CoVid-19 Part IX - 785 cases ROI (3 deaths) 108 in NI (1 death) (20 March) Read OP

Tacitus Kilgore · 20-03-2020 05:10PM

trapp wrote: »

Are people actually that stupid to be still looking at number of confirmed cases as a completely negative thing.

The advice from the WHO is to test, test, test.

The more tests carried out will lead to an increase in cases.

Most important is reducing the amount of vulnerable and at risk people getting the virus and therefore reducing the hospital and icu care needed and therefore reducing the deaths.

300 positive cases where only 30 require hospital treatment would be better than 250 where 70 require hospital treatment.

Obviously long term we want the numbers to go down but that data trends like that can only be assessed over a longer period than day to day.

Amazing sometimes the absolute lack of intelligence and basic cop on in some people.

The man on the street is of the opinion that whatever today's number is that of how many people currently have covid19, they just don't understand - that's why social distancing only works on those who will think about and look into what it actually means.

People need to be told straight out in no uncertain terms - NOT to visit anyone, NOT to let kids out, NOT to touch stuff in shops unless they're buying it. etc. until then people will swan around 'cos the government says it's grand (even though that's not what it says)

trapp · 20-03-2020 05:11PM

walshb wrote: »

If we have clear increases today and the next few days, can we expect a public type announcement as regards more measures, other than those in place, and other than those that are being brought in via the emergency bill from yesterday.

We expect increases as we have increased testing.

They don't just make it up as they go along.

Try and have even a tiny bit of cop on.

bodhrandude · 20-03-2020 05:11PM

All these party poopers on the rage at the moment need to see this from Bergamo, I don't know if its been posted already but here it is again.

bekker · 20-03-2020 05:11PM

Pompeo, avoid dubious social media reports ... 'not true that 'China virus' emanated from US Army facility', trust only reliable sources!
US Gov COVID-19 briefing - earlier.

is_that_so · 20-03-2020 05:11PM

walshb wrote: »

If we have clear increases today and the next few days, can we expect a public type announcement as regards more measures, other than those in place, and other than those that are being brought in via the emergency bill from yesterday.

Not until they get to the end of the month, then they'll review.

Blanco100 · 20-03-2020 05:11PM

trapp wrote: »

Are people actually that stupid to be still looking at number of confirmed cases as a completely negative thing.

The advice from the WHO is to test, test, test.

The more tests carried out will lead to an increase in cases.

Most important is reducing the amount of vulnerable and at risk people getting the virus and therefore reducing the hospital and icu care needed and therefore reducing the deaths.

300 positive cases where only 30 require hospital treatment would be better than 250 where 70 require hospital treatment.

Obviously long term we want the numbers to go down but that data trends like that can only be assessed over a longer period than day to day.

Amazing sometimes the absolute lack of intelligence and basic cop on in some people.

Thats a simplistic view though. More positive tests obviously means more ability to stop this person spreading, but doesn't answer the question as to how long this person has had it, who they passed it onto etc...

The more positive tests, the more possibility that others will catch it etc... Don't think theres as much positive spin as suggested.

MipMap · 20-03-2020 05:12PM

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

If you missed it listen to this Doctor on why we should stay indoors and treat each other like pariahs. Remember she is going to have to deal with the sick and dying.

https://twitter.com/RTE_PrimeTime/status/1240767106955821059?s=20

This was really sobering.

RTE News should show this every day.

Jinglejangle69 · 20-03-2020 05:12PM

tscul32 wrote: »

Just drove Portmarnock to Malahide, barely a free parking space the whole way. So many people out walking on the beach. But with the coastal wind someone 10 metres from you could sneeze uncovered and you could easily be hit in the face! Then at my sister in law's there was a group of kids (oldest about 7) out playing, not all siblings either. I was only out on grocery drop duty but couldn't believe the amount of groups out and about.

As Simon Coveney said earlier we will look back in 6 weeks to this week and say we should have all done more.

These morons acting like this today are causing untold damage.

Mervyn Skidmore · 20-03-2020 05:13PM

wakka12 wrote: »

In other news 88% of people in China who contracted coronavirus are now healthy again and virus free.

People can come up with statistics to prove anything, 40% of all people know that.

1800_Ladladlad · 20-03-2020 05:13PM

I haven't been keeping up with this thread in the past 24 hours as its gone to the dogs, sorry if this has been posted,

https://twitter.com/Buailtin/status/1240944703853539328

bilston · 20-03-2020 05:13PM

Critical incident declared at a London hospital this afternoon as it has reached maximum capacity.

This is the beginning of it in London.

stephenjmcd · 20-03-2020 05:13PM

Worthwhile listening to this, a number of his travel group tested positive and none showed any symptoms while in isolation. 7 days in the mater and 7 at home.

An excellent interview and insight

https://www.eastcoast.fm/podcasts2/podcasts/the-morning-show/episode/wicklow-man-tells-east-coast-fms-morning-show-about-his-experience-after-recovering-from-covid-19/

tobefrank321 · 20-03-2020 05:15PM

skellig_rocks wrote: »

I think there are still some restrictions in Wuhan, most of the restrictions are removed in the rest of China.

This is a tweet from a lecturer in Beijing describing the current situation in Beijing:

https://twitter.com/michaelxpettis/status/1240598009588539392

BTW his financial tweets are very informative.

The Chinese did a proper lockdown. We didn't.

After about 6-8 weeks China is starting to return to normal but they will likely have long term restrictions such as social distancing in shops and public.

Because of our phoney lockdown, we'll still be in trouble 6 months from now.

You either shut everything down completely and start up again after 2 months, or you just scrape along at the bottom for 6 months which we likely will.

Antares35 · 20-03-2020 05:15PM

plodder wrote: »

Of course, but my OH and daughters were out walking yesterday and they got a bit of abuse from a passing motorist who obviously thought they should be walking further apart.

Some people seem to be interpreting it as 2 metres from every other person. The advice above is not clear enough.

What a kn*bhead

is_that_so · 20-03-2020 05:15PM

Blanco100 wrote: »

Thats a simplistic view though. More positive tests obviously means more ability to stop this person spreading, but doesn't answer the question as to how long this person has had it, who they passed it onto etc...

The more positive tests, the more possibility that others will catch it etc... Don't think theres as much positive spin as suggested.

Possibly but it also means more people can be isolated so they can't infect others and they did say the number of contacts per case has fallen considerably.

Nermal · 20-03-2020 05:16PM

plodder wrote: »

abuse from a passing motorist

Honestly, what type of person would do this? This thing has emboldened a bunch of busybody OCD fruitcakes.

trapp · 20-03-2020 05:16PM

Blanco100 wrote: »

Thats a simplistic view though. More positive tests obviously means more ability to stop this person spreading, but doesn't answer the question as to how long this person has had it, who they passed it onto etc...

The more positive tests, the more possibility that others will catch it etc... Don't think theres as much positive spin as suggested.

Yes I agree but these trends can only be assessed over time.

These pages and the country in general seems to be full of clowns who if the results are less than 191 tonight will think we're on the way out of the crisis or if there's a big jump they'll be screaming for a lockdown.

The success of how we are dealing with the virus can't be measured on the numbers each night.

And ultimately the numbers requiring hospital care are most important.

If more and more of our at risk groups avoid the virus we'll come out better.

threeball · 20-03-2020 05:16PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Worthwhile listening to this, a number of his travel group tested positive and none showed any symptoms while in isolation.

https://www.eastcoast.fm/podcasts2/podcasts/the-morning-show/episode/wicklow-man-tells-east-coast-fms-morning-show-about-his-experience-after-recovering-from-covid-19/

Theres thousands of cases out there that won't be reported or recorded. Bad for spreading it but good for social immunity.

Cork Boy 53 · 20-03-2020 05:16PM

trapp wrote: »

Are people actually that stupid to be still looking at number of confirmed cases as a completely negative thing.

The advice from the WHO is to test, test, test.

The more tests carried out will lead to an increase in cases.

Most important is reducing the amount of vulnerable and at risk people getting the virus and therefore reducing the hospital and icu care needed and therefore reducing the deaths.

300 positive cases where only 30 require hospital treatment would be better than 250 where 70 require hospital treatment.

Obviously long term we want the numbers to go down but that data trends like that can only be assessed over a longer period than day to day.

Amazing sometimes the absolute lack of intelligence and basic cop on in some people.

I think it`s called panic. Believe me I should know.

harr · 20-03-2020 05:16PM

1800_Ladladlad wrote: »

I haven't been keeping up with this thread in the past 24 hours as its gone to the dogs, sorry if this has been posted,

https://twitter.com/Buailtin/status/1240944703853539328

That’s both heart breaking and lovely at the same time .. wow

wakka12 · 20-03-2020 05:17PM

All non essential businesses ordered to close in the states of NewYork and Pennsylvania

trapp · 20-03-2020 05:17PM

tobefrank321 wrote: »

The Chinese did a proper lockdown. We didn't.

After about 6-8 weeks China is starting to return to normal but they will likely have long term restrictions such as social distancing in shops and public.

Because of our phoney lockdown, we'll still be in trouble 6 months from now.

You either shut everything down completely and start up again after 2 months, or you just scrape along at the bottom for 6 months which we likely will.

Perhaps but it would be even more dangerous for a state to have the power China has over its people.

It may have worked in this case but in general for a state to be able to enforce the measures is Wuhan is not a good thing.

That could never happen here and rightly so.

Allinall · 20-03-2020 05:17PM

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

And how many of them were at Cheltenham recently?

None of the jockeys and very few of the trainers.

Dundalk is flat and Cheltneham is national hunt.

I'd say there is probably less than 100 in Dundalk today.

cnocbui · 20-03-2020 05:18PM

If one didn't already know that climate 'scientists' are a bunch of dim witted morons and their green cohrt even worse:

Rockstrom emphasized that the degree of risk between the coronavirus pandemic and the climate crisis was “completely incompatible,” as the latter is much more serious.

Climate scientists believe the unprecedented measures in place to tackle the coronavirus pandemic give a glimpse of what could be possible when it comes to fighting the climate emergency.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/20/coronavirus-what-the-global-response-means-for-the-climate-crisis.html

Words fail me. These people must live on a different planet. If this went on for 8 months, world unemployment would be 30-40%, at least. There would be civil wars between the haves and the have-nots, and these cretins want to make this the norm.

billybonkers · 20-03-2020 05:19PM

Allinall wrote: »

None of the jockeys and very few of the trainers.

Dundalk is flat and Cheltneham is national hunt.

I'd say there is probably less than 100 in Dundalk today.

It is behind closed doors

trapp · 20-03-2020 05:19PM

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

I think it`s called panic. Believe me I should know.

It's not it's just simple stupidity.

These people were stupid before the virus and will be stupid after it.

walshb · 20-03-2020 05:20PM

trapp wrote: »

We expect increases as we have increased testing.

They don't just make it up as they go along.

Try and have even a tiny bit of cop on.

Bravo for the most patronizing and condescending post on the thread...

bb12 · 20-03-2020 05:21PM

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Everyone out and about today, every where looks busy. All the industrial retails premises are open, life goes on. Gangs of teenagers out and about, summer holidays have come early.
We're doing a little, but hardly enough. The '' dumb'' part of society will force a lockdown, as it's the only way those dumbasses will distance themselves from others.

unfortunately these idiots are not only harmful to themselves and those they come in contact with, but they are a detriment to society as a whole

because of them the government are easily able to pass laws that curtail a whole population's civil liberties, that while necessary during this crisis, will be left on the statute books going forwards leading to unforeseen consequences in the future

Allinall · 20-03-2020 05:22PM

billybonkers wrote: »

It is behind closed doors

I know that.

The 100 or so would be made up of jockeys, trainers, course staff and owners.

Each stable is restricted to one trainer, one lad and one owner per horse.

BLIZZARD7 · 20-03-2020 05:22PM

political analyst wrote: »

There have been calls for a lockdown here in the Republic. But don't we already have a de facto lockdown anyway?! Schools, cinemas, restaurants, pubs and most cafés are closed.

Furthermore, if Person A was in a pub in Temple Bar last Saturday night and stopped to talk afterwards to Person B, who wasn't in a pub at all, could Person B have reduced the risk of being infected by having a warm shower afterwards?

Yes and if you have a warm shower after you have died from Covid-19 you then come back to life afterwards. :rolleyes:

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CoVid-19 Part IX - 785 cases ROI (3 deaths) 108 in NI (1 death) (20 March) Read OP