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CoVid-19 Part IX - 785 cases ROI (3 deaths) 108 in NI (1 death) (20 March) *Read OP*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,564 ✭✭✭✭whiskeyman


    wakka12 wrote: »
    Is the population not complying?

    A certain % will never comply, no matter what.

    Having enforcement measures hopefully will show the gravitas of the situation and importance to those already complying also.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 445 ✭✭iwillyeah1234


    josip wrote: »
    So, martial law?

    well if the army is on the streets, arresting people, it pretty much effectively is.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    TheCitizen wrote: »
    Don't tell this eejit is still here talking utter crap

    Whilst his comment is glib, the concept of economic suicide leading to more deaths than the virus itself is not without merit. The problem is that those economic related deaths will be silent, and uncounted. But will be preceded by anguish and poverty. Many could be suicides. The visible and immediate deaths from the virus will always have a higher profile, but the response shouldn’t be based on those alone


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    This is a forum to share information. I don't want people to be misinformed.
    You shouldn't be misinforming people about something you clearly don't understand.

    I've posted information from scientific journals. That's not my opinion. If you minimise the risk more people get it. Did you read any of the links?

    Yet again, the only official advice in this country comes from the HSE.

    Yet again with the talking down to people, follow the official advice and if you dont like what I'm saying take it up with the hse because it's all on their guidelines. Maybe you should ask them to change it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 264 ✭✭tromtipp


    ring a roses is more of a warning passed on thru the generAtions, covid tag is not, it's shameful!
    the ring a roses plague thing is very fake history


    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/ring-around-rosie/


    I'd love to think little scrotes playing Covid19 games was too . . .


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,836 ✭✭✭Nermal


    Bannasidhe wrote: »
    Did you know that
    "Ring-a-ring-a-rosies
    A pocket full of posies
    A tissue, a tissue
    We all fall down"
    dates back to the Black Death?

    The ring-a rosies are the rash.
    The pocket full of posies are the herbs people hoped would keep them safe.
    The rest is self explanatory.

    The plague did not give you a 'rosy rash' or make you sneeze, that's nonsense.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,731 ✭✭✭893bet


    Bannasidhe wrote: »
    Did you know that
    "Ring-a-ring-a-rosies
    A pocket full of posies
    A tissue, a tissue
    We all fall down"
    dates back to the Black Death?

    The ring-a rosies are the rash.
    The pocket full of posies are the herbs people hoped would keep them safe.
    The rest is self explanatory.

    This is most likely not true. See wiki below.


    Reasons against the Great Plague explanation

    Folklore scholars regard this explanation as baseless for several reasons:

    The plague explanation did not appear until the mid-twentieth century.[20]
    The symptoms described do not fit especially well with the Great Plague.[25][28]
    The great variety of forms makes it unlikely that the modern form is the most ancient one, and the words on which the interpretation are based are not found in many of the earliest records of the rhyme (see above).[26][29]
    European and 19th-century versions of the rhyme suggest that this "fall" was not a literal falling down, but a curtsy or other form of bending movement that was common in other dramatic singing games.[30]


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 454 ✭✭Mwengwe


    Mwengwe wrote: »
    Well consider yourself fortunate then because a large amount of people are pigs.

    Actually had a thought there, it's quite possible this virus would never have got off the ground if people knew to cover their mouths when they cough. Such a simple, non-costly thing that every human being should have drummed into them from childhood.
    I could be very wrong of course, maybe it spreads or sheds in other ways.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,476 ✭✭✭neonsofa


    gabeeg wrote: »
    :)

    Haven't seen that, but curious given the origin of ring-a-ring-a-rosey

    Reminds me of IRA bash, played by kids all over dublin when i was a kid. They dont realise the gravity of it, just a game to them


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,710 ✭✭✭TheCitizen


    Whilst his comment is glib, the concept of economic suicide leading to more deaths than the virus itself is not without merit. The problem is that those economic related deaths will be silent, and uncounted. But will be preceded by anguish and poverty. Many could be suicides. The visible and immediate deaths from the virus will always have a higher profile, but the response shouldn’t be based on those alone

    You haven't been paying attention have you. We need lockdown now, deal with the economy recovery later.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,765 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    There's this thing called science. People do experiments, they write down the results. They share them. If it is proven and replicated we trust it. People learn stuff and we improve as a whole.

    You should check it out. Google science.

    I don't doubt science.

    Only one study has shown that it's plausible that it lives in the air.

    Note plausible, does not mean definite.

    Also, if you believe in science then you should know that you would need more empirical evidence than one study to state something is fact.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,824 ✭✭✭facehugger99


    Bannasidhe wrote: »
    Did you know that
    "Ring-a-ring-a-rosies
    A pocket full of posies
    A tissue, a tissue
    We all fall down"
    dates back to the Black Death?

    The ring-a rosies are the rash.
    The pocket full of posies are the herbs people hoped would keep them safe.
    The rest is self explanatory.

    Urban Legend - no evidence that it's anything to do with the Black Death.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,218 ✭✭✭✭Bannasidhe


    I learned this as a child, most children do

    Yes, all the way back to the 14th century children learned it.
    Was it a dangerous disgrace then?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,129 ✭✭✭Lundstram


    TheCitizen wrote: »
    You haven't been paying attention have you. We need lockdown now, deal with the economy recovery later.
    There won't be an economy to deal with. Why don't the "lockdown now" shower understand this?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,634 ✭✭✭An Ri rua


    Bannasidhe wrote: »
    Did you know that
    "Ring-a-ring-a-rosies
    A pocket full of posies
    A tissue, a tissue
    We all fall down"
    dates back to the Black Death?

    The ring-a rosies are the rash.
    The pocket full of posies are the herbs people hoped would keep them safe.
    The rest is self explanatory.

    Yes, this is common knowledge.

    What is self explanatory is also ironic. They had tissues. We've no jacksroll.
    We're f**ked....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,710 ✭✭✭TheCitizen


    Lundstram wrote: »
    There won't be an economy to deal with. Why don't the "lockdown now" shower understand this?

    Dear oh dear


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    And what makes you so knowledgeable, I follow medical advice by the HSE who are the only official source to follow.

    I'm not going to follow someone online.

    Don't follow me. Don't be a sheepeople either?

    So the world health organisation?
    Centre for disease control?
    New England Journal of medicine?

    HSE is advising people based on the greater good. Why do other countries wear them? Do you think that we know more about diseases than they do.
    Luckily I don't intend to be a statistic for the greater good.
    Good luck.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,342 ✭✭✭chicorytip


    Mwengwe wrote: »
    Actually had a thought there, it's quite possible this virus would never have got off the ground if people knew to cover their mouths when they cough. Such a simple, non-costly thing that every human being should have drummed into them from childhood.
    I could be very wrong of course, maybe it spreads or sheds in other ways.
    ...like the disgusting practice of people (male, exclusively) spitting on the sidewalk in our cities and towns.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Don't follow me. Don't be a sheepeople either?

    So the world health organisation?
    Centre for disease control?
    New England Journal of medicine?

    HSE is advising people based on the greater good. Why do other countries wear them? Do you think that we know more about diseases than they do.
    Luckily I don't intend to be a statistic for the greater good.
    Good luck.

    What on earth are you banging on about now.

    Enjoy your day


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 222 ✭✭Looptheloop30


    Anyone ever play Plague Inc?

    Good game


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 264 ✭✭tromtipp


    It's quite funny that here as we all wait relatively calmly for the tsunami of disease to arrive, a lot of us are really really triggered by that ring-a-roses plague b0ll0x

    btw, we should all start our campaign for a real social history of this pandemic by writing diaries.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Yet again, the only official advice in this country comes from the HSE.

    Yet again with the talking down to people, follow the official advice and if you dont like what I'm saying take it up with the hse because it's all on their guidelines. Maybe you should ask them to change it.

    When it comes to a global pandemic. I'm not going to wait for official advise so there can be an enquiry afterwards.

    It's like the people in Grenfell tower. They were advised to remain in their apartments. Despite the fact the building was clearly on fire. Do you think that following the guidelines was the right call in that situation?

    HSE never got anything wrong.
    Cervical screening. / blood transfusion scandal etc


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,218 ✭✭✭✭Bannasidhe


    Nermal wrote: »
    The plague did not give you a 'rosy rash' or make you sneeze, that's nonsense.

    There is no evidence Mary Tudor was quite contrary or had a garden of Silver Bells, And Cockle Shells - nonetheless, regardless of when it was composed, it's a children's play rhyme that refers to 'Bloody Mary'.

    Children have had 'inappropriate' rhymes for as long as children have played.
    Getting all Victor Meldrew about one referring to Covid 19 is nothing more than faux outrage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,244 ✭✭✭joeguevara


    Yet again, the only official advice in this country comes from the HSE.

    Yet again with the talking down to people, follow the official advice and if you dont like what I'm saying take it up with the hse because it's all on their guidelines. Maybe you should ask them to change it.

    While the poster may have expressed it in a slightly better way, there is merit. From what I have found is that everything, even from experts is conflicting. Take ibuprofen, HSE website says it’s safe, French equivalent says different. WHO is reserving judgment so it’s very confusing. Relying solely on one source also is difficult. I’m sure people in U.K. relied on advice from their countries medical experts.

    I think it is best to be as vigilant as possible. Distancing as much as you can. If feasible self isolate with family. No non essential going out. It’s easier for some than others. I can and am grateful.

    Masks etc are not a priority for me but if I was in public it would be different. I am keeping myself occupied and trying to distract as much as possible.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86 ✭✭SnrInfant


    martin101 wrote: »
    Didn't call the kids idiots. I said acting the maggot. Since when is that so bad? And yeah I stand by what I say their parents are idiots for letting them out. Don't be so offended so easy. Now is not the time to be a snowflake

    Totally the parents to blame here, I have two boys and I haven't let them mix with anyone, including their elderly granny, which is breaking their hearts.
    They totally understand though.
    Some Parents are complete ****ing idiots!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    And we can now say the situation in Ireland is fully in hand as posters squabble over the more burning issue of the origins of a nursery rhyme! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 634 ✭✭✭TheAsYLuMkeY


    signostic wrote: »
    Filling stations could be a way of spreading the virus, if you are filling up your car please use rubber gloves, every filling station should have them available to customers.

    Ive been ding this for two weeks now, got some very odd looks two weeks ago.
    sky news - Italian army are being called in to enforce the lockdown.

    Should be done here ASAP
    tromtipp wrote: »
    the ring a roses plague thing is very fake history


    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/ring-around-rosie/


    I'd love to think little scrotes playing Covid19 games was too . . .

    My mother told me this when i was a child, many decades ago at this stage i hate to admit.

    I know who i will believe


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 445 ✭✭iwillyeah1234


    Sky news report from Bergano:

    https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-they-call-it-the-apocalypse-inside-italys-hardest-hit-hospital-11960597

    "And for the record, it is NOT like flu, it is more often than not chronic pneumonia and it is killing hundreds here each day.

    The head of emergency care, Dr Roberto Cosentini, says they have never seen anything like it, and he and his staff are warning other countries, especially the UK, that they will see it soon.

    "It's a very severe pneumonia, and so it's a massive strain for every health system, because we see every day 50 to 60 patients who come to our emergency department with pneumonia, and most of them are so severe they need very high volumes of oxygen."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,765 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    You're just looking at from the angle of getting it. We're talking about spreading it.

    I'm about to sneeze at you from a metre away. You have a choice between me wearing a mask or not wearing a mask. Which do you pick and why?

    As i said in my other posts you should only wear a mask if you have it.

    You should wear the mask if you're infected as your sneeze will spread more.

    Me wearing a mask in your example would not stop it going to other surfaces such as head, clothes etc.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭Hobgoblin11


    Bannasidhe wrote: »
    Yes, all the way back to the 14th century children learned it.
    Was it a dangerous disgrace then?

    it is when they are tagging at risk adults outside or pharmacies during the actual event as the story was told by me on here , shameful dangerous disgrace

    Dundalk, Co. Louth



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