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CoVid-19 Part IX - 785 cases ROI (3 deaths) 108 in NI (1 death) (20 March) *Read OP*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,765 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    How do you know that you are not in direct contact with infected people?

    Because I've been avoiding direct contact with people all week. Simple.

    Also, if I was in direct contact with an infected person then a surgical mask that most people want to get would not really offer me any protection.


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    Here's a previous one.

    Please stop.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Funsterdelux




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,845 ✭✭✭Antares35


    is_that_so wrote: »
    They all do that with alarming frequency at that age! I had a neighbour who used to say that every year from her late seventies. She was 92 when she died.

    My Dad is 73 and I can't imagine him saying something like that! He has more life in him than I have at times! He is eagerly awaiting the arrival of his first grandchild (our daughter who is due in a couple of weeks) and can't wait to spoil her rotten :D I think I would be heartbroken if he came out with something like that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,922 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    murpho999 wrote: »
    Because I've been avoiding direct contact with people all week. Simple.

    Also, if I was in direct contact with an infected person then a surgical mask that most people want to get would not really offer me any protection.

    You have got it in one there.

    Zero contact = Zero risk.

    Any contact is a compromise.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    m17 wrote: »
    Italian air force we will win coronavirus outbreak

    Video is from ages ago.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 130 ✭✭skellig_rocks


    walshb wrote: »
    What is right and wrong in this mad world?

    Trump is vile. Rather than trying to be a decent human, that should be bringing people together, he is deliberately stoking division and hatred and hostility. He’s truly disgusting.

    What actual help is him deliberately offending so many people?

    He is even starting to emphasise his words when mentioning it. Unreal..

    Dangerously odd man.


    I think Xi Jiping is much more dangerous than Trump. Like Trump or not he may not be the US President by Januray next year, but Xi and CCP will rule China for the next few decades. And the crisis is caused by Xi wrong decisions back in January.



    Actually we may be helping Trump to get re-elected by giving him much need air-time and publicity. While Xi is hiding and never made any national address to his nation during this crisis.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 634 ✭✭✭TheAsYLuMkeY


    gabeeg wrote: »
    Look at you, filling up valuable internet space with this guff.

    The internet is at no risk of breaking. Relax.

    Ahh yes, thats why a senior EU official asked the major tech companies to stop HD streaming service, for the craic.

    Have you ever been in a shop where the card machine system had gone down?

    I have experienced it twice in total, but countless times when it took an age to do the transaction.

    If the infrastructure is under constant and prolonged pressure (months possibly from this), cashless transaction could suffer and cash would bridge that gap.

    Dont try and blow out of proportion what i was getting at.

    Cash should be maintained in reserve always.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,765 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    Hand washing will only get you so far. The governments stated objective is to flatten the curve.

    People who are at risk should have a different objective. Don't get it.
    People should treat everyone they come into contact with as potentially having it.
    They should reduce that risk wherever possible.

    It's a respiratory disease. We know that.
    It's spread by aerosol. We know that.
    Respirators can filter out aerosols.
    Do they work? HSE says "masks" don't work.


    This is not true and you're basing it on one study where it said it was plausable.

    You're either scaremongering or have shares in a mask manufacturing company.

    It's not just HSE who say they're not required, but the NHS, WHO, CDC, Dutch Health ministry etc.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,179 ✭✭✭✭fr336


    Social distancing needs to be in place for most of a YEAR, say UK government advisers. I think UK (ie me) are going to get a big wake up call very shortly.

    https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-social-distancing-needs-to-be-in-place-for-most-of-a-year-say-government-advisers-11960920


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    murpho999 wrote: »
    This is not true and you're basing it on one study where it said it was plausable.

    You're either scaremongering or have shares in a mask manufacturing company.

    It's not just HSE who say they're not required, but the NHS, WHO, CDC, Dutch Health ministry etc.

    source?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,084 ✭✭✭statesaver


    I think Xi Jiping is much more dangerous than Trump. Like Trump or not he may not be the US President by Januray next year, but Xi and CCP will rule China for the next few decades. And the crisis is caused by Xi wrong decisions back in January.



    Actually we may be helping Trump to get re-elected by giving him much need air-time and publicity. While Xi is hiding and never made any national address to his nation during this crisis.

    Do you live and have a vote in the States ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    Good to see USA testing a lot more people now. Cases hitting almost 15,000 now, will likely be over 20,000 by tonight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,039 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    Ryanair cut all wages by 50%


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,235 ✭✭✭✭Cee-Jay-Cee


    jamesf85 wrote: »
    I genuinely can't understand how/why people are hung up on how many infected we have.

    "We're on track to be worse than Italy"

    Really? How many tests had Italy administered at this stage after their first positive test or their first death? How many did we test that were counted with yesterdays figures? We don't even know what days were counted in yesterdays figures.

    Italy has a population of 66 million with one of the oldest populations on earth. We have a population of 5.4million.

    Italy is very densely populated in particular the North of the country. Ireland has a very sparse population with the exception of Dublin.

    We are in no way like Italy and unlikely to ever be unless everyone starts licking everyone else to purposely spread the virus.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,527 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    Well, no, by spending most of one's time in isolation, a person is minimising contact with others. That old lady had that excursion. It might have been her only one that week. In a normal week, she might have, say, seven similar excursions. You don't think there's any value to seriously cutting down your contact with others if it's not 100%? Don't be such a busybody. If everyone drastically cuts down their trips out, the spread can be slowed but it's not realistic to expect that people will never step out. That old lady might not have much support.

    The point was not her going out from her house. The point was her using an atm machine, typing in her pin, collecting cash, going to the counter to purchase something, taking the change, putting it in her pocket or her purse.

    We've been told to minimise social contact - that also means surfaces used by others. For most of us, it doesn't matter. For someone in the vulnerable category it could be lethal.

    I have a feeling this is why Italy is seeing it so bad among the elderly. They just don't understand the need to cut down touching surfaces, shaking hands, hugs and kisses. There will be exceptions of course who are very up with it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 622 ✭✭✭sheepsh4gger


    Just went outside. People sitting outside of cafes, like nothing is happening. The Tesco Metro has a silly line and signs but the place is so small that people step on each other's toes.
    Ireland is kill


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,818 ✭✭✭Tea drinker


    Corkgirl20 wrote: »
    I would also like a lockdown. My 66 year old mum is a retired nurse who went back to work for the hospital this week on request. She’s so petrified of contacting it and not knowing and then passing it onto my dad, she’s sleeping in a separate room to him. She doesn’t leave the house only to go to work. I’m a teacher so off work and able to run all the errands for them. But it pains me to see how careful she is being and risking a lot ( she’s not young the virus may not be so kind if she contracts it). I was driving through my town this evening and I saw a group of about 10-12 teens hanging out and it angered me. Then I saw someone had posed about it on the town Facebook page and some parents were writing back asking what the issue was and for people to calm down.
    The issue is these teens will go home and pass it onto family members who may end up in hospital , taking up hospital beds when it could have been prevented if they just told their kids to stay in for a matter of weeks. It’s not forever , kids have phones and TV’s , they can go for walks and ride their bikes. They won’t die from a bit of social distancing and it may save the lives of others.

    I know this rant doesn’t apply to most parents are doing an excellent job keeping their kids away from groups. I applaud those who are doing this !!
    Well the kids didn't lick it off a stamp, the parents have infected their kids with their own disregard (or just maybe stupid)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,527 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    Ryanair cut all wages by 50%

    A sad but necessary step. There's no hope of controlling this without controlling air travel. A couple of weeks or months from now, air travel could be gradually increased.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,244 ✭✭✭joeguevara


    source?

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/coronavirus-china-face-masks-boots-amazon-stock-flu-hygiene-a9309771.html

    This report quotes from an expert.

    I looked him up and he did say it. But other experts differ. Health organisation will always want to protect supply. But most agree if social distancing then masks are not required.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,855 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Just went outside. People sitting outside of cafes, like nothing is happening. The Tesco Metro has a silly line and signs but the place is so small that people step on each other's toes.
    Ireland is kill

    And Dundalk racing going ahead today, a few hundred people from all over the country mixing and risking carrying the virus home.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    The point was not her going out from her house. The point was her using an atm machine, typing in her pin, collecting cash, going to the counter to purchase something, taking the change, putting it in her pocket or her purse.

    We've been told to minimise social contact - that also means surfaces used by others. For most of us, it doesn't matter. For someone in the vulnerable category it could be lethal.

    I have a feeling this is why Italy is seeing it so bad among the elderly. They just don't understand the need to cut down touching surfaces, shaking hands, hugs and kisses. There will be exceptions of course who are very up with it.

    None of that goes against what I said. That old lady might need to step out for herself. Not everyone has support. If she's cut excursions down to the bare minimum, that is still of value, a lot less interactions than normal and therefore less chances for transmission. The last thing vulnerable people need is people tsking at them.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,084 ✭✭✭statesaver


    And Dundalk racing going ahead today, a few hundred people from all over the country mixing and risking carrying the virus home.

    Madness, why can't the Government stop it ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,817 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    wadacrack wrote: »
    South Korea was hit by COVID-19, a novel coronavirus, in mid-January 2020 and
    has been able to rapidly flatten the curve in 8 weeks using a comprehensive suppression strategy of:
    High-Availability Testing
    Clear Quarantine/Isolation Protocols
    Extensive Contact Tracing
    Social Distancing
    — and without a complete shutdown of commercial and retail economy.
    To me that doesn't seem any more extreme than what most European countries have been doing for several days now. With no discernible effect so far.:(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,293 ✭✭✭billybonkers


    Ryanair cut all wages by 50%

    Source on this?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 114 ✭✭dummy_crusher


    murpho999 wrote: »
    This is not true and you're basing it on one study where it said it was plausable.
    Coronavirus is spread in sneeze or cough droplets. To infect you, it has to get from an infected person's nose or mouth into your eyes, nose or mouth. This can be direct or indirect (on hands, objects, surfaces). Keep this in mind. It will help you remember all the things you need to do to protect yourself and others from the virus

    https://www2.hse.ie/conditions/coronavirus/protect-yourself.html
    An aerosol is a suspension of fine solid particles or liquid droplets in air or another gas.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aerosol

    :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,855 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    statesaver wrote: »
    Madness, why can't the Government stop it ?

    Thurles is on tomorrow, Downpatrick and Naas sunday.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,128 ✭✭✭Tacitus Kilgore


    statesaver wrote: »
    Madness, why can't the Government stop it ?


    let alone not stopping it, we're fuckin payin for it too - €67 million to it this year.


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