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CoVid-19 Part IX - 785 cases ROI (3 deaths) 108 in NI (1 death) (20 March) *Read OP*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21 Mollycam


    Throat is sore , like it is nearly closed up , chills and flu feeling but no temperature. Cough is not as bad today .

    Have u been called yet ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,987 ✭✭✭ironingbored


    Breakdown of Italian numbers by region. Still very much centred in Lombardia.

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    Piedmont had 840 cases last week.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 911 ✭✭✭coastwatch


    J. Marston wrote: »
    The way I'm looking at it is 3 deaths from 683. A mortality rate of 0.43%.

    That's great in my book. It will increase but I'm confident we have a handle on things.

    At 0.43%, that would result in over 11000 deaths if just 50% of the population became infected.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 98 ✭✭zvone


    comment from Reddit:

    "Italian here, we've been locked down for almost two weeks now and I swear to god every time I quickly go out to do some shopping I've seen loads of old people just causally hanging around with their ****ing dogs, no face mask, no distance, no gloves. We've been halting the country for them and they refuse to stick to the rules."

    This is main problem. People don't have self discipline. Simon Harris is right when he said people need to take social distancing measures more seriously.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,408 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston


    gabeeg wrote: »
    Why are you confident we have a handle on things?

    Because our response so far doesn't seem haphazard or chaotic. Very low death-rate. Loads of testing. 24,000 people signed up to be emergency staff across the healthcare sector. Med-tronic is doubling its ventilator staff. People aren't being savages in supermarkets.

    I'm aware of how dangerous this is but I'm confident we'll get through this strongly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,808 ✭✭✭threeball


    is_that_so wrote: »
    Use WhatsApp video instead.

    Meanwhile zero new cases in China over 24 hours.

    https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/0320/1124268-china-virus-no-new-cases/

    I fail to see how this is sustainable in the long run. Does the country self isolate for two years. No flights or ferries


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,052 ✭✭✭tikkahunter


    Mollycam wrote: »
    Have u been called yet ?
    No not yet , if this isn’t Corana it’s a pretty ****ty bug . Newstalk were say 3-5 days to get called .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 904 ✭✭✭Blaze420


    Seamai wrote: »
    I was out walking on my own this afternoon when I saw three guys of about 14 coming towards me, from the way they were walking that they were up to no good so I was prepared when one pushed another towards me and was rewarded a swift jab of my elbow into his solar plexus. That cooled him down. To all you parents with feral kids out there (and there are many) keep your little darlings on a very short lead if you've not trained them.properly.

    Fair play to you. A lot of these little ****s are in for a very real shock with bollix acting like this - nobody has time for it and they only have themselves to blame if they get hurt.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56 ✭✭Shelly66


    is_that_so wrote: »
    Use WhatsApp video instead.

    Meanwhile zero new cases in China over 24 hours.

    https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/0320/1124268-china-virus-no-new-cases/

    My daughter and friends having a sit in group what’s app night , great idea each in their own houses but video calling through the group app


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,093 ✭✭✭mumo3


    Anyone else still working?

    Yes but can seriously see the slow down, so only a matter of time I think and I seriously don't know how I feel about it, I want to go into complete lockdown but don't want to be let go if we're not getting lockdown


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 395 ✭✭Class MayDresser


    ceadaoin. wrote: »
    Yeah I'm in the same boat in Nevada. I've accepted that I wont see my family back home until this is all over or calmed down a lot. My daughter doesn't understand that we most likely wont be going to stay with nana and grandad this summer. Trying not to worry too much though, theres literally nothing I can do. If I start to think about it then I get too upset really. Hope your family all stay safe.

    My parents are 40km away and won't be seeing their 22 grandkids(not all mine:-)) for a while.
    Don't beat yourself up because you're in a different country and likely locked down for the foreseeable is what I'm trying to say. Kids are tougher than we give them credit for ime. Take care over there, scary times.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,952 ✭✭✭DeanAustin


    coastwatch wrote: »
    At 0.43%, that would result in over 11000 deaths if just 50% of the population became infected.

    Just 50% of the population?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,955 ✭✭✭Nermal


    Any more info on asymptotic cases? I read about the group of 7 skiers from arklow, all recovered and never showed symptoms throughout. My minds been going down the doom route very fast this week and this stuff helps. A lot.

    Mass testing in Iceland revealed half the people who test positive were asymptomatic.

    https://www.buzzfeed.com/albertonardelli/coronavirus-testing-iceland


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 547 ✭✭✭RugbyLad11


    threeball wrote: »
    I fail to see how this is sustainable in the long run. Does the country self isolate for two years. No flights or ferries

    Everyone entering must stay 2 weeks in a government quarantine hotel room


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 439 ✭✭paddythere


    Poor kid me hole. Was probably pre planned. “Here Domo, ill push you in to your man, righ’”
    Na, its never pre planned. Me and my mates used to do a fair bit of it back in the day and it was mainly a joke on the person getting pushed rather than the stranger


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56 ✭✭Shelly66


    Mollycam wrote: »
    Have u been called yet ?

    I had a bad dose for 2 weeks 2 antibiotics and steroids breathless too no temp. Criteria changed for testing the day after my visit to gp. Gp not worrying rang me Tuesday paddy’s day I was fine , got sniffles again but not panicking


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    threeball wrote: »
    I fail to see how this is sustainable in the long run. Does the country self isolate for two years. No flights or ferries
    I think it's an example of the most extreme approach. Everyone should be learning what to do from S Korea and Singapore and learning what not to do in the case of Italy, Spain and Britain.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,150 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    BKtje wrote: »
    With regards to face masks (im no expert by the way, just what I've understood from reading up on it):

    Medical professionals wear them because they are CONSTANTLY surrounded by sick people (Covid 19 or other) and want to avoid compromising their immune systems and/or getting covid 19 (surgeons wear them to protect their patients). Higher doses of the virus (airborne) are more dangerous as was seen with the healthy frontline staff in china.

    Your average joe soap on the street does not need a face mask as the chances of catching it from walking by someone is minimal though of course they do offer some protection. The face mask joe Soap is wearing may be needed by a frontline staff at some point whose exposure is 100's or 1000's of times more than theirs. If ever there is a chronic shortage of face masks, having purchased and or worn one needlessly may actually have worsened the problem and , in extreme worst case scenarios, mean that if you ever do get sick there are fewer medical staff available as they fell ill due to lack of protection.

    Basically it's not that they don't protect you, it's just that the main vector for transmission in areas where there is little airborne particles is by touching a contaminated surface and then touching your face and are thus not really needed. It's a numbers game.

    Why sick people should wear masks I believe no one is debating?

    Once more this is just what I have understood from reading up on it and I am happy to be corrected but it makes sense.

    That's assuming everyone who wears a mask touches their face and that they are are wearing the paper or low grade ones. What about people who wear the proper ones with the seal and disposable gloves.
    Many joe soap have autoimmune disorders, heath problems and up in the upper age bracket and therefore at higher risk of complications if they get the virus. So if they wear proper masks etc are the not doing everyone a favour by protecting themselves by keeping themselves out of hospitals for as long as possible.
    People have to go out to the shops for essentials they cannot guarantee someone hasn't shed the virus onto some surface, you even said it there is a low risk but there is still a risk.

    If people are in that high risk category let them wear masks even if they are the low grade ones. Enough people worried as it and and even if a piece of paper gives them a bit of comfort let it.

    What would help more for front line staff would be practice social distancing, stay indoors while waiting for results, cover when coughing and stop bulk buying.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21 Mollycam


    Friend of mine waiting since Wed am in Meath. Those on list since Mon been called today & tomorrow. 5 days at least....


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,661 ✭✭✭Duke of Url


    paddythere wrote: »
    Na, its never pre planned. Me and my mates used to do a fair bit of it back in the day and it was mainly a joke on the person getting pushed rather than the stranger

    Well he can blame his mates for him receiving a dig.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,444 ✭✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    No they wouldn't. Did you watch the briefing? He said giving the age info may identify the person.
    giving the age could easily identify that case that was live tweeted
    niallo27 wrote: »
    How the hell could it have had, the person was between 30-39, jesus that must have been your man johnny, he is between 30 and 39.

    source??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,026 ✭✭✭Kaisr Sose


    GiftofGab wrote: »
    Do you think it's ok to visit a friend tonight? I told her it's not safe but she wants to see me and wants to chance it. Have been staying in on my own all week. Have a family member showing symptoms which I told her about.

    Thwt would be big fat no from me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,250 ✭✭✭Seamai


    gabeeg wrote: »
    hahaha

    are you showing off about assaulting an innocent 14 year old who was pushed towards you?

    Didn't assault anyone, had my elbow sticking out to protect myself officer, EVERYONE is supposed to be practicing social distancing in these grave time.

    Maybe you're a parent of one of the types?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,955 ✭✭✭Nermal


    https://truepundit.com/stanford-professor-data-indicates-were-severely-overreacting-to-coronavirus/

    In an analysis published Tuesday, Stanford’s John P.A. Ioannidis — co-director of the university’s Meta-Research Innovation Center and professor of medicine, biomedical data science, statistics, and epidemiology and population health — suggests that the response to the coronavirus pandemic may be “a fiasco in the making” because we are making seismic decisions based on “utterly unreliable” data. The data we do have, Ioannidis explains, indicates that we are likely severely overreacting.
    ...
    Due to extremely limited testing, we are likely missing “the vast majority of infections” from COVID-19, he states, thus making reported fatality rates from the World Health Organization “meaningless.”


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,808 ✭✭✭threeball


    RugbyLad11 wrote: »
    Everyone entering must stay 2 weeks in a government quarantine hotel room

    So essentially yes is what you are saying. The country isolates for 2yrs, theres no normality if people are isolating in hotel rooms for 2 weeks. No tourism, no business visits. There'll be about 5 airlines left on the planet when this is done.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,095 ✭✭✭growleaves


    People on this thread arguing in favour of the suppression of data.

    That is insane.

    In that case why even discuss the pandemic except in the most vague terms - you don't have the full data and you don't even want to to have the full data


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 894 ✭✭✭no.8


    It's bloody infuriating. My wife was fuming cos they don't have these types of lowlifes where she's from. We've just accepted it it seems.


    The story of the coughing cultured wan or the scrotes can't be verified for the rest of us, and i wouldn't advocate violence as a first resort, however, in acts like that (and with prisons letting offenders out / the current emergency situation....i would advocate public batterings.
    No space in prison, no time for the Gards or judiciary system to deal with them. Just let the community beat the **** out of them


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 291 ✭✭WicklowTiger


    J. Marston wrote: »
    The way I'm looking at it is 3 deaths from 683. A mortality rate of 0.43%.

    That's great in my book. It will increase but I'm confident we have a handle on things.

    Another way of looking at it: only 5 yet confirmed as recovered. So that's 675 unknown outcome, and that's only those tested positive.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 911 ✭✭✭coastwatch


    DeanAustin wrote: »
    Just 50% of the population?

    I was being deliberately optimistic for J. Marston


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