CoVid-19 Part IX - 785 cases ROI (3 deaths) 108 in NI (1 death) (20 March) Read OP

statesaver · 20-03-2020 02:44PM

skellig_rocks wrote: »

I think Xi Jiping is much more dangerous than Trump. Like Trump or not he may not be the US President by Januray next year, but Xi and CCP will rule China for the next few decades. And the crisis is caused by Xi wrong decisions back in January.

Actually we may be helping Trump to get re-elected by giving him much need air-time and publicity. While Xi is hiding and never made any national address to his nation during this crisis.

Do you live and have a vote in the States ?

wakka12 · 20-03-2020 02:45PM

Good to see USA testing a lot more people now. Cases hitting almost 15,000 now, will likely be over 20,000 by tonight.

SEPT 23 1989 · 20-03-2020 02:45PM

Ryanair cut all wages by 50%

Cee-Jay-Cee · 20-03-2020 02:45PM

jamesf85 wrote: »

I genuinely can't understand how/why people are hung up on how many infected we have.

"We're on track to be worse than Italy"

Really? How many tests had Italy administered at this stage after their first positive test or their first death? How many did we test that were counted with yesterdays figures? We don't even know what days were counted in yesterdays figures.

Italy has a population of 66 million with one of the oldest populations on earth. We have a population of 5.4million.

Italy is very densely populated in particular the North of the country. Ireland has a very sparse population with the exception of Dublin.

We are in no way like Italy and unlikely to ever be unless everyone starts licking everyone else to purposely spread the virus.

caveat emptor · 20-03-2020 02:45PM

https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1241009047530332160?s=20

tobefrank321 · 20-03-2020 02:46PM

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

Well, no, by spending most of one's time in isolation, a person is minimising contact with others. That old lady had that excursion. It might have been her only one that week. In a normal week, she might have, say, seven similar excursions. You don't think there's any value to seriously cutting down your contact with others if it's not 100%? Don't be such a busybody. If everyone drastically cuts down their trips out, the spread can be slowed but it's not realistic to expect that people will never step out. That old lady might not have much support.

The point was not her going out from her house. The point was her using an atm machine, typing in her pin, collecting cash, going to the counter to purchase something, taking the change, putting it in her pocket or her purse.

We've been told to minimise social contact - that also means surfaces used by others. For most of us, it doesn't matter. For someone in the vulnerable category it could be lethal.

I have a feeling this is why Italy is seeing it so bad among the elderly. They just don't understand the need to cut down touching surfaces, shaking hands, hugs and kisses. There will be exceptions of course who are very up with it.

sheepsh4gger · 20-03-2020 02:46PM

Just went outside. People sitting outside of cafes, like nothing is happening. The Tesco Metro has a silly line and signs but the place is so small that people step on each other's toes.
Ireland is kill

Tea drinker · 20-03-2020 02:47PM

Corkgirl20 wrote: »

I would also like a lockdown. My 66 year old mum is a retired nurse who went back to work for the hospital this week on request. She’s so petrified of contacting it and not knowing and then passing it onto my dad, she’s sleeping in a separate room to him. She doesn’t leave the house only to go to work. I’m a teacher so off work and able to run all the errands for them. But it pains me to see how careful she is being and risking a lot ( she’s not young the virus may not be so kind if she contracts it). I was driving through my town this evening and I saw a group of about 10-12 teens hanging out and it angered me. Then I saw someone had posed about it on the town Facebook page and some parents were writing back asking what the issue was and for people to calm down.
The issue is these teens will go home and pass it onto family members who may end up in hospital , taking up hospital beds when it could have been prevented if they just told their kids to stay in for a matter of weeks. It’s not forever , kids have phones and TV’s , they can go for walks and ride their bikes. They won’t die from a bit of social distancing and it may save the lives of others.

I know this rant doesn’t apply to most parents are doing an excellent job keeping their kids away from groups. I applaud those who are doing this !!

Well the kids didn't lick it off a stamp, the parents have infected their kids with their own disregard (or just maybe stupid)

tobefrank321 · 20-03-2020 02:49PM

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Ryanair cut all wages by 50%

A sad but necessary step. There's no hope of controlling this without controlling air travel. A couple of weeks or months from now, air travel could be gradually increased.

joeguevara · 20-03-2020 02:49PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

source?

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/coronavirus-china-face-masks-boots-amazon-stock-flu-hygiene-a9309771.html

This report quotes from an expert.

I looked him up and he did say it. But other experts differ. Health organisation will always want to protect supply. But most agree if social distancing then masks are not required.

Timberrrrrrrr · 20-03-2020 02:50PM

sheepsh4gger wrote: »

Just went outside. People sitting outside of cafes, like nothing is happening. The Tesco Metro has a silly line and signs but the place is so small that people step on each other's toes.
Ireland is kill

And Dundalk racing going ahead today, a few hundred people from all over the country mixing and risking carrying the virus home.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts · 20-03-2020 02:52PM

tobefrank321 wrote: »

The point was not her going out from her house. The point was her using an atm machine, typing in her pin, collecting cash, going to the counter to purchase something, taking the change, putting it in her pocket or her purse.

We've been told to minimise social contact - that also means surfaces used by others. For most of us, it doesn't matter. For someone in the vulnerable category it could be lethal.

I have a feeling this is why Italy is seeing it so bad among the elderly. They just don't understand the need to cut down touching surfaces, shaking hands, hugs and kisses. There will be exceptions of course who are very up with it.

None of that goes against what I said. That old lady might need to step out for herself. Not everyone has support. If she's cut excursions down to the bare minimum, that is still of value, a lot less interactions than normal and therefore less chances for transmission. The last thing vulnerable people need is people tsking at them.

statesaver · 20-03-2020 02:52PM

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

And Dundalk racing going ahead today, a few hundred people from all over the country mixing and risking carrying the virus home.

Madness, why can't the Government stop it ?

Loafing Oaf · 20-03-2020 02:53PM

wadacrack wrote: »

https://medium.com/@stevejang/flattening-the-curve-the-south-korean-approach-to-covid-19-49cb55d1e782

South Korea was hit by COVID-19, a novel coronavirus, in mid-January 2020 and

has been able to rapidly flatten the curve in 8 weeks using a comprehensive suppression strategy of:
High-Availability Testing
Clear Quarantine/Isolation Protocols
Extensive Contact Tracing
Social Distancing
— and without a complete shutdown of commercial and retail economy.

To me that doesn't seem any more extreme than what most European countries have been doing for several days now. With no discernible effect so far.:(

billybonkers · 20-03-2020 02:53PM

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Ryanair cut all wages by 50%

Source on this?

dummy_crusher · 20-03-2020 02:53PM

murpho999 wrote: »

This is not true and you're basing it on one study where it said it was plausable.

Coronavirus is spread in sneeze or cough droplets. To infect you, it has to get from an infected person's nose or mouth into your eyes, nose or mouth. This can be direct or indirect (on hands, objects, surfaces). Keep this in mind. It will help you remember all the things you need to do to protect yourself and others from the virus

https://www2.hse.ie/conditions/coronavirus/protect-yourself.html

An aerosol is a suspension of fine solid particles or liquid droplets in air or another gas.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aerosol

Timberrrrrrrr · 20-03-2020 02:54PM

statesaver wrote: »

Madness, why can't the Government stop it ?

Thurles is on tomorrow, Downpatrick and Naas sunday.

Tacitus Kilgore · 20-03-2020 02:54PM

statesaver wrote: »

Madness, why can't the Government stop it ?

let alone not stopping it, we're fuckin payin for it too - €67 million to it this year.

wakka12 · 20-03-2020 02:54PM

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

South Korea was hit by COVID-19, a novel coronavirus, in mid-January 2020 and
To me that doesn't seem any more extreme than what most European countries have been doing for several days now. With no discernible effect so far.:(

South korea flattened the curve in 8 weeks

'To me that doesn't seem any more extreme than what most European countries have been doing for several days now.

Cee-Jay-Cee · 20-03-2020 02:54PM

TheAsYLuMkeY wrote: »

I know how the government could get people to stay indoors.

if your found to be out unnecessarily, your emergency payment that has been introduced by the government for this is axed.

we would see massive compliance then.

We wouldn't because for a start, there is no onus to carry ID and we have a huge snowflake entitled generation who would refuse to give their names/addresses and what happens then? They have to be arrested and taken to a station till their names are established and so we have 2 or 3 hours of Garda time wasted to deal with one or 2 people.

The only way that it could be enforced is if legislation was introduced to take the one thing 99% of people have on them, off them...their phone. Some little prick would be more likely to comply if they thought they'd lose their phone. The phone could then be released on payment of €100 and proof of identity. Otherwise your at nothing and its unenforceable as unfortunately the Gardaí are so hamstrung by all sorts of nonsense legislation which in 99% of cases protects only criminals and wrong doers.

ZX7R · 20-03-2020 02:56PM

billybonkers wrote: »

Source on this?

Rte news

skellig_rocks · 20-03-2020 02:56PM

statesaver wrote: »

Do you live and have a vote in the States ?

No I am ethnic Chinese living in Ireland for the last 20 years. I just don't think China during this crisis is any better than Mr. Trump performance, but no one seems to ask series questions about China's behaviour, yet Trump is getting so much attention.

As I said before, although the word "Chinese Virus" is not nice. It emphasis the origin of the virus, which China/CCP are trying to put their own narrative around the world, to shift blame from its own citizens and the world.

Doctors room ghost · 20-03-2020 02:57PM

Source,link,social distancing,boomer,woke,going forward.
Anyone found using these terms should be blasted into space for the greater good of mankind.
Lordy lord.what a fcukin time to be alive.
The government needs to start sending out tin foil hats and Valium i reckon.

TheAsYLuMkeY · 20-03-2020 02:57PM

Tacitus Kilgore wrote: »

let alone not stopping it, we're fuckin payin for it too - €67 million to it this year.

How can i go about opposing this and my tax money does not pay for this from now.

what a ****ing joke, i have worked from the day i left school a few decades ago now, never drawn dole or welfare ever and all this time i have been funding ****ing horse racing.

I dont watch it, i dont bet on it, and i have to ****ing pay for it.

And while all this is happening its business as usual.....**** no.

Pinch Flat · 20-03-2020 02:57PM

billybonkers wrote: »

Source on this?

Widely reported in the media

https://www.rte.ie/amp/1124398/

Akrasia · 20-03-2020 02:57PM

Rob A. Bank wrote: »

YouTube joins Netflix in reducing video quality in Europe.

Streams now set to standard definition by default

Luckily for me, I stockpiled on bandwidth, got a load of it saved up in a box under the stairs and I can now stream videos in 8k to my phone while you guys are stuck with 720p on your 65 inch tvs

wakka12 · 20-03-2020 02:57PM

Doctors room ghost wrote: »

Source,link,social distancing,boomer,woke,going forward.
Anyone found using these terms should be blasted into space for the greater good of mankind.
Lordy lord.what a fcukin time to be alive.
The government needs to start sending out tin foil hats and Valium i reckon.

What is wrong with source and link though

Cee-Jay-Cee · 20-03-2020 02:58PM

scamalert wrote: »

few degrees up and kids are out and about, this crap isnt working, its hilarious how some describe their activities as if going outdoors they are going into radiation zone or something, lots of mild case flu going around, numbers dont matter if we all need eventually to get it. cant see this last past end of this month, the dole offices are probabbly burried by people on the dole, if hse got equipment ready and are prepared enough this should end by the month and back to usual, can't see with temperatures going up that anyone will stay in doors much longer, given good few months this been out here, its safe to assume many are infected or have been, but aside critical or dead, its pointless to go with daily updates, as its not spreading here like anywhere else so safe to assume many are ok.

I agree, I can see complacency creeping in. The last few days practically all shops in Letterkenny were closed. Today, the majority on main street are open, pharmacy's (fair enough but no rules on social distancing) sports shops, gift shops, shoes shops, newsagents, post office, etc etc plenty of people wandering around like nothing was happening. By next week they'll all be open.

Stricter enforcement is needed NOW!

elperello · 20-03-2020 02:58PM

billybonkers wrote: »

Source on this?

https://www.thesun.ie/travel/5228489/ryanair-flights-could-be-grounded-for-three-months-as-staff-wages-cut-by-50/

dummy_crusher · 20-03-2020 02:59PM

wakka12 wrote: »

What is wrong with source and link though

People would have to back up every BS claim they make? Can't be having that!

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CoVid-19 Part IX - 785 cases ROI (3 deaths) 108 in NI (1 death) (20 March) Read OP