picard episodes ever again, total waste of time, even during a time when we're not allowed out of the house to do anything else I feel I could have put the time it took to watch them to much better use - say hoovering the insulation in the attic.

    This it a thing about a lot of new Trek for me too. I think the only Trek I've seen more than once in the past few years was the 2009 Star Trek movie.

    I have never since felt any drive to re-watch any of the Kelvin-verse sequels, nor Discovery. Although Picard felt like an improvement I already know that I probably won't want to rewatch this. Especially now that I know how the whole story arc of Season 1 is ended.

    I have rewatched TNG, DS9, and hell even the odd Voyager. The odd Enterprise episode even got a re-watch...but that was even rarer for me.

    Discovery and Picard are likely not going to be rewatched by me. They both kind of suffer from having their seasons being built up to climatic final episode, and then making a dog's dinner of that finale, thus tainting the whole season for me. It's hard to be invested in the journey if the destination is just so disappointing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    I don't think "rewatchability" is a problem unique to Trek though. We live in an age where there has never been so much "content" on offer. You look at Netflix where there's about a dozen new shows out every month. YouTube is continuously shoving suggestions down our throats. TV doesn't have any permanence anymore - just consume, consume, consume and jump to the next viral sensation. Don't think about what you just watched, here's a new show to binge! Look how quickly Game of Thrones dropped from the zeitgeist the moment it finished - controversial ending notwithstanding.

    To my mind, if something didn't already exist in our own personal cultural spaces prior to the digital age & "Peak TV', then it struggles to keep itself within that space of "just one more go around the block". It's fair to say that most of us here had a pre-existing liking or love of Trek in the first place: Enterprise finished just on the very cusp of the digital age, but still very much in that era when the weekly episode was something unique, something special. Now, Picard and Discovery are just another show.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,778 ✭✭✭California Dreamer


    Wasn't a fan of Alison Pill but only because I found her character in The Newsroom to be really annoying so I was trying to seperate that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,322 ✭✭✭Firblog


    pixelburp wrote: »
    I don't think "rewatchability" is a problem unique to Trek though. We live in an age where there has never been so much "content" on offer. You look at Netflix where there's about a dozen new shows out every month....


    The reason I wouldn't rewatch Picard has nothing to do with the amount of new material coming out on all the different platforms.. I won't watch it again because it was sh1te. I am a bit of a trekkie fan, but you'd have to be deluded if you thought that Picard was even a 3/10 sci fi show.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,751 ✭✭✭marcbrophy


    I'm not deluded and I enjoyed the show!
    I've had my fun and that's all that matters!
    If you don't like it, you can swivel :D


  • Posts: 7,852 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I’ve watched Discovery a few times but I don’t think I would this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,264 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    Rawr wrote: »
    This it a thing about a lot of new Trek for me too. I think the only Trek I've seen more than once in the past few years was the 2009 Star Trek movie.

    I have never since felt any drive to re-watch any of the Kelvin-verse sequels, nor Discovery. Although Picard felt like an improvement I already know that I probably won't want to rewatch this. Especially now that I know how the whole story arc of Season 1 is ended.

    I have rewatched TNG, DS9, and hell even the odd Voyager. The odd Enterprise episode even got a re-watch...but that was even rarer for me.

    I think the only Trek I've seen more than once in the past few years was the 2009 Star Trek movie.

    Star Trek Beyond ain't too bad. Its probably the most Star Trek of all the Kelvin verse films. I agree with the one in the middle do its terrible.

    A pity as it could have been much better or even great. So many characters and enemies from TOS that they could have used like Charlie X, or Nomad, or the Doomsday machine but instead they make a crappy reboot of what is to most Trekkes the best film ever. .

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,177 ✭✭✭Liamalone


    A fairly poor series overall, wouldn't be bothered if there wasn't a second series.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,264 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    [QUOTE=ReginaldSmythV; Discovery a few times but I don’t think I would this.[/QUOTE]

    I am the opposite. I watched Discovery season 1 once but could not watch it a 2nd time. Maybe the 2nd season I might rewatch sometime but only when I can fast forward by the parts I don't like.
    I will watch Picard a 2nd time do and while there is parts in it that I did not like there is good parts too it too and some really good episodes too. I might even buy it when it comes out to buy.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



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