CoVid-19 Part IX - 785 cases ROI (3 deaths) 108 in NI (1 death) (20 March) Read OP

caveat emptor · 20-03-2020 01:39PM

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

Which should be scrutinised carefully. Anyone who works in scientific research knows how long papers take to get published usually due to how long quality research takes and the checks and balances in place such as the peer review process. Papers that are coming out in a matter of weeks are likely to be error-ridden and of lower quality.

Luckily this is not a novel area of research.

Respirators are designed to prevent people from inhaling toxins. A virus is very small but there are C.E certified "masks" that block them out.

Again ask yourself why do doctors wear them?
I think it's to minimise risk.
Why wouldn't you minimise risk if you could?
Seems a no brainer.

Bannasidhe · 20-03-2020 01:40PM

Hobgoblin11 wrote: »

This game of tag the kids are playing , where they shout covid 19 when tagged is a dangerous disgrace

Hobgoblin11 wrote: »

it is when they are tagging at risk adults outside or pharmacies during the actual event as the story was told by me on here , shameful dangerous disgrace

You added that bit later.
Your original post was full on Victor Meldrew. For all we knew those children could have been in their own back garden.

And in the great scheme of shameful dangerous disgraces what the children were saying is waaay down the list.

JRant · 20-03-2020 01:40PM

spookwoman wrote: »

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1240989380183015424?s=20

Load of shītê.

Point 1: well duh
Point 2: made up quote
Point 3: would Dr Spin not be better off telling the country rather than his party?

murpho999 · 20-03-2020 01:40PM

Funkfield wrote: »

If the person who coughed/sneezed was wearing a mask?

As i've said, if the person is infected then they should wear the mask (But they shouldn't be out).

But that's not why people are wearing them here. They think it prevents then from getting the virus.

I've said this numerous times now.

wakka12 · 20-03-2020 01:42PM

Netherlands reports a 20% increase in cases of 530+, and 30 more deaths. Deaths in NL now at 105

vektarman · 20-03-2020 01:42PM

I was paying for some groceries at a shop checkout this morning and a guy came right up behind me and started coughing in to my back, some people just don't think, scary.

20-03-2020 01:42PM

Bannasidhe wrote: »

Did you know that
"Ring-a-ring-a-rosies
A pocket full of posies
A tissue, a tissue
We all fall down"
dates back to the Black Death?

The ring-a rosies are the rash.
The pocket full of posies are the herbs people hoped would keep them safe.
The rest is self explanatory.

Growing up, I would go to little park set on a hill in South London. We always sang ring a ring a rosies when we were there as we’d been told that the bodies of those who died were beneath us.

This is another one that always spooked me when I stood on the platform

Bakerloo Line, London Depot, near Elephant & Castle At the south end of the depot lie two tunnels; one leads to Elephant and Castle whilst the other is a dead end and acts as a runaway lane for trains that are unable to stop. Behind the walls of the this tunnel lies a plague pit.

https://www.historic-uk.com/HistoryMagazine/DestinationsUK/LondonPlaguePits/

trashcan · 20-03-2020 01:43PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

How about you stop being so utterly condescending to people every time they put up a post that goes against your own thinking . Talking to people like their 2

Talking to people like their 2 what ?

murpho999 · 20-03-2020 01:43PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

Luckily this is not a novel area of research.

Respirators are designed to prevent people from inhaling toxins. A virus is very small but there are C.E certified "masks" that block them out.

Again ask yourself why do doctors wear them?
I think it's to minimise risk.
Why wouldn't you minimise risk if you could?
Seems a no brainer.

Doctors wear them because they're in direct contact with infected people and it's high risk.
Of course they wear them. But it's also to stop them spreading it to other people,

Also, the normal surgical masks that doctors normally wear in theatre. That's not for their own protection but the patient's.

Mwengwe · 20-03-2020 01:43PM

Funkfield wrote: »

If the person who coughed/sneezed was wearing a mask?

Unless your mask is welded to your face some droplets are still getting out around the edges of the mask. Just. cover. your. nose/mouth. It's so easy

Hobgoblin11 · 20-03-2020 01:44PM

Bannasidhe wrote: »

You added that bit later.
Your original post was full on Victor Meldrew. For all we knew those children could have been in their own back garden.

And in the great scheme of shameful dangerous disgraces what the children were saying is waaay down the list.

in fairness to me I brought you valid news, just be thankful and move on , enough of the historical bs

murpho999 · 20-03-2020 01:44PM

wakka12 wrote: »

Netherlands reports a 20% increase in cases of 530+, and 30 more deaths. Deaths in NL now at 105

The Dutch are making a mess of this.

Very complacent attitude about everything over there.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts · 20-03-2020 01:44PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

Luckily this is not a novel area of research.

Respirators are designed to prevent people from inhaling toxins. A virus is very small but there are C.E certified "masks" that block them out.

Again ask yourself why do doctors wear them?
I think it's to minimise risk.
Why wouldn't you minimise risk if you could?
Seems a no brainer.

Obviously it's not a novel area of research.

It doesn't matter if the experimental methods used are new or old, quality research takes time to produce. It's laborious, often frustrating stuff.

caveat emptor · 20-03-2020 01:44PM

murpho999 wrote: »

Doctors wear them because they're in direct contact with infected people and it's high risk.
Of course they wear them. But it's also to stop them spreading it to other people,

Also, the normal surgical masks that doctors normally wear in theatre. That's not for their own protection but the patient's.

Have you ever used a respirator?
I have.
They work.

Funsterdelux · 20-03-2020 01:45PM

facehugger99 wrote: »

Typical of the on-thread nonsense being posted - calls for checks of cars disembarking Ferries (check what exactly?), on the spot fines for people standing talking to each other and now a 'one-shop-a-week' enforcement policy.

Do some lads think we have an army of thousands of bureaucrats on stand-by to monitor and enforce whatever is the latest stupid policy they dream up?

Id prefer once a forthnight to be honest.

It doesnt need an army, it just needs to be broadcast by gov/health officials. You dont need to panic buy you just need to buy sensibly.

By your definition most laws are unforceable, gards etc are not everywhere because most people obey the laws and rules of the land

I know Im talking to the wall with you but anywho

BLIZZARD7 · 20-03-2020 01:45PM

Lundstram wrote: »

There won't be an economy to deal with. Why don't the "lockdown now" shower understand this?

I understand the global economy is already collapsing before our eyes. You haven't considered the impact on society if we simply ignore Covid-19. We would be looking at total collapse of health systems, mass deaths (Think WW1+WW2 +++) and an extremely enraged population when everyone realises governments put economy before health. I understand its not an either or and both are intrinsically linked but you absolutely cannot say 'let's just get on with life and let the virus kill the vulnerable'

Oh and don't come back and say just keep the vulnerable and elderly locked away for a while, that is logistically impossible because of the immense number of people involved.

It has yet to dawn on some people the scale of the problem we are dealing with and the sooner they acknowledge our new reality the better for everyone. Mental health etc will all improve too and we can collectively work towards improving the situation for all.

DOCARCH · 20-03-2020 01:45PM

murpho999 wrote: »

The Dutch are making a mess of this.

Very complacent attitude about everything over there.

Their health minister resigned yesterday!

lawred2 · 20-03-2020 01:47PM

MOR316 wrote: »

What the **** is a boomer?

Sounds like something a boomer would ask...

Bannasidhe · 20-03-2020 01:47PM

Hobgoblin11 wrote: »

you brought the fake facts of the rhythm up, I was relaying a story from the real news on radio

This outrage of yours is growing legs.
So, you heard an item on the radio where someone else spoke about witnessing children playing tag and you came on here to say how disgraceful it is without giving even a hint of context?

Look, kids should be social distancing yes. Absolutely.
Easier said than done as kids will be kids. But every effort should be made by the adults around them to reign in their more exuberant excesses. No quibble with that.

But getting our knickers in a twist about them saying 'covid 19' when they tag is a waste of time and energy when there are far more serious issues.

fin12 · 20-03-2020 01:47PM

murpho999 wrote: »

THe virus is not airborne. How can it float for 3 hours.

No country anywhere is advising the general public to wear facemasks if not affected and I've looked a good few countries offical health advice and the WHO.

Wearing masks and gloves does not achieve anything and is not necessary.

That’s not true my friend in South Korea said mask wearing is mandatory when out in public and at work. . Also Singapore send masks to every household for free.

PsychoPete · 20-03-2020 01:47PM

murpho999 wrote: »

The Dutch are making a mess of this.

Very complacent attitude about everything over there.

They are probably all stoned and haven't a clue what's going on

MOR316 · 20-03-2020 01:47PM

Speaking of the Dutch...

A Co-worker, who is sat very close to me was there last week...Came back into the office. Never said a word.
Ain't seen her in a day or two. Turns out said person has now been sent home.

Some people...

bottlebrush · 20-03-2020 01:48PM

Lundstram wrote: »

But they don't. Buy your own, they're only around €5 for a box and keep them in your car.

I still see people handing their debit cards to cashiers TO TAP. Some folk are beyond help.

I was in a pharmacy on monday. Assistant handed me my medication which I had ordered an hour beforehand and went back home while they got it ready. I produced my card expecting her to offer me the swipe machine thingy but she took the card from me and walked back up the top of the shop to swipe my card herself. She was on her way back down to me with the card when another pharmacist asked me to step outside the door which I did, passing the other people in the queue as I did so but this meant that the assistant who had served me also had to pass (squeeze past, as the place is very narrow) these people to come outside to me with my card and pass them again on the way back in. Maybe it made sense to them but not to me...

PrairieDawn · 20-03-2020 01:48PM

Just thought id say

I had to scroll down to find this thread.

AND the last post was 2 whole minutes ago.

Hobgoblin11 · 20-03-2020 01:49PM

Bannasidhe wrote: »

This outrage of yours is growing legs.
So, you heard an item on the radio where someone else spoke about witnessing children playing tag and you came on here to say how disgraceful it is without giving even a hint of context?

Look, kids should be social distancing yes. Absolutely.
Easier said than done as kids will be kids. But every effort should be made by the adults around them to reign in their more exuberant excesses. No quibble with that.

But getting our knickers in a twist about them saying 'covid 19' when they tag is a waste of time and energy when there are far more serious issues.

I'm not derailing the thread with this

MOR316 · 20-03-2020 01:49PM

lawred2 wrote: »

Sounds like something a boomer would ask?

Genuine question.

I have no clue about the latest slang

splinter65 · 20-03-2020 01:49PM

murpho999 wrote: »

The Dutch are making a mess of this.

Very complacent attitude about everything over there.

Well they would certainly be very very complacent about the elderly or the disabled dying off. It’s been established there for many years. Wether that’s a good or a bad thing has yet to be decided.

trapp · 20-03-2020 01:49PM

kevcos wrote: »

Which part is sh!te?

Clearly a shutdown will afford breathing space and will be effective in the short term but it comes at a massive economic cost the consequence of which are unknown.

When the phrase Economic Cost is mentioned a lot of people think this means that there will be temporary month long lay-offs and they may have to cancel this years summer holiday but everything will be back to normal by Christmas.

The remedy being worse than the disease is an outcome that must be considered, a terrible scenario to imagine in the face of the vulnerable, elderly and those in the high risk category.

I assume this entire outbreak stemmed from one single person infecting another?
We now have hundred of thousands infected. There is no controlling this virus, we have to learn to live with it and soon.

There is no winning scenario here for quite a long time possibly.

Like you said though there is a case to be made that lockdowns and so on over a long period of time would erode the modern world as we know it.

People will not stay housebound for months on end.

That will not happen and attempts to enforce that would lead to a collapse of law and order in time.

Through attempting to save lives, these methods may destroy modern life as we know it and ultimately cost us even more lives.

The hidden danger of this virus could well be worse than the virus itself.

And possibly the effects of this are not visible to many posters on here, as maybe those that spend so much time on internet forums are not social people to begin with?

neonsofa · 20-03-2020 01:49PM

is_that_so wrote: »

They all do that with alarming frequency at that age! I had a neighbour who used to say that every year from her late seventies. She was 92 when she died.

Yeah both of my grannies did this for about twenty years!

Deeper Blue · 20-03-2020 01:49PM

Surely the fact that a lot of people actually are respecting the social distancing guidelines will mean the spread is slowed down?

Obviously there's a lot of selfish arseholes out there but it's not like there hasn't been major changes in how most people are behaving.

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CoVid-19 Part IX - 785 cases ROI (3 deaths) 108 in NI (1 death) (20 March) Read OP