CoVid-19 Part IX - 785 cases ROI (3 deaths) 108 in NI (1 death) (20 March) Read OP

ArchXStanton · 20-03-2020 12:18PM

sheepsh4gger wrote: »

The HSE really dropped the ball on this one.

What? Are you not happy with North, East, South and west?

Gods Gift · 20-03-2020 12:19PM

There are something like 20 billionaires in Ireland. If ever there was a time to put their hands in their pockets or use their contacts to help front line staff, it’ll be over the coming weeks. Need all the help they can get.

Cork Boy 53 · 20-03-2020 12:19PM

sheepsh4gger wrote: »

Can we not get a map of where the disease is spreading?
In South Korea they had an app where you could see.
Something like the attached.

My guess:
- hospitals
- airports
- ports
- train stations

Most likely Dublin is ground 0

With Cork not far behind.

Mervyn Skidmore · 20-03-2020 12:19PM

Gods Gift wrote: »

There are something like 20 billionaires in Ireland. If ever there was a time to put their hands in their pockets or use their contacts to help front line staff, it’ll be over the coming weeks. Need all the help they can get.

They didn't get rich giving money away.

wakka12 · 20-03-2020 12:20PM

Iran , 1200 new cases and 150 deaths.
About 3 weeks straight now Iran has reported almost exactly 1100-1200 new cases every day and 95-125 deaths. Doesnt sound very legitimate, it is way too consistent.

pH · 20-03-2020 12:20PM

Mr.S wrote: »

How does that work in France / Italy / Spain - you are allowed out to go shopping, if stopped, can you not just say you are going shopping?

My understanding is that it's something like this. Before you go out you must print an official travel document which has:

Origin and departure time
Destination and expected arrival time
Time returning to origin
(and reason for travel)

If you are 'apprehended' by the police you must have one of these on you (and only one), and the time and place of the contact with police must make sense in the overall journey, for instance the direction of travel must make sense, if you're coming home you should have shopping and a correct receipt.

It's not perfect and certainly could be 'gamed' but better than nothing.

So yes you could print one off saying you where going to ALDI and nip over to your mates house, but on the way back you're going to need a bag of shopping and a receipt if you get stopped.

hubiedubie · 20-03-2020 12:21PM

tobefrank321 wrote: »

There definitely needs to be better reporting and exact locations of clusters. This helps people conduct their own contact tracing which will be crucial going forward.

AllGunsBlazing · 20-03-2020 12:21PM

Had to take a short walk into my local Tescos here in Sligo and it is definitely noticeable how people are trying to keep a reasonable distance from each other. The town itself was eerily quiet with almost everything shut.

The majority of people up here have definitely gotten the message imo.What good it will ultimately do is another thing. I'm pretty much of the opinion that there is no stopping this.

dublin99 · 20-03-2020 12:21PM

carolmon wrote: »

I really hope we retain some of these practices when this is all over.
I always take my outside shoes off the minute I get home... when I see people spitting on the street and think of all the muck and dog crap I'm dragging inside it seems the best thing to do.
attitudes

Can't agree more. Imagine the dirt and germs (like e-coli) you pick up from walking outside!
We change into indoor shoes/slippers at the door.
In Asia, apartment buildings often provide a floor mat soaked with antiseptic solution which you walk on as you enter the building, before entering the lift.
I remember in local hotels in Japan with tatami floor, you take off shoes as soon as you enter, and the staff cleans the outside and the wheels of your suitcase before taking them to your room.

wakka12 · 20-03-2020 12:22PM

hubiedubie wrote: »

60 community transmissions wow, okay I can see where they are coming from with the 15,000 figure then definitely. Even a couple of community transmissions implies a huge spread of undetected cases.

Fr_Dougal · 20-03-2020 12:24PM

As time goes by, those earlier Chinese figures are looking a little dubious.

BluePlanet · 20-03-2020 12:24PM

The problem with nonchalant social distancing and "casual lockdown", is that it's going to lengthen the time these measures need to be in effect.

If everybody was truly locked down, and really it should be coordinated around the EU, we could probably get on top of this within 14 days.

People should be entirely house bound.
Army, Police and Health Care workers should deliver daily rations and meds.
Pet dogs should be taken to a converted stadium for kenneling.

Italy is too casual and so is Spain.
We are witnessing the results in real time.

gabeeg · 20-03-2020 12:25PM

wakka12 wrote: »

Iran , 1200 new cases and 150 deaths.
About 3 weeks straight now Iran has reported almost exactly 1100-1200 new cases every day and 95-125 deaths. Doesnt sound very legitimate, it is way too consistent.

The only thing I'd say on this is that the virus could actually be starting to plateau naturally if it has become widespread enough.

kilkenny31 · 20-03-2020 12:25PM

Is it likely that this will be much worse for Ireland i.e. in a Per capita sense. Like will Ireland end up in the same place as Italy with the numbers etc resulting in
Ireland being much worse effected than Italy or the UK

Or

Will our population density and the fact that our population is much less than those nations play a part in keeping the numbers much lower.

Like say 100,000 people in Ireland get it vs 100,000 people in the UK get it its reasonable to say that if that happens Ireland done a much worse job at controlling it

ZX7R · 20-03-2020 12:26PM

AllGunsBlazing wrote: »

Had to take a short walk into my local Tescos here in Sligo and it is definitely noticeable how people are trying to keep a reasonable distance from each other. The town itself was eerily quiet with almost everything shut.

The majority of people up here have definitely gotten the message imo.What good it will ultimately do is another thing. I'm pretty much of the opinion that there is no stopping this.

The rise in numbers yesterday definitely has made a change to people's thinking

Cork Boy 53 · 20-03-2020 12:26PM

Drumpot wrote: »

I’m still amazed at how some people are still trying to downplay this. Some people won’t take this seriously enough until it hits them personally.

I know a person under 50 fighting for their lives in a coma right now. All the symptoms of Corona and just waiting for test result. Reading some of the lazy attitude to this is so concerning. A lot of people really don’t know what they are talking about and are not grasping how bad this is going to get.

So in ICU but not confirmed as a positive case. Is that right?

sheepsh4gger · 20-03-2020 12:27PM

wakka12 wrote: »

60 community transmissions wow, okay I can see where they are coming from with the 15,000 figure then definitely. Even a couple of community transmissions implies a huge spread of undetected cases.

I think we need to do our own map as citizens, like when people mapped all of the E-fiber cabinets on this forum before Eircom put up a public website.

It would be useful to know which neighborhoods to avoid. So if there's a family say in Cherrywood then they probably went to X Tesco/Lidl.
The government probably doesn't want to do it because it affects business so the oligarchs will pester them.

Wibbs · 20-03-2020 12:28PM

Drumpot wrote: »

Right now, it’s more important to act as if we will be like Italy so everybody is extra vigilant. That includes telling off idiots for being idiots. This whole “stop scaring people” has to stop. There is a massive threat and people need to be alerted to be on top of this.

Sorry but non essential mental heath (I need to be out) things need to be avoided. We are such a pampered society all we have to do is stay the f**k home. You can see people in this thread justifying things they don’t need to do but want to do. Why are they waiting until the authority’s force us to do what they won’t do? We know what’s probably coming (much stricter lockdown rules), why do people think it’s grand to go about their day relatively unconcerned until this is forced on us?

Because D too many people are morons too much of the time.

And yep you're dead right we are extremely pampered. Your average person today in Europe lives in comfort, health and plenty that kings from a couple of centuries ago would be astounded at. The ways to amuse oneself at home today would be fantasy land to someone from the 1950's, Hell the 1980's.

And that is part of the problem. We're so used to such plenty that even the slightest hint of restricting that has so many flipping the hell out. Never mind that in no lockdown anywhere, no matter how strong have people been starving or needing to wipe their pampered arses with a rag on a stick.

So yeah we need to sack the fuck up. Play a tune on the world's smallest violin because your Netflix is buffering a bit slowly today, but don't hoard, stay indoors where possible and keep your bloody distance, wash your hands and if you have a mask or a scarf in a pinch, wear it.

Sack the fuck up, or you'll really have reason to be whinging if and when this bloody virus hits close to home.

Wombatman · 20-03-2020 12:28PM

Galway plant making ventilators gone to 24/7 shifts.

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/health-pharma/medtronic-to-double-number-of-staff-making-ventilators-in-ireland-1.4207316

TopOfTheHill · 20-03-2020 12:30PM

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

With Cork not far behind.

Cork City vs Cork County
Dublin City vs County

I think results need to be more fine-grained for people to take self-distancing more seriously. Once its in the local area, and close to home, action will happen.

wakka12 · 20-03-2020 12:30PM

gabeeg wrote: »

The only thing I'd say on this is that the virus could actually be starting to plateau naturally if it has become widespread enough.

Yes definitely could be hitting a plateau by this point, but it means then that earlier figures at the every least are not genuine

TheAsYLuMkeY · 20-03-2020 12:31PM

Mervyn Skidmore wrote: »

They didn't get rich giving money away.

It was a Cree Indians that this saying is accredited to,

"Only when the last tree has died, the last river has been poisoned, and the last fish has been caught, only then will we realise money cannot be eaten"

PEACEBROTHER · 20-03-2020 12:32PM

Wombatman wrote: »

Galway plant making ventilators gone to 24/7 shifts.

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/health-pharma/medtronic-to-double-number-of-staff-making-ventilators-in-ireland-1.4207316

I’ve no source only local knowledge that 1st confirmed case in that factory - approx 50 others sent home to self isolate

jamesf85 · 20-03-2020 12:34PM

wakka12 wrote: »

60 community transmissions wow, okay I can see where they are coming from with the 15,000 figure then definitely. Even a couple of community transmissions implies a huge spread of undetected cases.

This is more contagious than the flu. There's thousands infected in Ireland. We're likely already past the 15,000 stage. That's not a reason to panic.

Just treat it like everyone is infected and we'll be ok. If even half the population manage to stop the spread then we'll be fine. Let's keep our most vulnerable from all getting it at once.

joeguevara · 20-03-2020 12:34PM

sheepsh4gger wrote: »

I think we need to do our own map as citizens, like when people mapped all of the E-fiber cabinets on this forum before Eircom put up a public website.

It would be useful to know which neighborhoods to avoid. So if there's a family say in Cherrywood then they probably went to X Tesco/Lidl.
The government probably doesn't want to do it because it affects business so the oligarchs will pester them.

Why do you need to know what neighbourhoods to avoid based on results that are probably out of date. Also, it could lead to vigilantes who could attack people or demand they leave.

Don’t think anyone is safe and avoid contact.

WrenBoy · 20-03-2020 12:34PM

A great opportunity for Apple and the other tech giants who availed of our whole not asking for tax shtick to help out a bit.

Canonfan · 20-03-2020 12:35PM

I really think everybody should help those frontline staff and volunteers as a thank you for working so tirelessly during this crisis. Even a free coffee or sandwich etc, hopefully we can see more of these from the likes of big chain fast food companies.

Good to see Chinese firm Huawei will send personal protective equipment and technological equipment to Ireland, link

Also the Chinese community here in Ireland already started the fundraiser for those who protect us, link

Covid-19 knows no borders, it knows no nationality, and we are all in this together

Cork Boy 53 · 20-03-2020 12:35PM

Wombatman wrote: »

Galway plant making ventilators gone to 24/7 shifts.

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/health-pharma/medtronic-to-double-number-of-staff-making-ventilators-in-ireland-1.4207316

This seems to be good news in itself but where are these extra ventilators going to be used? Here in Ireland or be exported?

Jinglejangle69 · 20-03-2020 12:35PM

Wibbs wrote: »

Because D too many people are morons too much of the time.

And yep you're dead right we are extremely pampered. Your average person today in Europe lives in comfort, health and plenty that kings from a couple of centuries ago would be astounded at. The ways to amuse oneself at home today would be fantasy land to someone from the 1950's, Hell the 1980's.

And that is part of the problem. We're so used to such plenty that even the slightest hint of restricting that has so many flipping the hell out. Never mind that in no lockdown anywhere, no matter how strong have people been starving or needing to wipe their pampered arses with a rag on a stick.

So yeah we need to sack the fuck up. Play a tune on the world's smallest violin because your Netflix is buffering a bit slowly today, but don't hoard, stay indoors where possible and keep your bloody distance, wash your hands and if you have a mask or a scarf in a pinch, wear it.

Sack the fuck up, or you'll really have reason to be whinging if and when this bloody virus hits close to home.

Exactly were not been asked to go to war on fight on the Eastern front.

You're just been asked to stay at home.

Backs up what I always thought.

We are spoiled as a nation.

Pampered to for too long by over generous welfare systems etc.

Before this people were calling Ireland a kip and a terrible place to live

Absolute nonsense.

jmayo · 20-03-2020 12:36PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Absolutely, I work a back office role in the PS too and i would take a month or so unpaid leave also. Ideally I could work from home but that is not being entertained at all at the minute. Not enough equipment I have been told.

A lot of people work in my building. It is only a matter of time before someone is infected and the whole place will close.

I subscribe to the idea that offices should have been last week cut to minimum staff so people not on top of each other.
Fair enough they offer skeleton services, but at least they are functioning to some degree.

Then if those people get sick, a deep clean is done and health staff replace them.

That way we don't have mass contaminations.

Hector Savage wrote: »

1903 new cases in Spain today, 171 new deaths , and it's only noon.

Lockdown not working

FFS a lockdown doesn't mean an immediate drop in numbers, it takes weeks to work through the numbers already infected.
A lockdown stops it getting worse in the long term.

Mervyn Skidmore wrote: »

What if you live in a 1 bed apartment with no garden? Can a couple of people survive long on windowsill produce? If only we had trained people who could work some sort of land to produce food.

Hell if Eamon and his fellow thinkers had their way half of Ireland would be under forest with wolves roaming around and we would importing all our food from half way across the world. :rolleyes:

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