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CoVid-19 Part IX - 785 cases ROI (3 deaths) 108 in NI (1 death) (20 March) *Read OP*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,591 ✭✭✭gabeeg


    wakka12 wrote: »
    Iran , 1200 new cases and 150 deaths.
    About 3 weeks straight now Iran has reported almost exactly 1100-1200 new cases every day and 95-125 deaths. Doesnt sound very legitimate, it is way too consistent.

    The only thing I'd say on this is that the virus could actually be starting to plateau naturally if it has become widespread enough.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 700 ✭✭✭kilkenny31


    Is it likely that this will be much worse for Ireland i.e. in a Per capita sense. Like will Ireland end up in the same place as Italy with the numbers etc resulting in
    Ireland being much worse effected than Italy or the UK


    Or

    Will our population density and the fact that our population is much less than those nations play a part in keeping the numbers much lower.

    Like say 100,000 people in Ireland get it vs 100,000 people in the UK get it its reasonable to say that if that happens Ireland done a much worse job at controlling it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,396 ✭✭✭ZX7R


    Had to take a short walk into my local Tescos here in Sligo and it is definitely noticeable how people are trying to keep a reasonable distance from each other. The town itself was eerily quiet with almost everything shut.

    The majority of people up here have definitely gotten the message imo.What good it will ultimately do is another thing. I'm pretty much of the opinion that there is no stopping this.

    The rise in numbers yesterday definitely has made a change to people's thinking


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭Cork Boy 53


    Drumpot wrote: »
    I’m still amazed at how some people are still trying to downplay this. Some people won’t take this seriously enough until it hits them personally.

    I know a person under 50 fighting for their lives in a coma right now. All the symptoms of Corona and just waiting for test result. Reading some of the lazy attitude to this is so concerning. A lot of people really don’t know what they are talking about and are not grasping how bad this is going to get.

    So in ICU but not confirmed as a positive case. Is that right?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 622 ✭✭✭sheepsh4gger


    wakka12 wrote: »
    60 community transmissions wow, okay I can see where they are coming from with the 15,000 figure then definitely. Even a couple of community transmissions implies a huge spread of undetected cases.
    I think we need to do our own map as citizens, like when people mapped all of the E-fiber cabinets on this forum before Eircom put up a public website.


    It would be useful to know which neighborhoods to avoid. So if there's a family say in Cherrywood then they probably went to X Tesco/Lidl.
    The government probably doesn't want to do it because it affects business so the oligarchs will pester them.


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,377 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Drumpot wrote: »
    Right now, it’s more important to act as if we will be like Italy so everybody is extra vigilant. That includes telling off idiots for being idiots. This whole “stop scaring people” has to stop. There is a massive threat and people need to be alerted to be on top of this.

    Sorry but non essential mental heath (I need to be out) things need to be avoided. We are such a pampered society all we have to do is stay the f**k home. You can see people in this thread justifying things they don’t need to do but want to do. Why are they waiting until the authority’s force us to do what they won’t do? We know what’s probably coming (much stricter lockdown rules), why do people think it’s grand to go about their day relatively unconcerned until this is forced on us?
    Because D too many people are morons too much of the time.

    And yep you're dead right we are extremely pampered. Your average person today in Europe lives in comfort, health and plenty that kings from a couple of centuries ago would be astounded at. The ways to amuse oneself at home today would be fantasy land to someone from the 1950's, Hell the 1980's.

    And that is part of the problem. We're so used to such plenty that even the slightest hint of restricting that has so many flipping the hell out. Never mind that in no lockdown anywhere, no matter how strong have people been starving or needing to wipe their pampered arses with a rag on a stick.

    So yeah we need to sack the fuck up. Play a tune on the world's smallest violin because your Netflix is buffering a bit slowly today, but don't hoard, stay indoors where possible and keep your bloody distance, wash your hands and if you have a mask or a scarf in a pinch, wear it.

    Sack the fuck up, or you'll really have reason to be whinging if and when this bloody virus hits close to home.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,349 ✭✭✭Wombatman




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 253 ✭✭TopOfTheHill


    With Cork not far behind.

    Cork City vs Cork County
    Dublin City vs County

    I think results need to be more fine-grained for people to take self-distancing more seriously. Once its in the local area, and close to home, action will happen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    gabeeg wrote: »
    The only thing I'd say on this is that the virus could actually be starting to plateau naturally if it has become widespread enough.

    Yes definitely could be hitting a plateau by this point, but it means then that earlier figures at the every least are not genuine


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 634 ✭✭✭TheAsYLuMkeY


    They didn't get rich giving money away.

    It was a Cree Indians that this saying is accredited to,

    "Only when the last tree has died, the last river has been poisoned, and the last fish has been caught, only then will we realise money cannot be eaten"


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,159 ✭✭✭PEACEBROTHER


    Wombatman wrote: »

    I’ve no source only local knowledge that 1st confirmed case in that factory - approx 50 others sent home to self isolate


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 207 ✭✭jamesf85


    wakka12 wrote: »
    60 community transmissions wow, okay I can see where they are coming from with the 15,000 figure then definitely. Even a couple of community transmissions implies a huge spread of undetected cases.

    This is more contagious than the flu. There's thousands infected in Ireland. We're likely already past the 15,000 stage. That's not a reason to panic.

    Just treat it like everyone is infected and we'll be ok. If even half the population manage to stop the spread then we'll be fine. Let's keep our most vulnerable from all getting it at once.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,419 ✭✭✭joeguevara


    I think we need to do our own map as citizens, like when people mapped all of the E-fiber cabinets on this forum before Eircom put up a public website.


    It would be useful to know which neighborhoods to avoid. So if there's a family say in Cherrywood then they probably went to X Tesco/Lidl.
    The government probably doesn't want to do it because it affects business so the oligarchs will pester them.

    Why do you need to know what neighbourhoods to avoid based on results that are probably out of date. Also, it could lead to vigilantes who could attack people or demand they leave.

    Don’t think anyone is safe and avoid contact.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,614 ✭✭✭WrenBoy


    A great opportunity for Apple and the other tech giants who availed of our whole not asking for tax shtick to help out a bit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,032 ✭✭✭Canonfan


    I really think everybody should help those frontline staff and volunteers as a thank you for working so tirelessly during this crisis. Even a free coffee or sandwich etc, hopefully we can see more of these from the likes of big chain fast food companies.


    Good to see Chinese firm Huawei will send personal protective equipment and technological equipment to Ireland, link


    Also the Chinese community here in Ireland already started the fundraiser for those who protect us, link


    Covid-19 knows no borders, it knows no nationality, and we are all in this together


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭Cork Boy 53


    Wombatman wrote: »

    This seems to be good news in itself but where are these extra ventilators going to be used? Here in Ireland or be exported?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,556 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    Wibbs wrote: »
    Because D too many people are morons too much of the time.

    And yep you're dead right we are extremely pampered. Your average person today in Europe lives in comfort, health and plenty that kings from a couple of centuries ago would be astounded at. The ways to amuse oneself at home today would be fantasy land to someone from the 1950's, Hell the 1980's.

    And that is part of the problem. We're so used to such plenty that even the slightest hint of restricting that has so many flipping the hell out. Never mind that in no lockdown anywhere, no matter how strong have people been starving or needing to wipe their pampered arses with a rag on a stick.

    So yeah we need to sack the fuck up. Play a tune on the world's smallest violin because your Netflix is buffering a bit slowly today, but don't hoard, stay indoors where possible and keep your bloody distance, wash your hands and if you have a mask or a scarf in a pinch, wear it.

    Sack the fuck up, or you'll really have reason to be whinging if and when this bloody virus hits close to home.

    Exactly were not been asked to go to war on fight on the Eastern front.

    You're just been asked to stay at home.

    Backs up what I always thought.

    We are spoiled as a nation.

    Pampered to for too long by over generous welfare systems etc.

    Before this people were calling Ireland a kip and a terrible place to live

    Absolute nonsense.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,226 ✭✭✭✭jmayo


    Absolutely, I work a back office role in the PS too and i would take a month or so unpaid leave also. Ideally I could work from home but that is not being entertained at all at the minute. Not enough equipment I have been told.

    A lot of people work in my building. It is only a matter of time before someone is infected and the whole place will close.

    I subscribe to the idea that offices should have been last week cut to minimum staff so people not on top of each other.
    Fair enough they offer skeleton services, but at least they are functioning to some degree.

    Then if those people get sick, a deep clean is done and health staff replace them.

    That way we don't have mass contaminations.
    1903 new cases in Spain today, 171 new deaths , and it's only noon.

    Lockdown not working

    FFS a lockdown doesn't mean an immediate drop in numbers, it takes weeks to work through the numbers already infected.
    A lockdown stops it getting worse in the long term.
    What if you live in a 1 bed apartment with no garden? Can a couple of people survive long on windowsill produce? If only we had trained people who could work some sort of land to produce food.

    Hell if Eamon and his fellow thinkers had their way half of Ireland would be under forest with wolves roaming around and we would importing all our food from half way across the world. :rolleyes:

    I am not allowed discuss …



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,564 ✭✭✭✭whiskeyman


    Wombatman wrote: »

    Sounds great, but no guarantee many will end back in Irish hospitals.
    No doubt Trump or someone else trying to get them.

    Also, as someone points out - if a case is found in these factories, we're in deep trouble.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 634 ✭✭✭TheAsYLuMkeY


    Wibbs wrote: »
    Because D too many people are morons too much of the time.

    And yep you're dead right we are extremely pampered. Your average person today in Europe lives in comfort, health and plenty that kings from a couple of centuries ago would be astounded at. The ways to amuse oneself at home today would be fantasy land to someone from the 1950's, Hell the 1980's.

    And that is part of the problem. We're so used to such plenty that even the slightest hint of restricting that has so many flipping the hell out. Never mind that in no lockdown anywhere, no matter how strong have people been starving or needing to wipe their pampered arses with a rag on a stick.

    So yeah we need to sack the fuck up. Play a tune on the world's smallest violin because your Netflix is buffering a bit slowly today, but don't hoard, stay indoors where possible and keep your bloody distance, wash your hands and if you have a mask or a scarf in a pinch, wear it.

    Sack the fuck up, or you'll really have reason to be whinging if and when this bloody virus hits close to home.


    Alas, no matter how many times you say this, and with the vigour you have said it, people still are ****ing morons.

    I have been telling people who work in offices close to me for two weeks to prepare for this, thats it going to escalate dramatically and we will have to all modify our lifestyles.

    Today one of the women asked if she would be able to get a hairdressers open, i said surely you could get through the next three months without it and dye your hair at home, her reply.......

    'I suppose'


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,449 ✭✭✭Call Me Jimmy


    Woodsie1 wrote: »
    Whats the point of those sad pics?
    Do you think we all need to be reminded of the seriousness?
    Seems like more doomsday porn.
    Cop yourself on,no need to go all Daily Mail on the thread!!

    What the actual ****?

    If you don't want to read or hear about what's happening don't follow the news.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 970 ✭✭✭bob mcbob


    Really interesting article from the Guardian about a GP (in Edinburgh) and their view / experience of Covid-19.

    It is a diary of the first mention on the virus until now.

    The most interesting point for me was on March 6th

    A GP friend in Fife told me that she was convinced the disease was already widespread among her own patients – she was seeing more viral breathlessness than usual, but none from people who had travelled to the “at risk” areas, and none who fulfilled the criteria for testing


    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/20/were-clearing-the-decks-a-gp-on-watching-the-coronavirus-pandemic-unfold


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 220 ✭✭Lyan


    This seems to be good news in itself but where are these extra ventilators going to be used? Here in Ireland or be exported?

    Is this sort of stuff low-key race preference? Is the rest of the world not deserving?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,621 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    Wombatman wrote: »

    Great to see and these workers are heroes in my eyes. They should be supported any way we can help.

    Its time for us to identify critical workers who need to be protected and supported. I was just reading a story about a nurse in the UK who came off a 48 hour shift only to find shops stripped bare and she was unable to buy essentials.

    The story is here.

    https://www.msn.com/en-ie/news/coronavirus/critical-care-nurse-breaks-down-in-tears-over-empty-shelves-as-she-tells-stockpilers-just-stop-it/ar-BB11sdCg?ocid=spartanntp

    We need to set aside a day or two per week for critical workers or their spouses to be able to shop.

    As for the panic buyers, you have only my contempt.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,482 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    jmayo wrote: »
    Hell if Eamon and his fellow thinkers had their way half of Ireland would be under forest with wolves roaming around and we would importing all our food from half way across the world. :rolleyes:

    He said if parts of Ireland were rewilded that maybe in 50 years wolves could be reintroduced, read the context. We already do import loads of food, and export most of what we produce!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 435 ✭✭MipMap


    BluePlanet wrote: »
    Pet dogs should be taken to a converted stadium for kenneling.




    What is the problem with pet Dog?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 207 ✭✭jamesf85


    Drumpot wrote: »

    I know a person under 50 fighting for their lives in a coma right now. All the symptoms of Corona and just waiting for test result. Reading some of the lazy attitude to this is so concerning. A lot of people really don’t know what they are talking about and are not grasping how bad this is going to get.

    Has this person any underlying conditions? Were they perfectly fine and then contracted the virus and deteriorated rapidly?

    From everything I've read this virus seems to mainly affect those with underlying conditions. I think 3 people with no underlying issues have died this week in Italy. That's 1 out of over 1,000.

    Any death is tragic, but that's cause for optimism, but it also means we need to take care of those who's immune systems may not take care of them. We all know and love people who are in this risk category.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,250 ✭✭✭Seamai


    My hair grows really fast, get it cut every 4 weeks, had been shaving my head for 25 but decided to let it grow back a few years ago. Might shave it all off again as I wouldn't go near a barber at the moment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,482 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    I wonder if unkempt longer hair will come back in fashion


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭Cork Boy 53


    So it seems like that there are no plans for any implementation of a Italy/Spain style lockdown in the near future. We are in deep ****e.


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